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2026-03-16 00:03:17 +0100 <monochrom> Nice, so PN induces a great question for amortized time!
2026-03-16 00:04:35 +0100 <jreicher> Not following, and I want to!
2026-03-16 00:04:52 +0100 <EvanR> PN becomes more efficient if your code uses right to left language
2026-03-16 00:05:38 +0100st_aldini(~Betterbir@136.48.46.187) (Quit: st_aldini)
2026-03-16 00:05:49 +0100 <monochrom> A single input symbol may trigger an unbounded number of stack pops. This is a great recipe for disaster^W intresting amortized time!
2026-03-16 00:06:43 +0100 <jreicher> You mean RPN can be amortized and PN can't?
2026-03-16 00:06:48 +0100 <monochrom> PN.
2026-03-16 00:07:17 +0100 <jreicher> I'm missing something that's probably obvious, sorry. :) I think I need you to spell it out.
2026-03-16 00:08:45 +0100 <jreicher> Do you mean the question induced is what is the amortized time?
2026-03-16 00:09:08 +0100 <monochrom> The basic amortization example is a stack whose API has push, pop, multipop(n). multipop(n) worst case time is Ω(n), but amortized time stays O(1).
2026-03-16 00:09:29 +0100 <jreicher> Yep, I got you. :) Phew. And I agree, that's nice.
2026-03-16 00:09:36 +0100 <monochrom> PN is then just bells and whistles dressing up that stack API.
2026-03-16 00:09:53 +0100 <jreicher> And easily understandable bells and whistles, which is why it might be a good example.
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2026-03-16 07:35:22 +0100 <gentauro> 21:53 < newmind> sshine: a lot of windows installation in a corporate settings are also managed, so it's not even that they are not interested in it, it's often simply not permitted
2026-03-16 07:35:40 +0100 <gentauro> newmind: and this is why products like `Admin By Request` are used everywhere
2026-03-16 07:36:36 +0100gentaurofun fact, `Admin By Request` was developed entirely by `Lars Sneftrup` (dane)
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2026-03-16 07:40:32 +0100 <gentauro> jreicher, what do you mean by RPN? Reverse Polish Notation?
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2026-03-16 08:09:46 +0100 <gentauro> btw, when jumping back and forth between diff prog-langs, with support for FP (ish), this table from Gustavo Guerra (ovatus old blog) is really nice to have -> https://github.com/ovatsus/ovatsus.github.com/blob/master/blog/2013/11/10/higher-order-list-operat…
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