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2024-10-26 00:00:33 +0200 <Zer000> Yeah it still crashes instead of catching my exception. I really don't know what I'm doing when it comes to this laziness stuff but I'll try to think where there could be a thunk
2024-10-26 00:01:31 +0200JuanDaugherty(~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) (Quit: JuanDaugherty)
2024-10-26 00:01:34 +0200merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-10-26 00:04:35 +0200 <geekosaur> it's a list, there's a thunk at every index 🙂
2024-10-26 00:04:58 +0200vglfr(~vglfr@2607:fb90:ea85:c41e:ad3:f757:9a54:48e7) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2024-10-26 00:05:24 +0200 <tomsmeding> Zer000: evaluating e.g. a pair to WHNF does not evaluate the components of the pair to WHNF
2024-10-26 00:05:36 +0200 <tomsmeding> make sure you really evaluate all you need to evaluate
2024-10-26 00:05:41 +0200 <Zer000> So I gotta go deeper?
2024-10-26 00:05:44 +0200 <Zer000> OK
2024-10-26 00:05:57 +0200 <geekosaur> Control.Deepseq.rnf in extreme cases
2024-10-26 00:06:10 +0200 <geekosaur> (that's the right module I think?)
2024-10-26 00:06:17 +0200merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2024-10-26 00:06:41 +0200 <geekosaur> just make sure it doesn't have any bottoms or cycles
2024-10-26 00:06:47 +0200 <mauke> did you look at the code?
2024-10-26 00:06:52 +0200 <mauke> the list is [1, 2, 3]
2024-10-26 00:07:28 +0200 <Zer000> mauke, no but that example code DOES work, my actual code does not
2024-10-26 00:07:34 +0200 <Zer000> and the list is built using other pure functions
2024-10-26 00:08:11 +0200 <Zer000> I only posted that snippet to say that tryAny from safe-exceptions can catch that negative index exception
2024-10-26 00:08:15 +0200 <mauke> oh, sorry. I confused myself
2024-10-26 00:08:33 +0200 <mauke> btw, there is displayException
2024-10-26 00:09:25 +0200 <Zer000> how do you even use rnf geekosaur? It results in () always
2024-10-26 00:09:29 +0200 <mauke> which is mostly unrelated, but can be used instead of show
2024-10-26 00:09:40 +0200 <Zer000> oh cool
2024-10-26 00:09:59 +0200 <mauke> evaluate (rnf x)
2024-10-26 00:11:14 +0200 <monochrom> it results in exception if there is an exception.
2024-10-26 00:11:29 +0200 <geekosaur> or ``rnf x `seq` y``
2024-10-26 00:13:25 +0200 <mauke> > [1, 2, 3, error "an exception has occurred", 5] `seq` "all good"
2024-10-26 00:13:26 +0200 <lambdabot> "all good"
2024-10-26 00:13:31 +0200 <mauke> > rnf [1, 2, 3, error "an exception has occurred", 5] `seq` "all good"
2024-10-26 00:13:32 +0200 <lambdabot> error: Variable not in scope: rnf :: [a1] -> a0
2024-10-26 00:13:36 +0200 <mauke> :-(
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2024-10-26 00:13:56 +0200 <mauke> @let import Control.DeepSeq
2024-10-26 00:13:57 +0200 <lambdabot> Defined.
2024-10-26 00:13:59 +0200 <mauke> > rnf [1, 2, 3, error "an exception has occurred", 5] `seq` "all good"
2024-10-26 00:14:00 +0200 <lambdabot> "*Exception: an exception has occurred
2024-10-26 00:15:09 +0200 <Zer000> I see, so you just use it on a separate line in an IO context to see if everything is ok
2024-10-26 00:15:24 +0200 <Zer000> thanks!
2024-10-26 00:17:58 +0200 <geekosaur> it should work even if x and y are the same thing (in my example)
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2024-10-26 00:18:15 +0200 <geekosaur> whereas ``x `seq` x`` is a non-sequitur
2024-10-26 00:18:43 +0200 <geekosaur> ("force `x` to WHNF when `x` is forced to WHNF")
2024-10-26 00:19:07 +0200merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-10-26 00:19:34 +0200 <monochrom> I'll finish when I finish. :)
2024-10-26 00:22:10 +0200 <Zer000> I had a function that was defined in point-free-style and when I made everything there explicit (and extra bangs just in case) it seemed to work.
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