| 2026-01-21 00:04:34 +0100 | karenw | (~karenw@user/karenw) (Quit: Deep into that darkness peering...) |
| 2026-01-21 00:05:01 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 00:10:19 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 00:14:19 +0100 | tjbc | (~tjbc@user/fliife) fliife |
| 2026-01-21 00:15:10 +0100 | newmind | (~newmind@91-133-90-252.dyn.cablelink.at) |
| 2026-01-21 00:15:53 +0100 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-82-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-21 00:16:03 +0100 | mange | (~mange@user/mange) mange |
| 2026-01-21 00:16:06 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-82-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2026-01-21 00:16:21 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 00:18:35 +0100 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 00:20:40 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-29ac-8d41-f550-2a4f-1a91.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2026-01-21 00:20:45 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 00:20:52 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-29ac-8d41-f550-2a4f-1a91.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2026-01-21 00:26:55 +0100 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) vanishingideal |
| 2026-01-21 00:29:20 +0100 | newmind | (~newmind@91-133-90-252.dyn.cablelink.at) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2026-01-21 00:31:52 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 00:33:49 +0100 | myme | (~myme@2a01:799:d5e:5f00:5f14:dcc1:b627:62ff) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 00:35:54 +0100 | myme | (~myme@2a01:799:d5e:5f00:5fcd:f459:869a:1345) myme |
| 2026-01-21 00:36:58 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 00:38:43 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 00:47:39 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 00:50:50 +0100 | myxos | (~myxos@174-18-58-141.tcso.qwest.net) myxokephale |
| 2026-01-21 00:52:22 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 00:53:07 +0100 | m_a_r_k | (~m_a_r_k@archlinux/support/mark) m_a_r_k |
| 2026-01-21 01:03:03 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 01:07:25 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 01:07:41 +0100 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@85-156-32-207.elisa-laajakaista.fi) Tuplanolla |
| 2026-01-21 01:10:00 +0100 | tremon | (~tremon@83.80.159.219) (Quit: getting boxed in) |
| 2026-01-21 01:10:23 +0100 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) Sgeo |
| 2026-01-21 01:16:10 +0100 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex |
| 2026-01-21 01:18:32 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 01:24:01 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 01:34:19 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 01:35:54 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-29ac-8d41-f550-2a4f-1a91.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2026-01-21 01:36:02 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-29ac-8d41-f550-2a4f-1a91.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2026-01-21 01:38:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 01:43:51 +0100 | deadnode666 | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) deadnode666 |
| 2026-01-21 01:44:23 +0100 | <jackdk> | @pl \f -> getCompose . lens (Compose . f) |
| 2026-01-21 01:44:23 +0100 | <lambdabot> | (getCompose .) . lens . (Compose .) |
| 2026-01-21 01:44:39 +0100 | <jackdk> | @botsnack |
| 2026-01-21 01:44:39 +0100 | <lambdabot> | :) |
| 2026-01-21 01:50:08 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 01:54:47 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 01:55:06 +0100 | zlqrvx | (~zlqrvx@user/zlqrvx) zlqrvx |
| 2026-01-21 01:55:21 +0100 | Psychotic1 | (~Psychotic@2600:1007:b0a1:d86:de59:77c5:f4e1:331c) |
| 2026-01-21 02:01:53 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-29ac-8d41-f550-2a4f-1a91.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2026-01-21 02:02:16 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-29ac-8d41-f550-2a4f-1a91.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2026-01-21 02:02:59 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) peterbecich |
| 2026-01-21 02:03:04 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@ai083101.d.east.v6connect.net) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 02:04:46 +0100 | vidak | (~vidak@2407:e400:7800:2c01:d0be:76f8:cc84:bd4a) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2026-01-21 02:05:33 +0100 | vidak | (~vidak@210.1.208.15) vidak |
| 2026-01-21 02:05:49 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 02:08:03 +0100 | vidak | (~vidak@210.1.208.15) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-01-21 02:10:42 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 02:17:39 +0100 | vidak | (~vidak@210.1.208.15) vidak |
| 2026-01-21 02:21:35 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 02:22:24 +0100 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 02:26:54 +0100 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@85-156-32-207.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Quit: Leaving.) |
| 2026-01-21 02:26:54 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 02:27:45 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 02:32:27 +0100 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-01-21 02:32:40 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 02:34:37 +0100 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) califx |
| 2026-01-21 02:43:26 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 02:44:27 +0100 | DetourNe- | (~DetourNet@user/DetourNetworkUK) DetourNetworkUK |
| 2026-01-21 02:45:26 +0100 | DetourNetworkUK | (~DetourNet@user/DetourNetworkUK) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-21 02:46:12 +0100 | omidmash2 | (~omidmash@user/omidmash) omidmash |
| 2026-01-21 02:46:46 +0100 | DetourNe- | DetourNetworkUK |
| 2026-01-21 02:47:58 +0100 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) Lycurgus |
| 2026-01-21 02:48:32 +0100 | omidmash | (~omidmash@user/omidmash) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 02:48:32 +0100 | omidmash2 | omidmash |
| 2026-01-21 02:48:48 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-29ac-8d41-f550-2a4f-1a91.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2026-01-21 02:49:08 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-29ac-8d41-f550-2a4f-1a91.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2026-01-21 02:50:10 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 02:54:37 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 02:58:17 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) |
| 2026-01-21 03:01:08 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-82-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-21 03:01:30 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 03:03:52 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-82-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2026-01-21 03:04:02 +0100 | <chromoblob> | hehe, "botsnack" is neat |
| 2026-01-21 03:06:17 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 03:11:32 +0100 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) (Quit: alsoknownas.renjuan.org ( juan@acm.org )) |
| 2026-01-21 03:11:57 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-82-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-21 03:14:29 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-82-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2026-01-21 03:15:02 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) peterbecich |
| 2026-01-21 03:17:16 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 03:19:10 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-29ac-8d41-f550-2a4f-1a91.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2026-01-21 03:19:34 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-29ac-8d41-f550-2a4f-1a91.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2026-01-21 03:22:07 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 03:22:32 +0100 | califax_ | (~califax@user/califx) califx |
| 2026-01-21 03:23:25 +0100 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) (Quit: ZNC 1.10.1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2026-01-21 03:23:50 +0100 | califax_ | califax |
| 2026-01-21 03:25:37 +0100 | califax_ | (~califax@user/califx) califx |
| 2026-01-21 03:26:40 +0100 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-01-21 03:26:51 +0100 | califax_ | califax |
| 2026-01-21 03:33:04 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 03:33:12 +0100 | DetourNe- | (DetourNetw@user/DetourNetworkUK) DetourNetworkUK |
| 2026-01-21 03:33:57 +0100 | DetourNetworkUK | (~DetourNet@user/DetourNetworkUK) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-21 03:34:41 +0100 | ttybitnik | (~ttybitnik@user/wolper) (Quit: Fading out...) |
| 2026-01-21 03:35:28 +0100 | DetourNe- | DetourNetworkUK |
| 2026-01-21 03:36:09 +0100 | acidjnk | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e717193125fb1aa3ce6499b2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 03:36:37 +0100 | sajenim | (~sajenim@user/sajenim) sajenim |
| 2026-01-21 03:38:07 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 03:45:19 +0100 | sus03 | (zero@user/zeromomentum) (Quit: the lounge - https://webirc.envs.net) |
| 2026-01-21 03:46:48 +0100 | sus03 | (zero@user/zeromomentum) zeromomentum |
| 2026-01-21 03:48:49 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 03:49:38 +0100 | danz13817 | (~danza@user/danza) danza |
| 2026-01-21 03:50:22 +0100 | danza | (~danza@user/danza) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-21 03:51:37 +0100 | Psychotic1 | (~Psychotic@2600:1007:b0a1:d86:de59:77c5:f4e1:331c) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 03:51:38 +0100 | sus03 | (zero@user/zeromomentum) (Client Quit) |
| 2026-01-21 03:53:10 +0100 | sus03 | (zero@user/zeromomentum) zeromomentum |
| 2026-01-21 03:53:49 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 03:57:20 +0100 | omidmash | (~omidmash@user/omidmash) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
| 2026-01-21 03:59:28 +0100 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 04:00:49 +0100 | omidmash | (~omidmash@user/omidmash) omidmash |
| 2026-01-21 04:04:37 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 04:07:18 +0100 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-01-21 04:07:21 +0100 | ec | (~ec@gateway/tor-sasl/ec) ec |
| 2026-01-21 04:07:30 +0100 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) califx |
| 2026-01-21 04:08:28 +0100 | jmcantrell_ | jmcantrell |
| 2026-01-21 04:09:25 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 04:09:29 +0100 | tv | (~tv@user/tv) (Quit: derp) |
| 2026-01-21 04:09:34 +0100 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
| 2026-01-21 04:10:00 +0100 | tv | (~tv@user/tv) tv |
| 2026-01-21 04:11:12 +0100 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex |
| 2026-01-21 04:16:11 +0100 | deadnode666_ | (~zod@user/deadnode666) deadnode666 |
| 2026-01-21 04:18:01 +0100 | vidak | (~vidak@210.1.208.15) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-21 04:18:56 +0100 | vidak | (~vidak@2407:e400:7800:2c01:d0be:76f8:cc84:bd4a) vidak |
| 2026-01-21 04:19:59 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) housemate |
| 2026-01-21 04:20:24 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 04:21:39 +0100 | deadnode666_ | (~zod@user/deadnode666) (Quit: <<<<<--------!!!!!!!!!) |
| 2026-01-21 04:24:40 +0100 | deadnode666 | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-01-21 04:25:13 +0100 | deadnode666 | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) deadnode666 |
| 2026-01-21 04:25:31 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 04:25:34 +0100 | deadnode666 | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) (Client Quit) |
| 2026-01-21 04:26:04 +0100 | deadnode666 | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) deadnode666 |
| 2026-01-21 04:26:07 +0100 | hellwolf | (~user@7181-6760-b532-3f9c-0f00-4d40-07d0-2001.sta.estpak.ee) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 04:26:15 +0100 | sus03 | (zero@user/zeromomentum) (Quit: the lounge - https://webirc.envs.net) |
| 2026-01-21 04:27:42 +0100 | sus03 | (zero@user/zeromomentum) zeromomentum |
| 2026-01-21 04:29:10 +0100 | hellwolf | (~user@4cde-2438-8978-87b1-0f00-4d40-07d0-2001.sta.estpak.ee) hellwolf |
| 2026-01-21 04:36:11 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 04:40:27 +0100 | deadnode666_ | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) deadnode666 |
| 2026-01-21 04:40:32 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 04:43:39 +0100 | spew | (~spew@user/spew) (Quit: nyaa~) |
| 2026-01-21 04:44:25 +0100 | deadnode666 | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 04:44:58 +0100 | deadnode666_ | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) (Client Quit) |
| 2026-01-21 04:45:10 +0100 | deadnode666 | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) deadnode666 |
| 2026-01-21 04:49:27 +0100 | DetourNe- | (~DetourNet@user/DetourNetworkUK) DetourNetworkUK |
| 2026-01-21 04:50:12 +0100 | DetourNetworkUK | (DetourNetw@user/DetourNetworkUK) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-21 04:51:31 +0100 | deadnode666 | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) (Quit: <<<<<--------!!!!!!!!!) |
| 2026-01-21 04:51:37 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 04:51:40 +0100 | DetourNe- | DetourNetworkUK |
| 2026-01-21 04:51:44 +0100 | deadnode666 | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) deadnode666 |
| 2026-01-21 04:52:19 +0100 | rekahsoft | (~rekahsoft@70.51.99.245) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-01-21 04:57:01 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 04:58:57 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 04:59:58 +0100 | deadnode666 | (~deadnode6@user/deadnode666) (Quit: <<<<<--------!!!!!!!!!) |
| 2026-01-21 05:07:13 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 05:07:26 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 05:12:03 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 05:12:23 +0100 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 05:20:07 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) |
| 2026-01-21 05:23:12 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 05:29:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 05:41:15 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 05:46:13 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 05:51:49 +0100 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) (Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1) |
| 2026-01-21 05:54:54 +0100 | jmcantrell_ | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) jmcantrell |
| 2026-01-21 05:57:02 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 05:59:41 +0100 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2026-01-21 06:01:21 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 06:06:51 +0100 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) vanishingideal |
| 2026-01-21 06:07:32 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |
| 2026-01-21 06:08:55 +0100 | troydm | (~troydm@user/troydm) troydm |
| 2026-01-21 06:10:31 +0100 | DetourNetworkUK | (~DetourNet@user/DetourNetworkUK) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 06:12:24 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-21 06:13:42 +0100 | DetourNetworkUK | (~DetourNet@user/DetourNetworkUK) DetourNetworkUK |
| 2026-01-21 06:15:08 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2026-01-21 13:07:55 +0100 | <gentauro> | Do we have a better (history/tree/timeline) than the "O'Reilly History of Programming Languages": https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~gpenn/csc324/PLhistory.pdf (I would assume that Haskell was born from Miranda) |
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| 2026-01-21 15:18:37 +0100 | <danz66945> | the history of Haskell is complex. Several recent episodes of the interlude treat about them |
| 2026-01-21 15:25:45 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> It was supposed to be union of many competing pure functional languages but among them Miranda is the only one of any prominence. |
| 2026-01-21 15:26:32 +0100 | raym | (~ray@user/raym) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 15:27:51 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> In fact the only reason it wasn't called Miranda+ or something is because Miranda's author wanted to keep control over his creation. |
| 2026-01-21 15:37:22 +0100 | Everything | (~Everythin@172-232-54-192.ip.linodeusercontent.com) Everything |
| 2026-01-21 15:37:49 +0100 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 15:40:42 +0100 | <gentauro> | danz66945: yeah, that's why I'm looking for a tree-historgram. I'm guessing that Haskell was inspired by many other PL, not just Miranda. But, some key concepts from Miranda, are intrinsic in Haskell |
| 2026-01-21 15:41:29 +0100 | <danz66945> | not sure how miranda related to ML |
| 2026-01-21 15:42:17 +0100 | danz66945 | also not sure how haskell looked out at the beginning, without monads |
| 2026-01-21 15:42:32 +0100 | Enrico63 | (~Enrico63@host-79-42-228-73.retail.telecomitalia.it) Enrico63 |
| 2026-01-21 15:42:36 +0100 | danz66945 | (~danza@user/danza) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-01-21 15:42:51 +0100 | danza | (~danza@user/danza) danza |
| 2026-01-21 15:45:03 +0100 | Milan_Vanca | (~milan@user/Milan-Vanca:32634) Milan_Vanca |
| 2026-01-21 15:46:52 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> iirc before monads it could use either dialogues or continuations. |
| 2026-01-21 15:48:50 +0100 | <danza> | continuations would make sense. Not familiar with dialogues |
| 2026-01-21 15:49:34 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-93-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
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| 2026-01-21 15:52:29 +0100 | <dutchie> | is that the thing where you do main :: [InputStuff] -> [OutputStuff] |
| 2026-01-21 15:52:43 +0100 | <lortabac> | it was a while ago so I may be misremembering something, but I think this Zurihac talk is relevant: https://youtu.be/Xnvj61qkg7c?si=ieVmvSgUoPJsh63J |
| 2026-01-21 15:53:02 +0100 | tremon | (~tremon@83.80.159.219) tremon |
| 2026-01-21 15:53:22 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> ye it takes list of inputs and returns list of outputs |
| 2026-01-21 15:53:50 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> since what exactly it takes and returns isn't fixed in types entire thing could go out of sync very easily |
| 2026-01-21 15:54:25 +0100 | <danza> | ^^; |
| 2026-01-21 15:55:27 +0100 | <danza> | those were tough times for haskellers :) |
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| 2026-01-21 16:07:08 +0100 | Digitteknohippie | (~user@user/digit) Digit |
| 2026-01-21 16:07:49 +0100 | Digit | (~user@user/digit) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-21 16:14:18 +0100 | vidak | (~vidak@2407:e400:7800:2c01:d0be:76f8:cc84:bd4a) vidak |
| 2026-01-21 16:19:09 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) () |
| 2026-01-21 16:20:31 +0100 | danza | (~danza@user/danza) (Quit: got to go) |
| 2026-01-21 16:25:13 +0100 | Googulator64 | Googulator |
| 2026-01-21 16:27:11 +0100 | <gentauro> | lortabac: no lambda and no let :o https://youtu.be/Xnvj61qkg7c?t=2051 (34:11 ish) |
| 2026-01-21 16:28:48 +0100 | <lortabac> | wow |
| 2026-01-21 16:29:05 +0100 | <lortabac> | I need to watch that talk again |
| 2026-01-21 16:33:16 +0100 | <lortabac> | that being said, Prolog doesn't have local predicates either. It's slightly inconvenient but not a showstopper |
| 2026-01-21 16:34:03 +0100 | <gentauro> | blc (binary lambda calculus) from John Tromp is also very very simplistic xD |
| 2026-01-21 16:35:05 +0100 | <gentauro> | «Note added September 18, 2025: I thank John Tromp for suggesting several significant improvements to the original version of this» -> https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2025/09/the-ruliology-of-lambdas/ |
| 2026-01-21 16:38:49 +0100 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) (Quit: Bye!) |
| 2026-01-21 16:43:49 +0100 | <lortabac> | I don't know what "ruliology" means, but this looks both scary and fascinating at the same time |
| 2026-01-21 16:49:24 +0100 | <int-e> | wolfram is the best crank |
| 2026-01-21 16:51:05 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) (Quit: https://ineedsomeacidtocalmmedown.space/) |
| 2026-01-21 16:58:10 +0100 | <__monty__> | Looks like it's the study of abstract rules. Which makes sense to me coming from someone who started out looking at cellular automata. |
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| 2026-01-21 17:18:10 +0100 | Digitteknohippie | Digit |
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| 2026-01-21 17:31:38 +0100 | <gentauro> | lortabac: https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2026/01/what-is-ruliology/ ;) |
| 2026-01-21 17:32:00 +0100 | <lortabac> | thanks |
| 2026-01-21 17:35:20 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
| 2026-01-21 17:36:14 +0100 | <EvanR> | ruliology... ok you can invent whatever you want but |
| 2026-01-21 17:36:33 +0100 | <EvanR> | just like ruleology is easier to say |
| 2026-01-21 17:36:38 +0100 | <EvanR> | and more obvious |
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| 2026-01-21 19:15:25 +0100 | danza | (~danza@user/danza) danza |
| 2026-01-21 19:18:41 +0100 | <probie> | Surely it'd should be kanonology |
| 2026-01-21 19:18:48 +0100 | <probie> | s/it'd/it/ |
| 2026-01-21 19:19:51 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | Hello guyz. I found another strange issue, "cabal install alex" and I can see it in user's bin dir. "cabal list --installed" and it's not there? |
| 2026-01-21 19:21:33 +0100 | <gentauro> | Milan_Vanca: have you looked at `~/.cabal/bin`? |
| 2026-01-21 19:21:41 +0100 | <gentauro> | they normally go there unless you provide another path |
| 2026-01-21 19:21:59 +0100 | <danza> | they say thay can see it |
| 2026-01-21 19:22:25 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | gentauro: Yes it is there.. but "cabal list --installed" does not show them, but it should as I use install so it should list installed right? |
| 2026-01-21 19:22:42 +0100 | <danza> | maybe you changed dir Milan_Vanca? Cabal's scope varies depending on which package one is on |
| 2026-01-21 19:22:43 +0100 | <int-e> | cabal list --installed probably only lists libraries |
| 2026-01-21 19:22:46 +0100 | <int-e> | ? |
| 2026-01-21 19:22:57 +0100 | <gentauro> | Milan_Vanca: if `~/.cabal/bin` is in your PATH, then you should be able to exec and do `which alex` :) |
| 2026-01-21 19:23:28 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | int-e: So the problem is it is executable and not lib? |
| 2026-01-21 19:23:57 +0100 | <int-e> | yeah, it's not a "package" (not in the package database) |
| 2026-01-21 19:24:00 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | danza: No that's not it :) I am in the same dir. |
| 2026-01-21 19:24:49 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | gentauro: Yes that works :) I am just confused about "cabal install" and "cabal list --installed" not be connected? |
| 2026-01-21 19:25:02 +0100 | <int-e> | (I can see how this is confusing.) |
| 2026-01-21 19:26:37 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | It looks like it shows same thing as "ghc-pkg list". Also there is "cabal register/unregister" and this goes to db in ghc-pkg? |
| 2026-01-21 19:28:01 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | so "ghc-pkg list == cabal list --installed" to change this output one needs to "cabal register/unregister" instead of install |
| 2026-01-21 19:28:03 +0100 | <int-e> | ...oh wow, v1-register is still around? |
| 2026-01-21 19:28:07 +0100 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
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| 2026-01-21 19:28:22 +0100 | <danza> | you are speaking commands i rarely use, that's interesting |
| 2026-01-21 19:28:37 +0100 | divlamir | (~divlamir@user/divlamir) divlamir |
| 2026-01-21 19:29:28 +0100 | <int-e> | Milan_Vanca: There's `cabal install --lib` but rather than adding to GHC's package database it creates an environment file. Which, annoyingly, is a feature that ghc-pkg isn't aware of. |
| 2026-01-21 19:29:44 +0100 | <gentauro> | Milan_Vanca: I'm understanding you want to list `binaries` installed by cabal right? Why not just `ls -lh ~/.cabal/bin`? |
| 2026-01-21 19:30:33 +0100 | <danza> | yeah int-e that's why recently i always use cabal from a dir with a .cabal file. Otherwise it gets confusing |
| 2026-01-21 19:30:49 +0100 | <int-e> | gentauro: Because, I think, Milan_Vanca is just discovering how cabal[-install] works. |
| 2026-01-21 19:30:54 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | gentauro: As I want to understand what is going on, which command does what. But as int-e pointed out the situation is more complicated |
| 2026-01-21 19:31:04 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | int-e: Exactly |
| 2026-01-21 19:31:39 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | int-e: So cabal install --lib uses "local package db" and ghc-pkg is not aware of that right? |
| 2026-01-21 19:31:46 +0100 | danza | (~danza@user/danza) (Quit: got to go) |
| 2026-01-21 19:32:15 +0100 | <int-e> | Milan_Vanca: No, environment files are a third mechanic, separate from global and user package db |
| 2026-01-21 19:32:46 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | int-e: "ghc-pkg --user-package-db" should be able to pick libs installed with "cabal install --lib" ? |
| 2026-01-21 19:33:00 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | int-e: Aaah :D |
| 2026-01-21 19:33:30 +0100 | <int-e> | Their purpose is to be context dependent (you can have an environment in a project directory, and ghc will pick it up unless instructed not to) |
| 2026-01-21 19:33:44 +0100 | <int-e> | Milan_Vanca: ghc-pkg will take the user package db into account by default |
| 2026-01-21 19:34:20 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | Ok so there is global package db, user package db, and project env. |
| 2026-01-21 19:34:22 +0100 | <int-e> | It's all rather messy, for historical reasons and possibly having too many cooks. |
| 2026-01-21 19:35:07 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | Ookey I should just read whole doc and then ask questions :D |
| 2026-01-21 19:35:21 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | BRB.. and thank you for answers :) |
| 2026-01-21 19:37:44 +0100 | <int-e> | Milan_Vanca: for details on environments (including where GHC looks for them), see https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/users_guide/packages.html#package-environments |
| 2026-01-21 19:38:03 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | thanks |
| 2026-01-21 19:38:21 +0100 | <int-e> | Personally I use GHC_ENVIRONMENT=- which disables them (and then occasionally unset that variable) |
| 2026-01-21 19:38:57 +0100 | <int-e> | And then do what danza said: Don't work with standalong ghc(i) at all if there are any non-standard dependencies. |
| 2026-01-21 19:39:04 +0100 | <int-e> | *standalone |
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| 2026-01-21 19:45:10 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | I am not sure I uderstand.. so when project has dependencies that are not glboaly installed, then its better to "cabal repl" instead of ghci right? |
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| 2026-01-21 19:46:08 +0100 | <int-e> | yeah that's the idea |
| 2026-01-21 19:47:03 +0100 | <int-e> | leave the messy bits of informing ghci about the packages to cabal |
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| 2026-01-21 20:14:00 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | Hmmm, how should I understand "broken" package? Is it "not installed"? From ghc docs 5.9.1 "GHC only knows about packages that are installed. Installed packages live in package databases." And "Additionally, some packages may be broken: that is, they are missing from the package database, or one of their dependencies are broken" |
| 2026-01-21 20:14:38 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | So "installed = in pkg db" "broken = not in pkg db".. I would say broken package is one in pkg db but somehow broken |
| 2026-01-21 20:16:08 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | And also "or the version number can be omitted in which case GHC will automatically expose the latest non-broken version from the installed versions of the package." So package can be installed and broken at the same time. |
| 2026-01-21 20:17:01 +0100 | <int-e> | Milan_Vanca: I guess that's technically correct? ghc-pkg will only list broken packages that are installed though, so you end up with packages that have a missing or broken dependency. |
| 2026-01-21 20:17:42 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | Ah makes sense |
| 2026-01-21 20:18:07 +0100 | <int-e> | Milan_Vanca: The most common way a package breaks would be by upgrading a dependency, which replaces the dependency by a newer version (which is a different package). |
| 2026-01-21 20:18:40 +0100 | <int-e> | Also, this mostly happened with older cabal-install (1.x) |
| 2026-01-21 20:19:30 +0100 | <Milan_Vanca> | Okey this makes sense.. :) Thank you |
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