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2026-03-16 00:03:17 +0100 <monochrom> Nice, so PN induces a great question for amortized time!
2026-03-16 00:04:35 +0100 <jreicher> Not following, and I want to!
2026-03-16 00:04:52 +0100 <EvanR> PN becomes more efficient if your code uses right to left language
2026-03-16 00:05:38 +0100st_aldini(~Betterbir@136.48.46.187) (Quit: st_aldini)
2026-03-16 00:05:49 +0100 <monochrom> A single input symbol may trigger an unbounded number of stack pops. This is a great recipe for disaster^W intresting amortized time!
2026-03-16 00:06:43 +0100 <jreicher> You mean RPN can be amortized and PN can't?
2026-03-16 00:06:48 +0100 <monochrom> PN.
2026-03-16 00:07:17 +0100 <jreicher> I'm missing something that's probably obvious, sorry. :) I think I need you to spell it out.
2026-03-16 00:08:45 +0100 <jreicher> Do you mean the question induced is what is the amortized time?
2026-03-16 00:09:08 +0100 <monochrom> The basic amortization example is a stack whose API has push, pop, multipop(n). multipop(n) worst case time is Ω(n), but amortized time stays O(1).
2026-03-16 00:09:29 +0100 <jreicher> Yep, I got you. :) Phew. And I agree, that's nice.
2026-03-16 00:09:36 +0100 <monochrom> PN is then just bells and whistles dressing up that stack API.
2026-03-16 00:09:53 +0100 <jreicher> And easily understandable bells and whistles, which is why it might be a good example.
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2026-03-16 07:35:22 +0100 <gentauro> 21:53 < newmind> sshine: a lot of windows installation in a corporate settings are also managed, so it's not even that they are not interested in it, it's often simply not permitted
2026-03-16 07:35:40 +0100 <gentauro> newmind: and this is why products like `Admin By Request` are used everywhere
2026-03-16 07:36:36 +0100gentaurofun fact, `Admin By Request` was developed entirely by `Lars Sneftrup` (dane)
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2026-03-16 07:40:32 +0100 <gentauro> jreicher, what do you mean by RPN? Reverse Polish Notation?
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2026-03-16 08:09:46 +0100 <gentauro> btw, when jumping back and forth between diff prog-langs, with support for FP (ish), this table from Gustavo Guerra (ovatus old blog) is really nice to have -> https://github.com/ovatsus/ovatsus.github.com/blob/master/blog/2013/11/10/higher-order-list-operat…
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2026-03-16 09:02:45 +0100 <jreicher> gentauro: yes
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2026-03-16 09:41:34 +0100 <gentauro> jreicher: you really need to use terms they understand. Try to explain `classes` to kidos where in their vocabulay class = (school) class :0
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2026-03-16 15:06:05 +0100 <lisbeths> uh I think binary lambda calculus 2 + a memory palace is good for Turing complete mnemonics
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2026-03-16 17:55:22 +0100 <dminuoso> Python strikes again.
2026-03-16 17:55:39 +0100 <dminuoso> django.conf.settings is an attempt at lazyness, but done in a grotesque and buggy way
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2026-03-16 17:56:49 +0100 <dminuoso> While we protect recursion in our thunks with blackhole, django.conf.settings not only allows it, but of course you end up with at scenario where not only can a recursive evaluation end up with a different value, but because they mutate state you end up with scenarios where depending on the order of evaluation you have three possible states that range from "bugged, bugged and buggy, and slightly
2026-03-16 17:56:51 +0100 <dminuoso> less bugged"
2026-03-16 17:57:47 +0100 <dminuoso> Or maybe "recursion" is the wrong term here, reentrance seems more fitting.
2026-03-16 17:57:52 +0100 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> Sounds like great software ngl
2026-03-16 17:59:50 +0100 <[exa]> it's tested by time
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2026-03-16 18:17:46 +0100 <mesaoptimizer> well, by a lot of people you mean
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2026-03-16 19:21:42 +0100 <EvanR> that is what happens when people think what's the big deal it's all 1s and 0s
2026-03-16 19:22:24 +0100 <EvanR> no semantic balls
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