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| 2024-11-01 02:07:22 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zwro> is (pure@IO . ($!!)) the same as (evaluate . force) ? |
| 2024-11-01 02:13:07 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zwro> * (pure @IO . ($!!)) equivalent to |
| 2024-11-01 02:13:33 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) |
| 2024-11-01 02:14:32 +0100 | <dolio> | No. |
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| 2024-11-01 02:15:08 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-11-01 02:15:11 +0100 | <EvanR> | :t force |
| 2024-11-01 02:15:12 +0100 | <lambdabot> | NFData a => a -> a |
| 2024-11-01 02:16:00 +0100 | <EvanR> | force evaluates to normal form, $! doesn't |
| 2024-11-01 02:16:17 +0100 | <dolio> | ($!!) does, but they're still not equivalent. |
| 2024-11-01 02:16:32 +0100 | <EvanR> | $!! wasn't a typo, dang |
| 2024-11-01 02:16:50 +0100 | <EvanR> | :t ($!!) |
| 2024-11-01 02:16:52 +0100 | <lambdabot> | NFData a => (a -> b) -> a -> b |
| 2024-11-01 02:16:57 +0100 | <int-e> | but the type is all wrong |
| 2024-11-01 02:17:14 +0100 | <int-e> | pure . <anything> won't force its argment |
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| 2024-11-01 02:19:44 +0100 | spew | (~spew@201.141.99.170) (Quit: party time) |
| 2024-11-01 02:20:01 +0100 | <int-e> | (pure $!!) is still not equivalent though. |
| 2024-11-01 02:20:08 +0100 | <dolio> | Right. :) |
| 2024-11-01 02:20:43 +0100 | <int-e> | compare (evaluate undefined :: IO ()) `seq` () and (pure $! undefined :: IO ()) `seq` () |
| 2024-11-01 02:22:12 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 02:32:07 +0100 | <EvanR> | > pure $! undefined :: IO () |
| 2024-11-01 02:32:08 +0100 | <lambdabot> | <IO ()> |
| 2024-11-01 02:32:25 +0100 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-11-01 02:32:45 +0100 | <EvanR> | % pure $! undefined :: IO () |
| 2024-11-01 02:32:45 +0100 | <yahb2> | *** Exception: Prelude.undefined ; CallStack (from HasCallStack): ; undefined, called at <interactive>:27:9 in interactive:Ghci5 |
| 2024-11-01 02:32:54 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-11-01 02:32:59 +0100 | <EvanR> | % (pure $! undefined :: IO ()) `seq` () |
| 2024-11-01 02:32:59 +0100 | <yahb2> | *** Exception: Prelude.undefined ; CallStack (from HasCallStack): ; undefined, called at <interactive>:29:10 in interactive:Ghci5 |
| 2024-11-01 02:33:12 +0100 | <EvanR> | sus |
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| 2024-11-01 10:01:27 +0100 | troydm | (~troydm@user/troydm) (Quit: What is Hope? That all of your wishes and all of your dreams come true? To turn back time because things were not supposed to happen like that (C) Rau Le Creuset) |
| 2024-11-01 10:08:33 +0100 | Miroboru | (~myrvoll@178-164-114.82.3p.ntebredband.no) Miroboru |
| 2024-11-01 10:16:06 +0100 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@2a03:7846:b6eb:101:93ac:a90a:da67:f207) ash3en |
| 2024-11-01 10:22:16 +0100 | Square2 | (~Square4@user/square) Square |
| 2024-11-01 10:27:16 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | my experience with this stuff is that IO seems to be strict in all your tests, but it fails if you actually want to use that for code correctness |
| 2024-11-01 10:27:19 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | so use evaluate and be safe |
| 2024-11-01 10:34:05 +0100 | <c_wraith> | evaluate isn't magic. the documentation explains what does and why. |
| 2024-11-01 10:35:43 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | right. In practice, though, not using `evaluate` comes to bite me not in the presence of exceptions but when benchmarking |
| 2024-11-01 10:36:10 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | if you want to benchmark an IO operation and are doing the timing manually for some reason, please, use `evaluate`. Using `return $! _` or something similar _will not work properly_ |
| 2024-11-01 10:36:15 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | it will work sometimes |
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| 2024-11-01 11:21:49 +0100 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@2a03:7846:b6eb:101:93ac:a90a:da67:f207) (Quit: ash3en) |
| 2024-11-01 11:22:06 +0100 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@2a03:7846:b6eb:101:93ac:a90a:da67:f207) ash3en |
| 2024-11-01 11:22:45 +0100 | absence | (torgeihe@hildring.pvv.ntnu.no) absence |
| 2024-11-01 11:25:15 +0100 | <absence> | Is it possible to pass an implicit parameter explicitly, without creating a binding in the calling scope? |
| 2024-11-01 11:25:37 +0100 | <mauke> | why without creating a binding? |
| 2024-11-01 11:25:38 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | you can create the binding locally |
| 2024-11-01 11:25:46 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | `let ?param = _ in f x y z` |
| 2024-11-01 11:26:19 +0100 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 11:26:55 +0100 | <absence> | mauke: Less clutter, and clearer intent. |
| 2024-11-01 11:27:12 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | using a let-binding is the only way to set implicit parameters |
| 2024-11-01 11:27:26 +0100 | <absence> | I see, thanks! |
| 2024-11-01 11:32:18 +0100 | chele | (~chele@user/chele) chele |
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| 2024-11-01 11:50:41 +0100 | k_hachig_ | (~k_hachig@2607:fea8:351d:ef0:901a:fefb:e87f:78b3) k_hachig |
| 2024-11-01 11:56:29 +0100 | k_hachig_ | (~k_hachig@2607:fea8:351d:ef0:901a:fefb:e87f:78b3) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 12:01:23 +0100 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@2a03:7846:b6eb:101:93ac:a90a:da67:f207) (Quit: ash3en) |
| 2024-11-01 12:12:28 +0100 | sprotte24 | (~sprotte24@p200300d16f13bb00e9ebafc1049584f7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2024-11-01 12:15:11 +0100 | <sprotte24> | Hi |
| 2024-11-01 12:15:21 +0100 | <Rembane> | Hi sprotte24 ! |
| 2024-11-01 12:15:35 +0100 | <sprotte24> | I want to write a Haskell program |
| 2024-11-01 12:15:47 +0100 | <sprotte24> | Hi, Rembane |
| 2024-11-01 12:15:51 +0100 | <mauke> | what's it do? |
| 2024-11-01 12:16:19 +0100 | <Hecate> | rembaaaaaaane |
| 2024-11-01 12:16:25 +0100 | <Hecate> | what's uuuuup |
| 2024-11-01 12:16:28 +0100 | <sprotte24> | The Haskell programm has to compute the nearest Power of two for a given n. |
| 2024-11-01 12:16:34 +0100 | <Hecate> | sprotte24: nice |
| 2024-11-01 12:16:37 +0100 | <sprotte24> | Example: |
| 2024-11-01 12:16:42 +0100 | <mauke> | oh, is this homework? |
| 2024-11-01 12:17:21 +0100 | <sprotte24> | n= 9 nearest Power is 16 |
| 2024-11-01 12:17:35 +0100 | <mauke> | I'd say it's 8 |
| 2024-11-01 12:17:41 +0100 | <sprotte24> | Yes. kome work |
| 2024-11-01 12:18:03 +0100 | <Hecate> | mauke: maybe they have to round to the highest power of 2 |
| 2024-11-01 12:18:15 +0100 | <mauke> | yeah, that actually makes things easier |
| 2024-11-01 12:18:22 +0100 | <Rembane> | Hecate: Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup! :D |
| 2024-11-01 12:18:23 +0100 | <sprotte24> | The restriction: using binary is forbidden. |
| 2024-11-01 12:18:33 +0100 | <mauke> | define "using binary" |
| 2024-11-01 12:18:38 +0100 | <mauke> | like bit shifts? |
| 2024-11-01 12:18:46 +0100 | <Hecate> | damnit I was about to suggest that hahahaha |
| 2024-11-01 12:19:23 +0100 | <Hecate> | Rembane: I'm not doing too bad! Still at Chalmers? |
| 2024-11-01 12:20:15 +0100 | <sprotte24> | ok. if I use binary number, the Powers of 2 have the format 1, 10 100 1000 and so on |
| 2024-11-01 12:20:20 +0100 | <mauke> | :t head . dropWhile (< ?n) . iterate (2 *) $ 1 |
| 2024-11-01 12:20:21 +0100 | <lambdabot> | (Ord c, ?n::c, Num c) => c |
| 2024-11-01 12:20:29 +0100 | <Rembane> | Hecate: Still at Chalmers! I'll be done any day now. :D |
| 2024-11-01 12:21:21 +0100 | <sprotte24> | I am not allowed to use a list |
| 2024-11-01 12:21:33 +0100 | <Hecate> | Rembane: lovely. :) Say hi to Andreas Abel from me if you meet him |
| 2024-11-01 12:21:45 +0100 | <Rembane> | Hecate: Sure thing! :D |
| 2024-11-01 12:22:40 +0100 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2024-11-01 12:22:41 +0100 | <sprotte24> | I have to test whether nearestPowerOfTwo n >= 2^k |
| 2024-11-01 12:23:36 +0100 | misterfish | (~misterfis@31-161-39-137.biz.kpn.net) misterfish |
| 2024-11-01 12:24:01 +0100 | <sprotte24> | One Problem: my input parameter is n and I have to increment k until the condition is satisfied |
| 2024-11-01 12:24:24 +0100 | <mauke> | ah, the slow way |
| 2024-11-01 12:24:30 +0100 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
| 2024-11-01 12:24:42 +0100 | <mauke> | where are you stuck? |
| 2024-11-01 12:24:51 +0100 | <sprotte24> | I suppose I need a local variaable for k? |
| 2024-11-01 12:25:44 +0100 | <sprotte24> | I plan to build an recursive solution? |
| 2024-11-01 12:26:15 +0100 | <mauke> | yeah, if you want to emulate a loop in functional code, it's always going to be a recursive function |
| 2024-11-01 12:26:32 +0100 | <mauke> | (or a data structure like a list, but you're not allowed to do that, apparently) |
| 2024-11-01 12:26:33 +0100 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 12:26:55 +0100 | <mauke> | any "loop variable" that changes in the loop is going to become a function parameter |
| 2024-11-01 12:27:34 +0100 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 12:28:06 +0100 | <sprotte24> | In my recursive loop I have to Test an to increment the Power index. |
| 2024-11-01 12:28:49 +0100 | <sprotte24> | I had a solution, but that solution used 2 parameters n and k. |
| 2024-11-01 12:29:05 +0100 | <sprotte24> | I show it, one moment please |
| 2024-11-01 12:30:05 +0100 | <Hecate> | sprotte24: don't hesitate to use play.haskell.org ! |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:08 +0100 | <sprotte24> | -- 3.3 next power2 |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:08 +0100 | <sprotte24> | roundUpToPower2 :: Int -> Int -> Int |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:08 +0100 | <sprotte24> | roundUpToPower2 n k = if n == 1 then 1 |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:08 +0100 | <sprotte24> | else if (nthPowerTwo k) >= n then (nthPowerTwo k) |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:08 +0100 | <sprotte24> | else roundUpToPower2 n (k + 1) |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:08 +0100 | <sprotte24> | roundUpToPowerTwo :: Int -> Int |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:10 +0100 | <sprotte24> | roundUpToPowerTwo n = roundUpToPower2 n 1 |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:43 +0100 | <sprotte24> | -- 3.1 nthPowerTwo |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:43 +0100 | <sprotte24> | nthPowerTwo :: Int -> Int |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:43 +0100 | <sprotte24> | nthPowerTwo n = if n==0 then 1 else 2*nthPowerTwo(n-1) |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:50 +0100 | <mauke> | plase don't paste into IRC |
| 2024-11-01 12:31:58 +0100 | <mauke> | use a paste site like https://paste.tomsmeding.com to show code |
| 2024-11-01 12:32:24 +0100 | <sprotte24> | ok |
| 2024-11-01 12:33:05 +0100 | <mauke> | (and give us the link) |
| 2024-11-01 12:34:23 +0100 | <mauke> | anyway, that looks like it would work |
| 2024-11-01 12:34:55 +0100 | <mauke> | nthPowerTwo k could be replaced by 2 ^ k |
| 2024-11-01 12:36:43 +0100 | <sprotte24> | We should not use the power function directly |
| 2024-11-01 12:37:07 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 12:37:47 +0100 | <sprotte24> | or I use a function double |
| 2024-11-01 12:40:17 +0100 | <sprotte24> | Two ways: double the base 2 (1 2 4 8 ...) or increment the exponent of 2 |
| 2024-11-01 12:40:22 +0100 | rvalue- | (~rvalue@user/rvalue) rvalue |
| 2024-11-01 12:40:47 +0100 | rvalue | (~rvalue@user/rvalue) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 12:43:24 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-11-01 12:47:32 +0100 | <sprotte24> | I have to leave home in 5 minutes and could contine in the later afternoon with my problem. |
| 2024-11-01 12:48:16 +0100 | rvalue- | rvalue |
| 2024-11-01 12:48:25 +0100 | <mauke> | did you have a question? |
| 2024-11-01 12:49:17 +0100 | <sprotte24> | my problem was the nearest power of 2 |
| 2024-11-01 12:51:03 +0100 | Square | (~Square@user/square) Square |
| 2024-11-01 12:51:58 +0100 | CatGPT | catties |
| 2024-11-01 12:52:08 +0100 | <sprotte24> | bye |
| 2024-11-01 12:52:14 +0100 | sprotte24 | (~sprotte24@p200300d16f13bb00e9ebafc1049584f7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2024-11-01 12:55:18 +0100 | Square2 | (~Square4@user/square) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 12:56:49 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-11-01 12:57:37 +0100 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2024-11-01 12:58:53 +0100 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-11-01 13:02:04 +0100 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 13:02:29 +0100 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a05:5800:487:0:ca4b:d6ff:fec1:99da) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 13:02:37 +0100 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2024-11-01 13:05:52 +0100 | turlando | (~turlando@user/turlando) () |
| 2024-11-01 13:06:03 +0100 | <Square> | If you want to extend your build environemnt with a local package repository, what's your choices? |
| 2024-11-01 13:06:18 +0100 | <Square> | local as organization wide. |
| 2024-11-01 13:07:13 +0100 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 13:09:50 +0100 | <Square> | I see cabal has means to configure more repositories. But what software does it use? |
| 2024-11-01 13:12:04 +0100 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) lortabac |
| 2024-11-01 13:12:25 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 2024-11-01 13:14:58 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:26bf:a0f9:b4d:93d8) |
| 2024-11-01 13:29:49 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-11-01 13:38:37 +0100 | sawilagar | (~sawilagar@user/sawilagar) sawilagar |
| 2024-11-01 13:45:25 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zwro> i'm still having trouble understanding the difference between (evaluate . force) and (pure @IO . ($!!)) |
| 2024-11-01 13:51:19 +0100 | <mauke> | same, but I think the semantics of the latter depend on how IO is implemented |
| 2024-11-01 13:51:26 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@176.2.142.161) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 13:53:29 +0100 | <mauke> | > evalState (do error "bang"; pure 2) () |
| 2024-11-01 13:53:31 +0100 | <lambdabot> | 2 |
| 2024-11-01 13:54:16 +0100 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2024-11-01 13:55:39 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@176.2.67.66) |
| 2024-11-01 13:57:35 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Square: https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/3.4/cabal-project.html#cfg-field-active-repositories may be relevant, but I've never used it |
| 2024-11-01 13:58:16 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | oh there is more text in the latest version https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/stable/cabal-project-description-file.html#cfg-field-active-reposi… |
| 2024-11-01 13:59:00 +0100 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 14:00:47 +0100 | <Square> | tomsmeding, yeah i found those settings too. But what software do you use to run a repo? A company hackage if you will. |
| 2024-11-01 14:01:37 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Square: you might want to steal stuff from how head.hackage is implemented https://ghc.gitlab.haskell.org/head.hackage/ |
| 2024-11-01 14:05:01 +0100 | <Leary> | Square: https://hackage.haskell.org/ says "Hackage-server is on github [...]. Developer documentation is on in the github README, includig a quick guide to running your own server instance, and mirroring the central server." |
| 2024-11-01 14:05:20 +0100 | <Square> | Gotcha. Thanks |
| 2024-11-01 14:06:27 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | (it's nice how that head.hackage page shows how to add a 'repository' stanza to cabal.project.local, but then the cabal documentation is completely silent about such a stanza existing.) |
| 2024-11-01 14:08:00 +0100 | Guest77 | (~Guest77@2402:a00:401:f093:da9e:f3ff:fe4b:8a8b) |
| 2024-11-01 14:12:25 +0100 | <mauke> | are codes like "Cabal-4345" documented anywhere? |
| 2024-11-01 14:15:44 +0100 | Xe | (~cadey@perl/impostor/xe) (Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2) |
| 2024-11-01 14:15:53 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zwro> mauke: that makes sense. i suspect GHC might optimize to the same core implementation but i need to test it |
| 2024-11-01 14:18:05 +0100 | Guest77 | (~Guest77@2402:a00:401:f093:da9e:f3ff:fe4b:8a8b) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2024-11-01 14:18:45 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zwro> benchmarks for trivial cases show no discernible difference |
| 2024-11-01 14:18:48 +0100 | mulk | (~mulk@pd95146e9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 14:18:50 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: They should be, that's the point ;) |
| 2024-11-01 14:19:16 +0100 | <merijn> | Square: It uses "hackage" |
| 2024-11-01 14:19:46 +0100 | <merijn> | Square: You can set up your own internal Hackage and Hoogle and have cabal fallback to the regular public one (if desired) |
| 2024-11-01 14:20:10 +0100 | slac68956 | (~slack1256@179.60.70.224) slack1256 |
| 2024-11-01 14:21:15 +0100 | mulk | (~mulk@pd95146e9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) mulk |
| 2024-11-01 14:21:30 +0100 | <Square> | merijn, yeah. Seems to be it. I was thinking there were different options. But excellent if hackage availble. |
| 2024-11-01 14:21:40 +0100 | Xe | (~cadey@perl/impostor/xe) Xe |
| 2024-11-01 14:21:41 +0100 | <Square> | is available* |
| 2024-11-01 14:22:03 +0100 | slack1256 | (~slack1256@2803:c600:5111:8696:d97c:cbc8:139:bdb3) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 14:23:10 +0100 | <merijn> | Square: I think it can use "dumb" disk repos too so you could have a shared network filesystem or something and use that |
| 2024-11-01 14:23:30 +0100 | <merijn> | but if you run hackage you get the benefits of hyperlinked browsable docs for internal libs for free |
| 2024-11-01 14:23:57 +0100 | Square2 | (~Square4@user/square) Square |
| 2024-11-01 14:24:02 +0100 | <mauke> | merijn: I'll take that as a "no" |
| 2024-11-01 14:24:17 +0100 | <mauke> | nothing in the manual, nothing on the website, nothing in a google search |
| 2024-11-01 14:24:29 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: Hecate was leading something on error codes in GHC |
| 2024-11-01 14:24:47 +0100 | <merijn> | I'm assuming cabal codes are extension of that |
| 2024-11-01 14:25:01 +0100 | <yushyin> | the error message index website? yes, but it is incomplete |
| 2024-11-01 14:25:04 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: https://discourse.haskell.org/t/announcing-the-haskell-error-index/5195 |
| 2024-11-01 14:25:12 +0100 | <yushyin> | https://errors.haskell.org/cabal/ |
| 2024-11-01 14:26:11 +0100 | <mauke> | nothing there either |
| 2024-11-01 14:26:27 +0100 | <merijn> | I see some CABAL-xxx codes there |
| 2024-11-01 14:26:43 +0100 | <mauke> | hah: "So far, 1 Cabal errors and warnings are documented here." |
| 2024-11-01 14:26:48 +0100 | <mauke> | 1 whole errors |
| 2024-11-01 14:26:48 +0100 | <merijn> | nice :) |
| 2024-11-01 14:27:20 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: Work in progress ;) |
| 2024-11-01 14:27:32 +0100 | <merijn> | Step one is *having* unique codes, step two is documenting them ;) |
| 2024-11-01 14:30:08 +0100 | <mauke> | how do I tell cabal what C compiler to use? |
| 2024-11-01 14:30:33 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: You can't tell cabal, you need to tell GHC |
| 2024-11-01 14:30:47 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: Cabal just invokes GHC on C files, which determines what C compiler to call |
| 2024-11-01 14:30:58 +0100 | <merijn> | I think there was either a config file or GHC flag to tell it to use something else |
| 2024-11-01 14:31:01 +0100 | <mauke> | no, cabal is doing something stupid |
| 2024-11-01 14:31:05 +0100 | <mauke> | and I can't figure out what |
| 2024-11-01 14:31:13 +0100 | <yushyin> | 4345 is the missing deps on foreign libs error, no? this is one of the more murky errors |
| 2024-11-01 14:31:35 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: Error? And I assume you mean actual C and not secretly C++? |
| 2024-11-01 14:31:46 +0100 | <mauke> | Missing (or bad) header file: wcalc.h |
| 2024-11-01 14:32:01 +0100 | <mauke> | the fun part is that it only happens on 'cabal install'. 'cabal build' is fine with it |
| 2024-11-01 14:32:09 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: Ah, that sounds more like wrong include dirs than wrong compiler, no? |
| 2024-11-01 14:32:20 +0100 | <mauke> | oh, the compiler is fine |
| 2024-11-01 14:32:33 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: Is the cabal file public? |
| 2024-11-01 14:32:44 +0100 | <mauke> | but I can't get it to tell me wtf it's doing, so my plan is to configure a fake compiler that just dumps what's going on |
| 2024-11-01 14:32:52 +0100 | <merijn> | ooh |
| 2024-11-01 14:32:57 +0100 | <merijn> | I think I know :D |
| 2024-11-01 14:33:05 +0100 | <merijn> | But lemme check the cabal file first |
| 2024-11-01 14:33:24 +0100 | k_hachig_ | (~k_hachig@2607:fea8:351d:ef0:901a:fefb:e87f:78b3) k_hachig |
| 2024-11-01 14:33:48 +0100 | <mauke> | merijn: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/uNvsLOb0 |
| 2024-11-01 14:33:53 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: First clue is: "build works, install fails". install *always* builds an sdist *first* and THEN installs from that. To protect against broken sdists |
| 2024-11-01 14:34:05 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: So most likely your sdist is fucked and not including the header |
| 2024-11-01 14:34:29 +0100 | <mauke> | I wish it would stop building an sdist. all I want is an executable |
| 2024-11-01 14:35:06 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: Yeah, I think the problem is that `includes` doesn't include your headers in the sdist |
| 2024-11-01 14:35:21 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: My C shipping projects explicitly list headers under `extra-source-files` |
| 2024-11-01 14:36:05 +0100 | <merijn> | mauke: https://github.com/merijn/Belewitte/blob/ed95965077ee0a55c9a206b75445ddf93723916b/benchmark-analys… |
| 2024-11-01 14:36:28 +0100 | <merijn> | C-sources get included, `includes` does not (since it might contain generated/system/whatever stuff) |
| 2024-11-01 14:39:24 +0100 | k_hachig_ | (~k_hachig@2607:fea8:351d:ef0:901a:fefb:e87f:78b3) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-01 14:40:26 +0100 | <mauke> | merijn: thank you! |