| 2024-10-26 00:00:33 +0200 | <Zer000> | Yeah it still crashes instead of catching my exception. I really don't know what I'm doing when it comes to this laziness stuff but I'll try to think where there could be a thunk |
| 2024-10-26 00:01:31 +0200 | JuanDaugherty | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) (Quit: JuanDaugherty) |
| 2024-10-26 00:01:34 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-10-26 00:04:35 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it's a list, there's a thunk at every index 🙂 |
| 2024-10-26 00:04:58 +0200 | vglfr | (~vglfr@2607:fb90:ea85:c41e:ad3:f757:9a54:48e7) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-10-26 00:05:24 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | Zer000: evaluating e.g. a pair to WHNF does not evaluate the components of the pair to WHNF |
| 2024-10-26 00:05:36 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | make sure you really evaluate all you need to evaluate |
| 2024-10-26 00:05:41 +0200 | <Zer000> | So I gotta go deeper? |
| 2024-10-26 00:05:44 +0200 | <Zer000> | OK |
| 2024-10-26 00:05:57 +0200 | <geekosaur> | Control.Deepseq.rnf in extreme cases |
| 2024-10-26 00:06:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (that's the right module I think?) |
| 2024-10-26 00:06:17 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2024-10-26 00:06:41 +0200 | <geekosaur> | just make sure it doesn't have any bottoms or cycles |
| 2024-10-26 00:06:47 +0200 | <mauke> | did you look at the code? |
| 2024-10-26 00:06:52 +0200 | <mauke> | the list is [1, 2, 3] |
| 2024-10-26 00:07:28 +0200 | <Zer000> | mauke, no but that example code DOES work, my actual code does not |
| 2024-10-26 00:07:34 +0200 | <Zer000> | and the list is built using other pure functions |
| 2024-10-26 00:08:11 +0200 | <Zer000> | I only posted that snippet to say that tryAny from safe-exceptions can catch that negative index exception |
| 2024-10-26 00:08:15 +0200 | <mauke> | oh, sorry. I confused myself |
| 2024-10-26 00:08:33 +0200 | <mauke> | btw, there is displayException |
| 2024-10-26 00:09:25 +0200 | <Zer000> | how do you even use rnf geekosaur? It results in () always |
| 2024-10-26 00:09:29 +0200 | <mauke> | which is mostly unrelated, but can be used instead of show |
| 2024-10-26 00:09:40 +0200 | <Zer000> | oh cool |
| 2024-10-26 00:09:59 +0200 | <mauke> | evaluate (rnf x) |
| 2024-10-26 00:11:14 +0200 | <monochrom> | it results in exception if there is an exception. |
| 2024-10-26 00:11:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | or ``rnf x `seq` y`` |
| 2024-10-26 00:13:25 +0200 | <mauke> | > [1, 2, 3, error "an exception has occurred", 5] `seq` "all good" |
| 2024-10-26 00:13:26 +0200 | <lambdabot> | "all good" |
| 2024-10-26 00:13:31 +0200 | <mauke> | > rnf [1, 2, 3, error "an exception has occurred", 5] `seq` "all good" |
| 2024-10-26 00:13:32 +0200 | <lambdabot> | error: Variable not in scope: rnf :: [a1] -> a0 |
| 2024-10-26 00:13:36 +0200 | <mauke> | :-( |
| 2024-10-26 00:13:45 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2024-10-26 00:13:56 +0200 | <mauke> | @let import Control.DeepSeq |
| 2024-10-26 00:13:57 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Defined. |
| 2024-10-26 00:13:59 +0200 | <mauke> | > rnf [1, 2, 3, error "an exception has occurred", 5] `seq` "all good" |
| 2024-10-26 00:14:00 +0200 | <lambdabot> | "*Exception: an exception has occurred |
| 2024-10-26 00:15:09 +0200 | <Zer000> | I see, so you just use it on a separate line in an IO context to see if everything is ok |
| 2024-10-26 00:15:24 +0200 | <Zer000> | thanks! |
| 2024-10-26 00:17:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it should work even if x and y are the same thing (in my example) |
| 2024-10-26 00:18:02 +0200 | vglfr | (~vglfr@c-73-250-25-113.hsd1.md.comcast.net) vglfr |
| 2024-10-26 00:18:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | whereas ``x `seq` x`` is a non-sequitur |
| 2024-10-26 00:18:43 +0200 | <geekosaur> | ("force `x` to WHNF when `x` is forced to WHNF") |
| 2024-10-26 00:19:07 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-10-26 00:19:34 +0200 | <monochrom> | I'll finish when I finish. :) |
| 2024-10-26 00:22:10 +0200 | <Zer000> | I had a function that was defined in point-free-style and when I made everything there explicit (and extra bangs just in case) it seemed to work. |
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| 2024-10-26 03:02:20 +0200 | <habib> | hey, does anyone know if it's possible to pass key values with spaces in to hadrian when building ghc? no matter how i quote or escape i can't seem to do it, and i've even been reading the hadrian source code, and it seems it's impossible; please tell me i'm missing something, because i could really do with this to fix a problem with a cross-compile build on openbsd |
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| 2024-10-26 07:38:53 +0200 | <kqr> | Leary, Thanks. That is too complicated. I'm working on a library that will be interfacing with a main project backed by Persistent. However, I want the library to be relatively agnostic of where it is plugged in, i.e. it should not depend on the main project. I was imagining a newtype wrapper around something generic like a ByteString to contain references to entities in the main project, to avoid |
| 2024-10-26 07:38:55 +0200 | <kqr> | what I fear would become complicated generics if I just keep that type unconstrained. I want relatively new Haskell programmers to be able to work on the library in a pinch. |
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| 2024-10-26 08:13:09 +0200 | nitrix | (~nitrix@user/meow/nitrix) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) |
| 2024-10-26 08:13:19 +0200 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2024-10-26 08:13:58 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-10-26 08:15:21 +0200 | nitrix | (~nitrix@user/meow/nitrix) nitrix |
| 2024-10-26 08:15:38 +0200 | alioguzhan | (~Thunderbi@78.173.95.204) |
| 2024-10-26 08:17:03 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-10-26 08:21:24 +0200 | harveypwca | (~harveypwc@2601:246:d080:b40:1889:d9bf:2dd8:b288) HarveyPwca |
| 2024-10-26 08:21:41 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2024-10-26 08:30:46 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 2024-10-26 08:32:25 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
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| 2024-10-26 08:47:47 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
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| 2024-10-26 08:55:56 +0200 | Miroboru | (~myrvoll@178-164-114.82.3p.ntebredband.no) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2024-10-26 08:57:27 +0200 | sawilagar | (~sawilagar@user/sawilagar) sawilagar |
| 2024-10-26 09:00:00 +0200 | caconym | (~caconym@user/caconym) (Quit: bye) |
| 2024-10-26 09:00:14 +0200 | JamesMowery4 | (~JamesMowe@ip98-167-207-182.ph.ph.cox.net) (Quit: Goodbye) |
| 2024-10-26 09:00:31 +0200 | JamesMowery43 | (~JamesMowe@ip98-167-207-182.ph.ph.cox.net) JamesMowery |
| 2024-10-26 09:00:37 +0200 | caconym | (~caconym@user/caconym) caconym |
| 2024-10-26 09:02:13 +0200 | Square | (~Square@user/square) Square |
| 2024-10-26 09:03:10 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
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| 2024-10-26 09:13:14 +0200 | acidjnk_new | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e72cfb93b5372362da7684c9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) acidjnk |
| 2024-10-26 09:18:02 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-10-26 09:21:22 +0200 | AlexNoo | (~AlexNoo@178.34.162.25) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2024-10-26 09:25:36 +0200 | flukiluke | (~m-7humut@2603:c023:c000:6c7e:8945:ad24:9113:a962) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-10-26 09:26:32 +0200 | flukiluke | (~m-7humut@2603:c023:c000:6c7e:8945:ad24:9113:a962) flukiluke |
| 2024-10-26 09:28:01 +0200 | harveypwca | (~harveypwc@2601:246:d080:b40:1889:d9bf:2dd8:b288) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2024-10-26 09:33:25 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-10-26 09:35:48 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2024-10-26 09:36:01 +0200 | euphores | (~SASL_euph@user/euphores) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-10-26 09:37:00 +0200 | euphores | (~SASL_euph@user/euphores) euphores |
| 2024-10-26 09:40:07 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-10-26 09:40:24 +0200 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2024-10-26 09:43:34 +0200 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@2a03:7846:b6eb:101:93ac:a90a:da67:f207) ash3en |
| 2024-10-26 09:44:45 +0200 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life |
| 2024-10-26 09:53:47 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-10-26 09:54:01 +0200 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2024-10-26 09:58:06 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-10-26 10:02:37 +0200 | Miroboru | (~myrvoll@178-164-114.82.3p.ntebredband.no) Miroboru |
| 2024-10-26 10:02:37 +0200 | Pixi` | Pixi |
| 2024-10-26 10:13:36 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
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