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| 2026-04-22 00:37:37 +0000 | <janus> | @sm swagger2 got fixed :) |
| 2026-04-22 00:37:46 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> nice! |
| 2026-04-22 00:37:54 +0000 | <janus> | i have updated servant-swagger |
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| 2026-04-22 00:45:58 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> dutchie: asum $ fmap ($ x) [f, g] |
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| 2026-04-22 04:10:45 +0000 | <ski> | gentauro : that misuses `Show' :( |
| 2026-04-22 04:11:30 +0000 | <ski> | also, aren't bold and faint supposed to be mutually exclusive, being at the two opposite ends of the scale which has "normal weight" in the middle ? |
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| 2026-04-22 05:44:34 +0000 | <gentauro> | ski: I have no clue |
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| 2026-04-22 05:51:45 +0000 | <gentauro> | ski: but I would say it looks pretty cool -> https://imgur.com/a/gent-looking-cool-X49HD5E (colourblind here so, don't take my word for it) |
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| 2026-04-22 06:30:49 +0000 | <dminuoso> | gentauro: It is quite curious how Haskell on one hand strong advertises catching bugs with a type system, and then at the same time offers bottom in so many ways, even across our standard libraries. |
| 2026-04-22 06:31:07 +0000 | <dminuoso> | But perhaps the case can be made that outright crashing a program is a better behavior than being easily caught. |
| 2026-04-22 06:31:28 +0000 | <dminuoso> | If one caught a bottom, without any knowledge of its provenance, how could one reasonably recover anyway |
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| 2026-04-22 07:29:33 +0000 | <ski> | gentauro : hm, i meant that your `Show' instance ought to be a separate function, named something different, leaving `Show' to be composable with other `Show' instances (try `show' on a `Maybe SelectGraphicRendition', a `Map String SelectGraphicRendition', or a `[SelectGraphicRendition]', e.g.), so you can use `Show' for debugging |
| 2026-04-22 07:30:52 +0000 | <ski> | gentauro : is "Λ-gent" relating to lambda calculus, in some way ? |
| 2026-04-22 07:32:00 +0000 | <ski> | (maybe the upper case lambda refers to System F ? or perhaps some linear algebra, or maybe some other theory ?) |
| 2026-04-22 07:32:45 +0000 | <ski> | gentauro : is the response to the `/help' command, at the prompt, in faint weight ? |
| 2026-04-22 07:34:22 +0000 | misterfish | (~misterfis@046044172198.static.ipv4.heldenvannu.net) misterfish |
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| 2026-04-22 08:02:22 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
| 2026-04-22 08:03:14 +0000 | <gentauro> | ski: the inital lambda term was `^` (SHIFT+6). Cos of the capital lambda. I never understood why we left doing that for: `\ _ -> …` (Haskell, Elm); `fun _ -> …` (OCaml, F#); `function _ -> …` (ML, F#) :-\ |
| 2026-04-22 08:03:31 +0000 | gentauro | `^x.x` looks SO MUCH better :( |
| 2026-04-22 08:04:05 +0000 | <merijn> | Much more annoying to type though |
| 2026-04-22 08:04:28 +0000 | <gentauro> | ski: `Λ-mode>` is bold, input text is "regular" and ouput is "fainted" |
| 2026-04-22 08:05:08 +0000 | <gentauro> | merijn: yeah, but so are Emacs shortkeys. You tend to get used to them ;) |
| 2026-04-22 08:05:40 +0000 | <gentauro> | I will take `^` over `fun …` and `function _` anyday |
| 2026-04-22 08:12:15 +0000 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) (Quit: zzz) |
| 2026-04-22 08:30:49 +0000 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Excess Flood) |
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| 2026-04-22 08:36:11 +0000 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
| 2026-04-22 08:38:10 +0000 | <[exa]> | dminuoso: tbh the bottoms follow the pretty good practice of "if you don't know, crash it loudly" |
| 2026-04-22 08:38:21 +0000 | tnt1 | (~Thunderbi@user/tnt1) tnt1 |
| 2026-04-22 08:38:35 +0000 | <[exa]> | at least I didn't spot one that wouldn't behave so |
| 2026-04-22 08:39:52 +0000 | <[exa]> | gentauro: what would you use the \ for btw |
| 2026-04-22 08:41:23 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> monochrom: the question is more, given foo = undefined being extremely cheap, whether Haskell is more given to this type of top down architecting |
| 2026-04-22 08:41:32 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> i mean it's basically various forms of TyDD anyways |
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| 2026-04-22 08:51:39 +0000 | <merijn> | Liamzee: better use typed holes via "foo = _" then you not only get a crash, but also a line number AND a type |
| 2026-04-22 08:53:15 +0000 | <merijn> | *and* a warning *and* a way to turn any you forgot into compile time errors :p |
| 2026-04-22 08:53:36 +0000 | <gentauro> | [exa]: funny enough, the .NET (with C#) don't anything at all :o: `Select(x => …);` |
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| 2026-04-22 09:20:50 +0000 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@p549cbfb1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) CiaoSen |
| 2026-04-22 09:22:05 +0000 | <ski> | gentauro : mhm, i see. fwiw, `function _ -> ...' is also OCaml, but not SML (which uses `fn _ => ...') |
| 2026-04-22 09:22:57 +0000 | terrorjack | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:271:2d98::2) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
| 2026-04-22 09:23:53 +0000 | <ski> | (you said "ML", which is (nowadays) an umbrella term for all of SML,OCaml,F# (you could also mention Alice ML if you want, and MetaML,MetaOCaml, and the original Caml)) |
| 2026-04-22 09:23:54 +0000 | terrorjack | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:271:2d98::2) terrorjack |
| 2026-04-22 09:26:18 +0000 | walt | ggVGc |
| 2026-04-22 09:26:50 +0000 | misterfish | (~misterfis@046044172198.static.ipv4.heldenvannu.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2026-04-22 09:29:10 +0000 | davl_ | (~davl@207.154.228.18) davl |
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| 2026-04-22 09:31:13 +0000 | tnt1 | (~Thunderbi@user/tnt1) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-04-22 09:43:33 +0000 | misterfish | (~misterfis@84.53.85.146) misterfish |
| 2026-04-22 09:47:30 +0000 | acidjnk_new3 | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e700e5836dc6d0caa2ab8c45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) acidjnk |
| 2026-04-22 09:48:35 +0000 | tnt1 | (~Thunderbi@user/tnt1) tnt1 |
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| 2026-04-22 09:50:42 +0000 | acidjnk_new | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e700e575659a3cc58dc6913c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2026-04-22 09:53:30 +0000 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
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| 2026-04-22 10:02:51 +0000 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah |
| 2026-04-22 10:12:27 +0000 | xff0x | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-04-22 10:21:45 +0000 | puke | (~puke@user/puke) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-04-22 10:22:25 +0000 | nmeum_ | (~nmeum@barium.8pit.net) nmeum |
| 2026-04-22 10:24:47 +0000 | <nmeum_> | I have a question regarding Control.Monad.Catch: I do exception handling via `catch` in the context of a stateful monad `m`, in the exception handler `(e -> m a)` I want to access information about the state of my monad in which the exception occured. however, the exception handler action is executed in the state of the `catch` caller. how do access the error `m` state? |
| 2026-04-22 10:24:50 +0000 | nmeum_ | nmeum |
| 2026-04-22 10:43:11 +0000 | <mauke> | ski: and don't forget YAML |
| 2026-04-22 10:47:16 +0000 | tv | (~tv@user/tv) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-04-22 10:48:50 +0000 | pfc | (~pfc@user/pfc) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2026-04-22 10:50:15 +0000 | divlamir | (~divlamir@user/divlamir) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-04-22 10:50:32 +0000 | divlamir | (~divlamir@user/divlamir) divlamir |