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2026-02-14 01:15:20 +0100 <yin> is hackage slow or what?
2026-02-14 01:17:00 +0100w00ter(~w00ter@user/w00ter) w00ter
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2026-02-14 01:17:51 +0100 <haskellbridge> <maerwald> Always
2026-02-14 01:17:58 +0100califax(~califax@user/califx) califx
2026-02-14 01:18:08 +0100marinelli(~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/marinelli) marinelli
2026-02-14 01:18:11 +0100 <geekosaur> auto-status says it's having problems
2026-02-14 01:18:13 +0100ChaiTRex(~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex
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2026-02-14 01:21:33 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> flora.pm too, at the same time, unfortunately. You can still view haddocks at stackage though.
2026-02-14 01:24:55 +0100 <geekosaur> sadly, it's causing a CI fail for me
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2026-02-14 01:28:12 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> flora's outage started 8 hours ago, and the problem with hackage's haddocks half an hour ago. I guess they're not related.
2026-02-14 01:28:35 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> the rest of hackage seems ok
2026-02-14 01:29:31 +0100 <Clint> i have sporadic timeouts
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2026-02-14 17:54:15 +0100 <larsivi> Good afternoon! Newbie here trying to do something like ceiling(x / y), where x and y are Integers or so. This gives me RealFrac woes. Why doesn't this work out-of-the-box?
2026-02-14 17:55:00 +0100 <haskellbridge> <alexfmpe> What do you expect the type and value of, say, 3/2 to be?
2026-02-14 17:55:17 +0100 <haskellbridge> <alexfmpe> If you want integer division, use `div` instead of /
2026-02-14 17:55:58 +0100 <haskellbridge> <alexfmpe> If you want 1.5, convert the arguments to Float or Double or Rational or Scientific or so
2026-02-14 17:56:21 +0100 <mauke> > let { ceilDiv x y = (x + y - 1) `div` y } in 3 `ceilDiv` 2
2026-02-14 17:56:23 +0100 <lambdabot> 2
2026-02-14 17:56:49 +0100 <haskellbridge> <alexfmpe> Or keep thjngs polymorphic with Integral/RealFrac and make use sites decide the type
2026-02-14 17:57:01 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2026-02-14 17:57:11 +0100 <haskellbridge> <alexfmpe> What do you expect the semantics and type of, say, 3/2 to be?
2026-02-14 17:58:36 +0100 <larsivi> I want 1.5 - compiler tells me the result is Fractional
2026-02-14 17:58:55 +0100 <mauke> that's not a ceiling
2026-02-14 17:58:56 +0100 <larsivi> Of course, mauke's solution will also work for me
2026-02-14 17:59:22 +0100smiesner(b0cf5acf8c@user/smiesner) smiesner
2026-02-14 18:00:07 +0100 <larsivi> for 3/2 I want 2 to be the answer, 1.5 was a reply to the alex question above
2026-02-14 18:00:28 +0100 <mauke> > realToFrac 2
2026-02-14 18:00:29 +0100 <lambdabot> 2.0
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2026-02-14 18:01:40 +0100 <tomsmeding> larsivi: if you want to go via a floating point number, you'll have to explicitly convert first (using realToFrac as mauke just posted)
2026-02-14 18:01:58 +0100 <tomsmeding> Haskell does not automatically coerce numeric types like Javascript :)
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2026-02-14 18:04:05 +0100 <larsivi> I get that tomsmeding :)
2026-02-14 18:04:35 +0100 <tomsmeding> well, this answers why 'ceiling (x / y)' does not work out-of-the-box :)
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2026-02-14 18:09:48 +0100 <larsivi> Indeed :) I did also misunderstand the compiler error - I thought it was the result of the division that didn't typecheck, but it was the division itself. Thanks all!
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2026-02-14 18:12:11 +0100 <tomsmeding> ah :)
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2026-02-14 18:53:23 +0100 <monochrom> I want 3/2 to be rational, or polymorphic over fields.
2026-02-14 18:54:21 +0100 <monochrom> Actually put it this way: polymorphic over fields, ideally. (Pun!)
2026-02-14 18:56:56 +0100 <fgarcia> would import Data.Ratio work? then 3 % 2
2026-02-14 18:57:29 +0100 <monochrom> I am too lazy to import that. I use "3/2 :: Rational". :)
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2026-02-14 20:38:28 +0100 <probie> Dumb question: what's the correct way to do `x += y` with a mutable unboxed vector such that it'll generate SIMD instructions (when using the LLVM backend)?
2026-02-14 20:43:55 +0100 <probie> If I just do something like `V.imapM_ (\ix a -> (a +) <$> V.read y ix) x` will it work?
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2026-02-14 20:49:35 +0100 <tomsmeding> probie: if you're talking about LLVM, then the only real answer is to try it :p
2026-02-14 20:49:56 +0100 <tomsmeding> GHC will not generate SIMD instructions here, but if the work is suitably arranged, LLVM will do it
2026-02-14 20:50:15 +0100 <tomsmeding> will the work be suitably arranged? That depends on the vagaries of the code generator, as well as the implementation of V.imapM_
2026-02-14 20:53:27 +0100 <tomsmeding> I wonder if the maintainer of the playground could be bribed to make -fllvm work there.
2026-02-14 20:55:11 +0100 <int-e> subtle
2026-02-14 20:56:56 +0100 <tomsmeding> seems LLVM 12 will do for 9.0 up to and including 9.8
2026-02-14 20:57:35 +0100 <tomsmeding> and 13-17 for 9.10 and higher
2026-02-14 20:58:30 +0100 <tomsmeding> no that's not quite right
2026-02-14 21:00:09 +0100 <int-e> Hmm, https://minoki.github.io/posts/2025-01-13-ghc-simd.html looks like a decent overview of the state of the SIMD primitives in GHC?
2026-02-14 21:00:37 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-02-14 21:00:47 +0100 <int-e> `vector` makes at least one SIMD-unfriendly design choice though: `drop` is O(1) so there's no alignment guaranteee beyond the primitive data type for unboxed vectors.
2026-02-14 21:04:33 +0100 <probie> now how do I tell GHC where my llvm is...
2026-02-14 21:04:52 +0100 <tomsmeding> it seems it will just look for `opt` in $PATH
2026-02-14 21:05:01 +0100 <tomsmeding> though perhaps it looks for llvm-config first
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2026-02-14 21:05:16 +0100 <tomsmeding> generally one tells programs of LLVM by ensuring its llvm-config executable is in $PATH
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2026-02-14 21:06:09 +0100infinity0(~infinity0@pwned.gg) infinity0
2026-02-14 21:06:21 +0100 <probie> the problem is that the `opt` there is the wrong version. I'm just going to brute force my way through and make symlinks to the right ones in a folder and the stick that folder on my path
2026-02-14 21:06:54 +0100 <tomsmeding> probie: https://git.tomsmeding.com/pathenv/tree/pathenv ?
2026-02-14 21:07:44 +0100 <probie> It's good to know I'm not the only one to have that idea
2026-02-14 21:09:53 +0100 <int-e> There are half a dozen -pgm* flags for the various llvm tools ghc might use. -pgmlo is for `opt`.
2026-02-14 21:10:26 +0100 <int-e> (And I see no indication that it can interrogate llvm-config)
2026-02-14 21:11:04 +0100 <tomsmeding> int-e: https://play.haskell.org/saved/yNy86HlS this output suggest it does _something_
2026-02-14 21:11:14 +0100 <tomsmeding> apart from just calling `opt`, that is
2026-02-14 21:12:11 +0100caubert(~caubert@user/caubert) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2026-02-14 21:13:04 +0100 <tomsmeding> this seems to be the compatibility matrix https://paste.tomsmeding.com/NJhIVIyh
2026-02-14 21:14:11 +0100 <int-e> tomsmeding: AFAICS it tries llc -version (or whatever -pgmlc is)
2026-02-14 21:14:18 +0100 <tomsmeding> lame
2026-02-14 21:14:58 +0100 <geekosaur> I think you can specify a path in the settings file?
2026-02-14 21:15:13 +0100caubert(~caubert@user/caubert) caubert
2026-02-14 21:15:14 +0100 <geekosaur> $(ghc --print-libdir)/settings
2026-02-14 21:15:32 +0100 <geekosaur> "LLVM opt command" (and similar for llc)
2026-02-14 21:16:26 +0100 <int-e> tomsmeding: https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/blob/master/compiler/GHC/SysTools/Tasks.hs#L341-350 (and beyond)
2026-02-14 21:16:55 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-02-14 21:17:44 +0100 <tomsmeding> I see
2026-02-14 21:17:56 +0100 <int-e> (Rather than digging into the history I'll just assume this hasn't changed recently except for bumping versions.)
2026-02-14 21:18:07 +0100s3np41(~s3np41@078088254000.unknown.vectranet.pl)
2026-02-14 21:18:17 +0100 <tomsmeding> do you happen to know how critical those version upper bounds are, in GHC's LLVM support?
2026-02-14 21:18:38 +0100 <int-e> I don't
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2026-02-14 21:22:08 +0100 <int-e> Hmm. For me, the baked in commands (from the settings file) have a version, e.g. llc-14 for ghc-9.10.3 and llc-19 for ghc-9.12.2. I wonder what the binary distributions put there... ghc --info | grep LLVM will show that info without you having to go looking for the settings file.
2026-02-14 21:23:07 +0100 <geekosaur> they can be pretty critical but I don't think it's critical for recent versions
2026-02-14 21:23:31 +0100 <geekosaur> there was a point where `opt` parameters changed and ghc didn't know how tgo call newer versions correctly
2026-02-14 21:25:54 +0100 <geekosaur> also I mentioned the settings file bvecause I saw a claim in backscroll that the correct llvm version wasn't on their PATH, which means a settings file edit to point to the correct one
2026-02-14 21:26:38 +0100ouilemur(~jgmerritt@user/ouilemur) ouilemur
2026-02-14 21:28:52 +0100 <probie> It's not giving me SIMD instruction :'(
2026-02-14 21:29:02 +0100 <probie> I wonder if it's the use of `read` instead of `unsafeRead`?
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2026-02-14 21:34:44 +0100 <tomsmeding> possibly, yes
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2026-02-14 21:43:03 +0100 <[exa]> probie: btw why not make a small FFI to a relatively portable C?
2026-02-14 21:43:41 +0100 <[exa]> (man, can we FFI to futhark?)
2026-02-14 21:43:46 +0100Pixi(~Pixi@user/pixi) Pixi
2026-02-14 21:44:08 +0100 <tomsmeding> [exa]: https://gitlab.com/Gusten_Isfeldt/futhask
2026-02-14 21:44:27 +0100 <tomsmeding> (never used it)
2026-02-14 21:45:36 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) peterbecich
2026-02-14 21:45:43 +0100 <[exa]> ok not bad :)
2026-02-14 21:49:55 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-02-14 21:52:13 +0100 <probie> [exa]: Because I shouldn't need to
2026-02-14 21:53:21 +0100caubert(~caubert@user/caubert) caubert
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2026-02-14 21:56:12 +0100 <[exa]> probie: I find it better than relying on the compiler accidentaly noticing that I want SIMD (but yeah it's still :( )
2026-02-14 21:56:37 +0100 <tomsmeding> GHC has SIMD primops, but they only work with LLVM
2026-02-14 21:56:50 +0100 <tomsmeding> very recently IIRC some of them started working on NCG too
2026-02-14 21:56:55 +0100 <[exa]> probie: btw try to unroll the loop manually, that might give llvm enough decisive force
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2026-02-14 21:57:03 +0100 <probie> I don't think it's LLVM's problem here; GHC is just not generating good code https://paste.tomsmeding.com/8ZYY5Pka
2026-02-14 21:58:11 +0100 <tomsmeding> why are there so many loads for only two stores? I assume this is different code than you posted originally?
2026-02-14 21:58:23 +0100caubert(~caubert@user/caubert) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2026-02-14 21:59:21 +0100 <[exa]> that looks like a lot of indirection
2026-02-14 21:59:26 +0100 <probie> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/NRYKh5Fj
2026-02-14 22:00:09 +0100L29Ah(~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2026-02-14 22:00:22 +0100 <[exa]> probie: you have unboxed or primitive vectors?
2026-02-14 22:01:42 +0100 <tomsmeding> probie: if it's easy to paste the optimised LLVM IR, that would make it easier to see what's going on, probably
2026-02-14 22:02:03 +0100 <int-e> IOVector is boxed.
2026-02-14 22:02:09 +0100 <tomsmeding> there are a bunch of loop-invariant loads here that I expect llvm to lift out
2026-02-14 22:02:22 +0100 <EvanR> last I heard ghc didn't have SIMD support
2026-02-14 22:02:35 +0100 <EvanR> oh, LLVM
2026-02-14 22:02:52 +0100 <tomsmeding> int-e: every mutable vector variant has its own definition of the "IOVector" type synonym
2026-02-14 22:02:59 +0100 <[exa]> int-e: afaik you can import the one from the .unboxed.mutable or .primitive.mutable module
2026-02-14 22:03:10 +0100 <int-e> tomsmeding: gah
2026-02-14 22:03:28 +0100 <probie> int-e: it's not I omitted the `import qualified Data.Vector.Unboxed.Mutable as V`. Weirdly, I get slightly better llvm if I use `Storable` instead of `Unboxed`
2026-02-14 22:03:42 +0100 <int-e> Right. I should've known that.
2026-02-14 22:03:48 +0100 <tomsmeding> in general, Storable is more straightforward
2026-02-14 22:03:56 +0100 <tomsmeding> but in theory, either should work here
2026-02-14 22:04:08 +0100 <fgarcia> llvm goes to at least 23 now. it could be the SIMD changes haven't made it down
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2026-02-14 22:06:12 +0100 <[exa]> probie: man, you're introducing a data dependency there, it can't simd
2026-02-14 22:06:45 +0100 <tomsmeding> [exa]: isn't this code just zipWith (+)
2026-02-14 22:06:50 +0100 <tomsmeding> oh no
2026-02-14 22:06:57 +0100 <[exa]> it's writing back to the original vector
2026-02-14 22:07:02 +0100 <tomsmeding> yeah probie ^
2026-02-14 22:07:15 +0100 <tomsmeding> lol
2026-02-14 22:07:34 +0100caubert(~caubert@user/caubert) caubert
2026-02-14 22:07:50 +0100 <[exa]> probie: try this https://paste.tomsmeding.com/GjpwizwI
2026-02-14 22:08:28 +0100 <[exa]> (edited right into pastebin so didn't try it but you see the point I guess)
2026-02-14 22:08:49 +0100 <tomsmeding> with this being Word8 you may even want to unroll 32x
2026-02-14 22:09:11 +0100 <tomsmeding> or at least 16x to use 128bit SSE4 registers
2026-02-14 22:09:20 +0100 <[exa]> oh
2026-02-14 22:09:27 +0100 <[exa]> ok I somehow hoped this is at least floats
2026-02-14 22:09:30 +0100 <tomsmeding> but 4 should at least get you different assembly
2026-02-14 22:09:35 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-02-14 22:09:40 +0100 <[exa]> are there SIMD instructions for chars?
2026-02-14 22:09:48 +0100 <tomsmeding> yes
2026-02-14 22:10:02 +0100[exa]learned today
2026-02-14 22:10:17 +0100 <tomsmeding> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/intrinsics-guide/index.html#text=epi8
2026-02-14 22:10:29 +0100 <tomsmeding> _mm_add_epi8 is the one you want here (paddb)
2026-02-14 22:11:05 +0100 <tomsmeding> or the _mm256 version, or _mm512 if you want to use your juicy AVX512
2026-02-14 22:11:39 +0100 <tomsmeding> think about that, 64 adds with 1-cycle latency
2026-02-14 22:11:56 +0100 <[exa]> oh these are the epi8 instructions from the intrinsic guide that I ignored everytime
2026-02-14 22:12:10 +0100 <tomsmeding> epi is integer stuff
2026-02-14 22:12:20 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2026-02-14 22:12:51 +0100 <tomsmeding> and apparently it can even do two of those _mm256_add_epi8 instructions in one cycle, by the CPI of 0.5
2026-02-14 22:13:28 +0100 <tomsmeding> (yes, the throughput label is misleading; I checked that a div_pd has 4 there and add_pd 0.5, so indeed it's CPI = 1/throughput)
2026-02-14 22:13:46 +0100 <probie> There isn't really a data dependency though, since memory is never read again after being written