| 2024-11-15 00:03:51 +0100 | <jackdk> | carbolymer: I don't understand your suggestion. The typeclass I want to type-family-ify exists and I cannot change it (concrete example: `GHC.Records.HasField`), but I want a type family that can select the field type. This example fails with "The RHS of an associated type declaration mentions out-of-scope variable ‘z’ All such variables must be bound on the LHS" https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4aygJmq9/MakeATypeFamily.hs |
| 2024-11-15 00:06:26 +0100 | rvalue- | (~rvalue@user/rvalue) rvalue |
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| 2024-11-15 00:19:05 +0100 | <carbolymer> | jackdk: ah, you can't modify the original class - that' s though |
| 2024-11-15 00:20:06 +0100 | <carbolymer> | s/though/tough |
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| 2024-11-15 00:26:44 +0100 | <carbolymer> | jackdk: maybe something in this direction https://paste.tomsmeding.com/Og2LnIpN ? |
| 2024-11-15 00:29:03 +0100 | <jackdk> | The problem is I didn't know `a` at the time. (I was trying to write some servant-flavoured stuff, and wanted to provide an analogue to `ToServantApi` that extracted a single field). So I don't actually know the final type (because there are other TFs involved) but I know GHC does |
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| 2024-11-15 00:30:32 +0100 | <carbolymer> | ah |
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| 2024-11-15 00:48:36 +0100 | <sm> | @where+ wiwik https://gotchamana.github.io/wiwinwlh What I Wish I Knew When Learning Haskell, Stephen Diehl |
| 2024-11-15 00:48:37 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Good to know. |
| 2024-11-15 00:48:39 +0100 | <sm> | found! |
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| 2024-11-15 02:47:08 +0100 | <zero> | funny how haskell classes inherit the same problem as oop inheritence |
| 2024-11-15 02:47:27 +0100 | <zero> | pun intended i guess |
| 2024-11-15 02:51:19 +0100 | <Axman6> | Multiple (problem) inheritance |
| 2024-11-15 02:52:48 +0100 | <monochrom> | What is the problem? |
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| 2024-11-15 03:19:08 +0100 | <Axman6> | it makes sorting out the will much more difficult |
| 2024-11-15 03:19:27 +0100 | <monochrom> | haha |
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| 2024-11-15 03:29:14 +0100 | <EvanR> | one problem with oop inheritance, usually, is joe schmoe want's his class to inherit from multiple other classes simultaneously. It's a problem either because you aren't allowed to do it, or because you are allowed to do it (e.g. in python) |
| 2024-11-15 03:29:24 +0100 | <EvanR> | not sure how that translates to haskell |
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| 2024-11-15 04:04:11 +0100 | <sm> | I guess: long chains of dependency make the whole system more brittle ? |
| 2024-11-15 04:05:02 +0100 | <sm> | I don't know about multiple inheritance either but suspect that's the root problem |
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| 2024-11-15 04:07:15 +0100 | <sm> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_inheritance#The_diamond_problem |
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| 2024-11-15 04:48:11 +0100 | <EvanR> | in "type classes vs the world" he shows a slide with a diamond dependency, and basically type classes, nothing bad happens |
| 2024-11-15 04:48:19 +0100 | <EvanR> | s/basically/because/ |
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| 2024-11-15 04:49:14 +0100 | <EvanR> | because there's only ever zero or one instances for a given type |
| 2024-11-15 04:49:39 +0100 | <EvanR> | so if you arrive at a dependency along different routes it's the same instance |
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| 2024-11-15 06:08:38 +0100 | <monochrom> | Multiple implementation inheritance is the problem (even the OO people already know), but it doesn't translate to Haskell. Multiple interface inheritance is well-known to be just fine. |
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| 2024-11-15 06:09:36 +0100 | <monochrom> | OTOH category theory offers a safe kind of diamond inheritance. It's called push out. |
| 2024-11-15 06:09:59 +0100 | <monochrom> | Just that you can't do push outs in C++, that's all. :) |
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| 2024-11-15 06:13:36 +0100 | <EvanR> | pushout = multiple inheritance. Got it. And jquery is a monad! |
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| 2024-11-15 08:48:13 +0100 | guy | (~guy@188.210.213.53) |
| 2024-11-15 08:48:21 +0100 | <guy> | HELP HELP iv been up all night and have discovered a UFO! |
| 2024-11-15 08:48:27 +0100 | <guy> | its unidentified! |
| 2024-11-15 08:48:33 +0100 | <guy> | its not even a monad! |
| 2024-11-15 08:48:37 +0100 | <guy> | a net is this |
| 2024-11-15 08:49:19 +0100 | <guy> | (m (m a),m a) <-> (m (m a),m a) |
| 2024-11-15 08:49:28 +0100 | <guy> | its like half a monad or something? |
| 2024-11-15 08:49:59 +0100 | <guy> | instead of being contained inside itself (nets as neurons), it can have this extended as itself (this becomes layers) |
| 2024-11-15 08:50:16 +0100 | <guy> | instead of going deep at the contents, you put them in layers and its not a recursion |
| 2024-11-15 08:50:46 +0100 | <guy> | if i had it kind of deep at the neurons anyway, i could always just not do that and add extra layers |
| 2024-11-15 08:51:04 +0100 | <guy> | but i can kind of make a tradeoff and have both worlds, leading to the type above |
| 2024-11-15 08:51:43 +0100 | <guy> | like, not all of the inner (m a) in m (m a) extend the ,m a) its paried with |
| 2024-11-15 08:52:01 +0100 | <guy> | i can like, half do the monad collapse thing |
| 2024-11-15 08:52:03 +0100 | <guy> | !!! |
| 2024-11-15 08:52:05 +0100 | <guy> | night x |
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| 2024-11-15 14:31:45 +0100 | <Rembane> | I've been searching Google, Hoogle and asked various dubious AIs and I can't find the answer to the question: Is there a lens version of mapMaybe? If so, what's the name of it? |
| 2024-11-15 14:33:29 +0100 | <probie> | :t mapMaybe |
| 2024-11-15 14:33:30 +0100 | <lambdabot> | (a -> Maybe b) -> [a] -> [b] |
| 2024-11-15 14:36:19 +0100 | <probie> | So you're looking for something like `(some constraints here) => (a -> f (Maybe b)) -> t a -> f (t b)`? |
| 2024-11-15 14:38:07 +0100 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 14:39:44 +0100 | <Rembane> | Yeah, that looks reasonable |
| 2024-11-15 14:40:53 +0100 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) siracusa |
| 2024-11-15 14:40:54 +0100 | <Leary> | Rembane: `wither`? |
| 2024-11-15 14:41:40 +0100 | <Rembane> | Leary: Fancy! Thank you! |
| 2024-11-15 14:42:06 +0100 | ethantwardy | (user@user/ethantwardy) (Quit: WeeChat 4.3.2) |
| 2024-11-15 14:43:28 +0100 | ethantwardy | (user@user/ethantwardy) ethantwardy |
| 2024-11-15 14:44:07 +0100 | <c_wraith> | Rembane: if you specifically are looking for compatibility with lens, I didn't like the way the witherable package does it. Or other ways I've seen suggested to do it. So I made https://hackage.haskell.org/package/lens-witherable |
| 2024-11-15 14:44:39 +0100 | <Rembane> | c_wraith: Even better. Yes, compatibility is important to me. |
| 2024-11-15 14:47:25 +0100 | hellwolf | (~user@2001:1530:70:545:5239:a298:1329:4b) hellwolf |
| 2024-11-15 14:48:51 +0100 | <Hecate> | 'sup hellwolf :) |
| 2024-11-15 14:49:46 +0100 | <hellwolf> | :) GM Hecate. I couldn't configure my rcirc in emacs for reconnecting after computer shutting down... |
| 2024-11-15 14:55:18 +0100 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 14:55:41 +0100 | <Hecate> | :) |
| 2024-11-15 14:56:17 +0100 | <hellwolf> | sorry, after computer coming back from sleep. I didn't make sense. |
| 2024-11-15 14:56:46 +0100 | <hellwolf> | anyways, been a good haskell day? |
| 2024-11-15 14:57:34 +0100 | <Hecate> | yeah, nothing to complain about on this front |
| 2024-11-15 14:57:51 +0100 | <Hecate> | I'm thinking of using one of my FreeBSD servers in the near future as a development macine |
| 2024-11-15 14:57:54 +0100 | <Hecate> | *machine |
| 2024-11-15 14:59:44 +0100 | <hellwolf> | any particular reason? |
| 2024-11-15 15:00:59 +0100 | <Hecate> | 64GB of RAM and a powerful CPU |
| 2024-11-15 15:01:09 +0100 | <Hecate> | also a good thing to use FreeBSD |
| 2024-11-15 15:01:20 +0100 | <hellwolf> | Oh? |
| 2024-11-15 15:02:10 +0100 | aforemny | (~aforemny@2001:9e8:6cc5:1900:266e:896c:b9aa:a2eb) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 15:04:40 +0100 | <Hecate> | hellwolf: yeah, I'll be able to notice areas where the tools lack support for it |
| 2024-11-15 15:05:05 +0100 | <hellwolf> | oh, as a means to dogfood it. kudos to that. |
| 2024-11-15 15:05:11 +0100 | ystael | (~ystael@user/ystael) ystael |
| 2024-11-15 15:07:33 +0100 | <Hecate> | yus |
| 2024-11-15 15:08:04 +0100 | <hellwolf> | More people should do that. Build and use it youself first. |
| 2024-11-15 15:08:23 +0100 | <hellwolf> | Dogfooding is a good culture. |
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| 2024-11-15 18:09:35 +0100 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) gehmehgeh |
| 2024-11-15 18:10:06 +0100 | alexherbo2 | (~alexherbo@103.148.22.93.rev.sfr.net) alexherbo2 |
| 2024-11-15 18:15:49 +0100 | mari-estel | (~mari-este@user/mari-estel) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 18:15:50 +0100 | kuribas | (~user@ptr-17d51ep701orqnv6ksc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be) (Quit: ERC (IRC client for Emacs 27.1)) |
| 2024-11-15 18:15:50 +0100 | <lxsameer> | have you tried the streamly library? if yes, how was your experience in general? |
| 2024-11-15 18:23:15 +0100 | yaroot | (~yaroot@2400:4052:ac0:d901:1cf4:2aff:fe51:c04c) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 18:23:19 +0100 | tomku | (~tomku@user/tomku) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 18:23:30 +0100 | yaroot | (~yaroot@2400:4052:ac0:d901:1cf4:2aff:fe51:c04c) yaroot |
| 2024-11-15 18:23:32 +0100 | tomku | (~tomku@user/tomku) tomku |
| 2024-11-15 18:28:04 +0100 | shapr | (~user@2601:19c:417e:5434:a5bf:c395:f22f:b8c) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 18:32:26 +0100 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d108-173-18-100.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
| 2024-11-15 18:37:05 +0100 | shapr | (~user@2600:4040:5c49:5600:176f:6255:d12:c742) shapr |
| 2024-11-15 18:40:19 +0100 | econo_ | (uid147250@id-147250.tinside.irccloud.com) |
| 2024-11-15 18:40:56 +0100 | <Rembane> | Is it that library that's really cool and very hard to understand? |
| 2024-11-15 18:42:08 +0100 | <Rembane> | Hm... nope, I was thinking of machines. Is this library you're thinking of lxsameer? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/streamly |
| 2024-11-15 19:00:41 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
| 2024-11-15 19:03:09 +0100 | <EvanR> | machines is nearly alien technology |
| 2024-11-15 19:05:57 +0100 | <Rembane> | Yeah, I think humanity will reach another golden age if we understand that library. |
| 2024-11-15 19:07:27 +0100 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 2024-11-15 19:08:59 +0100 | <hellwolf> | o_o |
| 2024-11-15 19:11:08 +0100 | <EvanR> | call that egyptologist guy from stargate who could read any alien text |
| 2024-11-15 19:12:10 +0100 | <Rembane> | Indeed. |
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| 2024-11-15 19:21:09 +0100 | lxsameer | (~lxsameer@Serene/lxsameer) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 19:22:36 +0100 | Square | (~Square@user/square) Square |
| 2024-11-15 19:26:21 +0100 | Square2 | (~Square4@user/square) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 19:29:42 +0100 | <dolio> | What sort of questions about it do you have? |
| 2024-11-15 19:41:34 +0100 | noctuks | (i2MhobYIr5@user/noctux) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 19:41:54 +0100 | yushyin | (vmzGIzVnEG@mail.karif.server-speed.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
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| 2024-11-15 19:55:35 +0100 | zero | zzz |
| 2024-11-15 19:57:28 +0100 | s4msung | (LBlP633nW8@user/s4msung) s4msung |
| 2024-11-15 19:57:28 +0100 | yushyin | (XM7IK4wOXA@mail.karif.server-speed.net) yushyin |
| 2024-11-15 19:57:33 +0100 | noctuks | (HxiKc5AS9I@user/noctux) noctux |
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| 2024-11-15 20:02:41 +0100 | yushyin | (aC7s4hKZiM@mail.karif.server-speed.net) yushyin |
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| 2024-11-15 20:11:51 +0100 | <EvanR> | here's one. Is it at all useful |
| 2024-11-15 20:12:16 +0100 | <EvanR> | snazzy isn't always practical, like comonads |
| 2024-11-15 20:13:05 +0100 | ubert | (~Thunderbi@178.115.41.15.wireless.dyn.drei.com) ubert |
| 2024-11-15 20:13:09 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) peterbecich |
| 2024-11-15 20:15:16 +0100 | lxsameer | (~lxsameer@Serene/lxsameer) lxsameer |
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| 2024-11-15 20:18:35 +0100 | misterfish | (~misterfis@84.53.85.146) misterfish |
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| 2024-11-15 20:24:04 +0100 | <dolio> | Well, I don't know about that. I haven't tried using the Haskell version for anything. |
| 2024-11-15 20:24:33 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 20:25:09 +0100 | Square | (~Square@user/square) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2024-11-15 20:26:00 +0100 | <dolio> | I did help write something that used a Scala analogue of the same thing written concurrently. |
| 2024-11-15 20:26:47 +0100 | <dolio> | It probably works strictly better in Haskell, if I had to guess. |
| 2024-11-15 20:28:02 +0100 | <dolio> | It doesn't seem like that's a question designed to help you understand the library, though. |
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