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| 2025-03-31 01:36:35 +0200 | <monochrom> | Is "we need to focus" a pun, given the context of lens? >:) |
| 2025-03-31 01:40:33 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-03-31 01:41:11 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> "under (from enumerateIso) (filter (even . fst)) ['a'..'z']" 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎 |
| 2025-03-31 01:42:18 +0200 | gustavo | (~gustavo@2804:18:588d:4c8:c297:170d:745e:29df) GusCtSr |
| 2025-03-31 01:42:39 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> probably a more idiomatic way to do this, but it's a start |
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| 2025-03-31 02:06:24 +0200 | ljdarj1 | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
| 2025-03-31 02:10:15 +0200 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-03-31 02:10:15 +0200 | ljdarj1 | ljdarj |
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| 2025-03-31 02:14:40 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> > ['a'..'z']^..traversed.ifiltered (const . even) |
| 2025-03-31 02:14:40 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | "acegikmoqsuwy" |
| 2025-03-31 02:15:09 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> * ['a'..'z'] ^.. traversed . ifiltered |
| 2025-03-31 02:16:21 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> neat! still indexed though |
| 2025-03-31 02:16:53 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> huh is that an issue? |
| 2025-03-31 02:17:15 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> well I'm trying to find an "Iso" form, otherwise we can just use "['a'..'z'] ^.. itraversed . indices even" |
| 2025-03-31 02:17:54 +0200 | hattckory | (~hattckory@bras-base-toroon4524w-grc-30-70-27-118-207.dsl.bell.ca) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-03-31 02:17:54 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> iso between what? |
| 2025-03-31 02:18:06 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> "iso (map snd) (zip [0..])" |
| 2025-03-31 02:18:13 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> uh "map fst" I mean |
| 2025-03-31 02:18:21 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> that is not an isomorphism |
| 2025-03-31 02:18:43 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> how so? |
| 2025-03-31 02:19:02 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> you're thinking "Iso' [a] [(Int, a)]" or so right? |
| 2025-03-31 02:19:20 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> clearly it is a bijection, and if we're embedding either side into a monoid wrt "a" it is an isomorphism |
| 2025-03-31 02:19:26 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> alexfmpe: yeah |
| 2025-03-31 02:19:51 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> [1, 'a'] -> ['a'] <-> [(0, 'a')] |
| 2025-03-31 02:19:53 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> this is no bijection |
| 2025-03-31 02:19:58 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> it's an embedding at best |
| 2025-03-31 02:20:11 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> right, that has the same type but it is not the same map |
| 2025-03-31 02:20:22 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> "[a] -> [(Int, a)]" is invertible, but not surjective |
| 2025-03-31 02:20:30 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> so not bijective |
| 2025-03-31 02:21:06 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> well, my point is "zip [0..] . fmap snd" is not "id" |
| 2025-03-31 02:21:12 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> even though "fmap snd . zip [0..]" is |
| 2025-03-31 02:21:16 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> so it's not an iso |
| 2025-03-31 02:21:54 +0200 | hattckory | (~hattckory@bras-base-toroon4524w-grc-30-70-27-118-207.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 2025-03-31 02:23:00 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> hm right |
| 2025-03-31 02:30:28 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> it is however an isomorphism over its range, or over the subtype of "[(Int, a)]" of pairs ordered by the first element |
| 2025-03-31 02:31:45 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> as long as all function we compose it preserve this range, it will have the expected properties of "Iso" |
| 2025-03-31 02:31:52 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> we compose it with* |
| 2025-03-31 02:32:13 +0200 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-03-31 02:33:17 +0200 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) califx |
| 2025-03-31 02:34:06 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> but right the type system can't enforce the well typedness of such an "Iso" and it is not strictly speaking an member of "Iso' [a] [(Int, a)]" |
| 2025-03-31 02:34:47 +0200 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
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| 2025-03-31 02:38:35 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> yep no it's just straight up not an Iso lol ty |
| 2025-03-31 02:38:40 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> To fix this, constrain the first element to be exactly the index. The singleton Vector example does this |
| 2025-03-31 02:39:03 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> The first element of "(Int, a)", that is |
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| 2025-03-31 09:34:57 +0200 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) (Quit: zzz) |
| 2025-03-31 09:37:38 +0200 | XZDX | boobs_ |
| 2025-03-31 09:37:51 +0200 | boobs_ | XZDX |
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| 2025-03-31 09:43:46 +0200 | rit | (~rit@2409:40e0:101e:3313:4dd3:5aa1:e851:e0f) |
| 2025-03-31 09:50:01 +0200 | <hellwolf> | Question about Lens |
| 2025-03-31 09:50:01 +0200 | <hellwolf> | This is Iso: type Iso s t a b = forall p f. (Profunctor p, Functor f) => p a (f b) -> p s (f t) |
| 2025-03-31 09:50:27 +0200 | <hellwolf> | What if there is no functor instance: forall p. Profunctor p => p a b -> p s t |
| 2025-03-31 09:50:29 +0200 | <hellwolf> | what is it? |
| 2025-03-31 09:51:29 +0200 | <EvanR> | you mean f = Identity ? |
| 2025-03-31 09:56:38 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
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| 2025-03-31 10:11:45 +0200 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-03-31 10:12:34 +0200 | vgtw | (~vgtw@user/vgtw) vgtw |
| 2025-03-31 10:13:20 +0200 | <Leary> | hellwolf: Should be equivalent. `f = Identity` gives you one direction and `p = PostCompose f q` the other, where `newtype PostCompose f q x y = MkPC (q x (f y))`. |
| 2025-03-31 10:13:32 +0200 | <[exa]> | is there some library way to avoid writing (\(a,b) (c,d) -> (a+c, b+d)) ? |
| 2025-03-31 10:15:40 +0200 | <Leary> | Yes, pester the CLC to let `instance (Num a, Num b) => Num (a, b)` into base. |
| 2025-03-31 10:15:48 +0200 | hattckory | (~hattckory@bras-base-toroon4524w-grc-30-70-27-118-207.dsl.bell.ca) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-03-31 10:16:40 +0200 | <[exa]> | Leary: /me sad |
| 2025-03-31 10:17:25 +0200 | acidjnk | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e71c4f6101a7bfc96b38a12d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-03-31 10:17:55 +0200 | <[exa]> | I somehow thought this would be in tuple.extra or in bifunctors, so that I could at least write something like `zipBoth (+) (+)` but nope |
| 2025-03-31 10:18:03 +0200 | pie_ | (~pie_bnc@user/pie/x-2818909) () |
| 2025-03-31 10:18:15 +0200 | pie_ | (~pie_bnc@user/pie/x-2818909) __ |
| 2025-03-31 10:18:38 +0200 | <Leary> | Well, `biliftA2` could be your `zipBoth`. |
| 2025-03-31 10:18:48 +0200 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) vanishingideal |
| 2025-03-31 10:18:59 +0200 | <[exa]> | ooooh good |
| 2025-03-31 10:20:09 +0200 | <[exa]> | cool, thanks |
| 2025-03-31 10:20:42 +0200 | <[exa]> | (btw this is for use in a fold, I was mildly annoyed that Bifoldable actually doesn't fold the 2 things in parallel but it squashes them together) |
| 2025-03-31 10:21:14 +0200 | rit | (~rit@2409:40e0:101e:3313:4dd3:5aa1:e851:e0f) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-03-31 10:21:39 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-03-31 10:21:47 +0200 | <Leary> | In that case, you can leverage the fact that we /do/ have `instance (Monoid a, Monoid b) => Monoid (a, b)` and use `(Sum a, Sum b)`. |
| 2025-03-31 10:22:09 +0200 | <[exa]> | ah wait true |
| 2025-03-31 10:22:23 +0200 | <[exa]> | that's actually very lawfully lawful and thus in base, right |
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| 2025-03-31 10:46:12 +0200 | <[exa]> | Leary: turns out base even has Num a => Num (Sum a) so I don't even have to write the Sum anywhere. Thanks! |
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