| 2024-11-08 00:00:45 +0100 | notzmv | (~daniel@user/notzmv) notzmv |
| 2024-11-08 00:04:34 +0100 | ljdarj1 | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
| 2024-11-08 00:04:38 +0100 | pnotequalnp | (~pnotequal@user/pnotequalnp) pnotequalnp |
| 2024-11-08 00:06:47 +0100 | <yin> | this is fun!: i have a bidirectional pattern synonym and try to use record update syntax like `MyPattern { x = ... }` i can get the error `constructor MyPattern does not have field 'x'` |
| 2024-11-08 00:07:10 +0100 | <yin> | the solution: `(MyPattern) { x = ... }` |
| 2024-11-08 00:07:46 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 00:07:47 +0100 | ljdarj1 | ljdarj |
| 2024-11-08 00:08:19 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:759a:e3d6:c0c3:b78a) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 00:08:24 +0100 | <yin> | this feels kind of lispy |
| 2024-11-08 00:09:42 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-11-08 00:10:51 +0100 | <yin> | also feels like PatternSynonyms could be patched to allow the former |
| 2024-11-08 00:11:07 +0100 | pnotequalnp44 | (~pnotequal@user/pnotequalnp) pnotequalnp |
| 2024-11-08 00:11:57 +0100 | pnotequalnp | (~pnotequal@user/pnotequalnp) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 00:13:02 +0100 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) siracusa |
| 2024-11-08 00:13:49 +0100 | pnotequalnp44 | (~pnotequal@user/pnotequalnp) (Client Quit) |
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| 2024-11-08 00:21:07 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:759a:e3d6:c0c3:b78a) |
| 2024-11-08 00:21:18 +0100 | supercode | (~supercode@user/supercode) supercode |
| 2024-11-08 00:23:29 +0100 | CoolMa7 | (~CoolMa7@ip5f5b8957.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2024-11-08 00:23:46 +0100 | supercode | (~supercode@user/supercode) (Client Quit) |
| 2024-11-08 00:25:29 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-11-08 00:30:29 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 00:31:59 +0100 | son0p | (~ff@186.121.30.70) son0p |
| 2024-11-08 00:32:34 +0100 | <c_wraith> | that definitely sounds like a feature it should have. |
| 2024-11-08 00:32:54 +0100 | <c_wraith> | If it allows you to create a record pattern, it should use the same syntax as a record pattern... |
| 2024-11-08 00:33:05 +0100 | <monochrom> | To me it feels like kind of CPP. "#define add(x,y) ((x)+(y))" :) |
| 2024-11-08 00:33:49 +0100 | <monochrom> | PPP = pattern pre-processor >:) |
| 2024-11-08 00:36:51 +0100 | <geekosaur> | record update syntax is a bit weird |
| 2024-11-08 00:37:38 +0100 | <c_wraith> | like at the parser level? |
| 2024-11-08 00:37:41 +0100 | <monochrom> | It's probably a simple oversight in the parser. |
| 2024-11-08 00:38:00 +0100 | Leary | (~Leary@user/Leary/x-0910699) Leary |
| 2024-11-08 00:39:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | yeh, it's probably missing a case for patsyns so it makes you fall into the parenthesized expression case |
| 2024-11-08 00:42:09 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-11-08 00:44:33 +0100 | JuanDaugherty | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) JuanDaugherty |
| 2024-11-08 00:44:34 +0100 | <geekosaur> | they left |
| 2024-11-08 00:44:38 +0100 | <geekosaur> | whoops |
| 2024-11-08 00:47:13 +0100 | <geekosaur> | anyway it sounds like someone should file a bug on gitlab |
| 2024-11-08 00:50:57 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 00:57:10 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah |
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| 2024-11-08 01:37:02 +0100 | user363627 | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
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| 2024-11-08 01:41:46 +0100 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@91-159-69-59.elisa-laajakaista.fi) Tuplanolla |
| 2024-11-08 01:44:03 +0100 | jero98772 | (~jero98772@2800:484:1d7c:cc00::1) |
| 2024-11-08 01:44:38 +0100 | jero98772 | (~jero98772@2800:484:1d7c:cc00::1) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2024-11-08 01:44:56 +0100 | <yin> | point me to the right place to file it and i will |
| 2024-11-08 01:46:01 +0100 | <geekosaur> | https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues you will need a GitLab account |
| 2024-11-08 01:46:26 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-11-08 01:51:03 +0100 | <yin> | why am i being asked for gitlab login credentials on haskell.org? |
| 2024-11-08 01:51:10 +0100 | <yin> | this can't be right |
| 2024-11-08 01:51:51 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 01:52:42 +0100 | <geekosaur> | because browsers are dumb? I get that all the time, chrome asks me whether I want to use wiki or gitlab creds |
| 2024-11-08 01:53:00 +0100 | <geekosaur> | because "obviously" a subdomain is the same auth domain |
| 2024-11-08 01:53:18 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 01:56:14 +0100 | <yin> | no this is not the right way to do auth |
| 2024-11-08 01:56:49 +0100 | <yin> | either someone made a mistake or i'm misunderstanding something |
| 2024-11-08 01:56:49 +0100 | sprotte24 | (~sprotte24@p200300d16f05e000c862cdd7b290d75c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-11-08 01:59:19 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that might be a question for #haskell-infrastructure then |
| 2024-11-08 01:59:42 +0100 | <yin> | ah, this is not OAuth for gitlab.com. it's just for haskell.org's gitlab instance |
| 2024-11-08 01:59:45 +0100 | <user363627> | yin: the gitlab login credentials being asked would be for the instance being served at gitlab.haskell.org as opposed to gitlab.com |
| 2024-11-08 01:59:54 +0100 | <user363627> | yes |
| 2024-11-08 02:00:16 +0100 | <yin> | so i was misunderstanding something after all :) |
| 2024-11-08 02:00:25 +0100 | <user363627> | :) |
| 2024-11-08 02:01:08 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 02:01:53 +0100 | <monochrom> | Tangentailly, a few days ago some of us learned that DNS is not suffix-closed, i.e., subscriptions.techstreet.com resolves fine, but techstreet.com does not exist at all. |
| 2024-11-08 02:02:13 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-11-08 02:02:23 +0100 | <geekosaur> | …approved |
| 2024-11-08 02:02:52 +0100 | <yin> | yeah you can mess with DNS records in a myriad of ways |
| 2024-11-08 02:04:01 +0100 | <yin> | i personaly thing the whole of DNS is broken in more ways than one, but yeah... |
| 2024-11-08 02:04:08 +0100 | <monochrom> | Haha I need to make a website such that www.monochrom.org says "Haskell is great!" and yet monochrom.org says "Haskell sucks!" |
| 2024-11-08 02:07:13 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 02:09:51 +0100 | troojg | (~troojg@user/troojg) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-11-08 02:17:34 +0100 | <yin> | better yet, make http:// suck and https:// great |
| 2024-11-08 02:17:59 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-11-08 02:18:14 +0100 | JuanDaugherty | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) (Quit: JuanDaugherty) |
| 2024-11-08 02:19:02 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) |
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| 2024-11-08 02:27:49 +0100 | <probie> | monochrom: you don't need to mess with DNS records for that, you just need to speak HTTP >= 1.1 |
| 2024-11-08 02:28:59 +0100 | <monochrom> | That's true. |
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| 2024-11-08 03:03:09 +0100 | <yin> | it depends on how much you want it to suck >:) |
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| 2024-11-08 05:05:03 +0100 | user363627 | weary-traveler |
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| 2024-11-08 05:11:55 +0100 | cjay | (cjay@nerdbox.nerd2nerd.org) cjay |
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| 2024-11-08 05:24:06 +0100 | ih1d_ | (~ih1d@24.139.109.18) |
| 2024-11-08 05:24:22 +0100 | <ih1d_> | hello! |
| 2024-11-08 05:25:05 +0100 | <ih1d_> | anybody have good resources for ffi and linking c libraries to projects (using pkg-config etc.) |
| 2024-11-08 05:31:33 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
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| 2024-11-08 05:45:07 +0100 | aforemny | (~aforemny@2001:9e8:6cda:5700:b93:b66b:84fb:f5e8) aforemny |
| 2024-11-08 05:46:20 +0100 | aforemny_ | (~aforemny@i59F4C67C.versanet.de) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
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| 2024-11-08 05:49:34 +0100 | <jackdk> | ih1d_: if you don't mind GPL, you could crib https://git.sr.ht/~jack/libtelnet-haskell - it's a simple lib with a pkg-config dependency |
| 2024-11-08 05:50:07 +0100 | <jackdk> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y95WtkWCmKg I think this FFI talk was the one I saw years ago and thought was valuable |
| 2024-11-08 05:52:39 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 05:54:57 +0100 | <int-e> | There are many FFI bindings on Hackage that you could base this on. There's a question of scale... if there are many functions to bind, looking into c2hs may be worthwhile. Or, if it's humongous, adapting c2hs (gtk does that with gtk2hs-buildtools ...) |
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| 2024-11-08 13:35:58 +0100 | <yin> | turns out record update syntax is weirder than i thought https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/25456 |
| 2024-11-08 13:43:22 +0100 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2024-11-08 13:43:27 +0100 | <yin> | i thought i got over my hate for record syntax... |
| 2024-11-08 13:44:16 +0100 | <Rembane> | Welcome back yin! :/ |
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| 2024-11-08 13:51:33 +0100 | mceresa | (~mceresa@user/mceresa) (Read error: error:0A000119:SSL routines::decryption failed or bad record mac) |
| 2024-11-08 13:52:04 +0100 | <yin> | philosophically, are records just a data structure that we give the compiler permission to optimize however it sees fit or is there something more to it? |
| 2024-11-08 13:52:24 +0100 | <kqr> | Text.Printf does not come with an instance for Text. When I poke around I see some suggestions to use Data.Text.Format instead. Is this actually preferred? I find very little comparison online. The use case is not large templating but creating a Show instance for a custom numeric type – so I'm hesitant to reach for something that's not in base. |
| 2024-11-08 13:53:22 +0100 | <Rembane> | yin: IIRC it's syntactic sugar for not having to write out all the access functions and save functions for a datatype. |
| 2024-11-08 13:54:13 +0100 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) (Quit: Bye) |
| 2024-11-08 13:54:21 +0100 | alexherbo2 | (~alexherbo@2a02-8440-3309-f88a-dc43-ac5e-6a5b-79bd.rev.sfr.net) alexherbo2 |
| 2024-11-08 13:56:39 +0100 | <yin> | Rembane: yes but how is their structure implemented internally? |
| 2024-11-08 13:56:57 +0100 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2024-11-08 13:57:06 +0100 | BolzmannPain | (~BolzmannP@user/BolzmannPain) BolzmannPain |
| 2024-11-08 13:57:13 +0100 | <opqdonut> | I wouldn't expect using or not using record syntax to affect the runtime characteristics |
| 2024-11-08 13:57:39 +0100 | <opqdonut> | but I have no idea what GHC actually does |
| 2024-11-08 13:57:45 +0100 | <Rembane> | yin: As product types plus some functions. Like the `data` types with many arguments without the record stuff. |
| 2024-11-08 13:57:57 +0100 | <Leary> | yin: It's a matter of interface, not representation. With regular product types, you only have positional notation for manipulating contained values. Records just let you specify them with names instead. |
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| 2024-11-08 14:01:14 +0100 | <yin> | i guess i'm thinking about the performance of product types in general comparing to, say, HashMap |
| 2024-11-08 14:01:38 +0100 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@2a03:7846:b6eb:101:93ac:a90a:da67:f207) ash3en |
| 2024-11-08 14:03:14 +0100 | <yin> | maybe i abuse record updating |
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| 2024-11-08 14:50:37 +0100 | Awoobis | gAy_Dragon |
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| 2024-11-08 14:55:34 +0100 | user363627 | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
| 2024-11-08 14:56:06 +0100 | user363627 | weary-traveler |
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| 2024-11-08 15:01:05 +0100 | emfrom | (~emfrom@37.170.21.237) |
| 2024-11-08 15:01:34 +0100 | <yin> | maybe not |
| 2024-11-08 15:05:59 +0100 | <Rembane> | yin: How are you using records? |
| 2024-11-08 15:10:08 +0100 | ubert | (~Thunderbi@178.165.164.236.wireless.dyn.drei.com) (Quit: ubert) |
| 2024-11-08 15:10:30 +0100 | ubert | (~Thunderbi@178.165.164.236.wireless.dyn.drei.com) ubert |
| 2024-11-08 15:10:57 +0100 | Digitteknohippie | (~user@user/digit) Digit |
| 2024-11-08 15:11:10 +0100 | Digit | (~user@user/digit) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 15:13:33 +0100 | <yin> | i think my MO is passing state around as a huge record with all the "global" variables |
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| 2024-11-08 15:17:18 +0100 | Digitteknohippie | Digit |
| 2024-11-08 15:17:38 +0100 | <yin> | state that gets updated many times a second. stuff like this: `... = (step st { μ = Play , θ = now (θ st) }) { μ = Pause }` |
| 2024-11-08 15:19:14 +0100 | alexherbo2 | (~alexherbo@2a02-8440-3309-f88a-dc43-ac5e-6a5b-79bd.rev.sfr.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-11-08 15:19:33 +0100 | alexherbo2 | (~alexherbo@2a02-8440-3309-f88a-dc43-ac5e-6a5b-79bd.rev.sfr.net) alexherbo2 |
| 2024-11-08 15:19:34 +0100 | <yin> | (weird example that was just right in front of me) (also i try to avoid optics like the plague) |
| 2024-11-08 15:20:19 +0100 | JuanDaugherty | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) JuanDaugherty |
| 2024-11-08 15:24:33 +0100 | Smiles | (uid551636@id-551636.lymington.irccloud.com) Smiles |
| 2024-11-08 15:25:21 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 2024-11-08 15:26:12 +0100 | <Rembane> | yin: That sounds reasonable. Have you checked out some of the language extensions that were created to make records a byt more ergonomic? |
| 2024-11-08 15:26:31 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah |
| 2024-11-08 15:28:05 +0100 | <yin> | such as? |
| 2024-11-08 15:28:18 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@77.22.252.56) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
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| 2024-11-08 15:28:51 +0100 | <yin> | i recently started using pattern synonyms, but just because the use case *really* asked for it, not because i like it |
| 2024-11-08 15:28:59 +0100 | JuanDaugherty | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) (Quit: JuanDaugherty) |
| 2024-11-08 15:31:48 +0100 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2a216.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ft |
| 2024-11-08 15:33:12 +0100 | notzmv | (~daniel@user/notzmv) notzmv |
| 2024-11-08 15:34:46 +0100 | <Rembane> | yin: These: https://ghc.gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/doc/users_guide/exts/records.html |
| 2024-11-08 15:37:00 +0100 | ljdarj1 | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
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| 2024-11-08 15:40:14 +0100 | ljdarj1 | ljdarj |
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| 2024-11-08 16:07:10 +0100 | <merijn> | kqr: I mean, Printf is kinda yikes, so I would definitely avoid that |
| 2024-11-08 16:07:37 +0100 | son0p | (~ff@186.121.30.70) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 16:08:18 +0100 | <merijn> | kqr: ah, wait, custom numeric types suggest what you *really* want is "convert number to string with control over decimals, etc." yes? |
| 2024-11-08 16:09:28 +0100 | <merijn> | kqr: Which suggest what you really want might be in base's Numeric module :) |
| 2024-11-08 16:12:17 +0100 | <merijn> | yin: Why avoid optics like the plague? |
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