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2025-11-28 00:03:47 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-28 00:15:02 +0100__monty__(~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: leaving)
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2025-11-28 00:19:20 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-28 00:41:10 +0100L29Ah(~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah
2025-11-28 00:46:40 +0100ec(~ec@gateway/tor-sasl/ec) (Remote host closed the connection)
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2025-11-28 00:50:06 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-28 00:53:05 +0100DetourNe-(~DetourNet@user/DetourNetworkUK) DetourNetworkUK
2025-11-28 00:53:28 +0100DetourNetworkUK(DetourNetw@user/DetourNetworkUK) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-11-28 00:54:37 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-11-28 00:55:20 +0100DetourNe-DetourNetworkUK
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2025-11-28 01:02:24 +0100lambdabot(~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot) (Quit: Wee!)
2025-11-28 01:05:08 +0100lambdabot(~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot) lambdabot
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2025-11-28 01:05:30 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-28 01:05:43 +0100Shark8(~Shark8@c-174-56-102-109.hsd1.nm.comcast.net)
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2025-11-28 01:10:37 +0100Googulator(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-4ad8-f42e-6d50-f4ab-2863.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
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2025-11-28 01:12:19 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-11-28 01:13:41 +0100trickard(~trickard@cpe-91-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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2025-11-28 01:23:32 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-28 01:44:51 +0100Tuplanolla(~Tuplanoll@91-152-225-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Quit: Leaving.)
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2025-11-28 02:07:22 +0100jmcantrell(~weechat@user/jmcantrell) jmcantrell
2025-11-28 02:09:50 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-28 02:44:41 +0100cstml(~cstml@user/cstml) (Quit: ZNC 1.10.1 - https://znc.in)
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2025-11-28 02:46:08 +0100lambdabot(~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot) (Quit: Will there be a rubber tree at the bottom of this cliff?)
2025-11-28 02:46:15 +0100lambdabot(~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot) lambdabot
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2025-11-28 02:55:03 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-28 02:58:32 +0100Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine)
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2025-11-28 02:59:33 +0100sord937(~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) sord937
2025-11-28 03:02:25 +0100Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life
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2025-11-28 03:04:50 +0100Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Excess Flood)
2025-11-28 03:05:10 +0100 <int-e> Okay, lambdabot moved once again... now on ghc-9.10.3. Some packages that were available before may be missing or hidden. https://silicon.int-e.eu/lambdabot/State/packages.txt is the current state of that (parenthesized ones are hidden; I would've preferred to hide ghc-interanal and ghc-prim but can't for technical reasons)
2025-11-28 03:07:21 +0100img(~img@user/img) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in)
2025-11-28 03:08:40 +0100jmcantrell(~weechat@user/jmcantrell) jmcantrell
2025-11-28 03:08:42 +0100img(~img@user/img) img
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2025-11-28 03:35:44 +0100X-Scale(~ARM@6.67.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt) X-Scale
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2025-11-28 03:41:33 +0100glguy_(glguy@libera/staff/glguy) glguy
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2025-11-28 03:47:44 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-11-28 03:47:55 +0100Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life
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2025-11-28 03:59:14 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-28 04:08:10 +0100glguy_glguy
2025-11-28 04:11:29 +0100 <glguy> thanks for keeping it updated
2025-11-28 04:12:41 +0100 <int-e> Well, sort of. I think the last time was 5 years ago.
2025-11-28 04:13:27 +0100 <glguy> ok, then: thanks for running it :)
2025-11-28 04:14:38 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-28 04:16:00 +0100 <int-e> :)
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2025-11-28 06:06:20 +0100Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-11-28 06:07:02 +0100jmcantrell(~weechat@user/jmcantrell) jmcantrell
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2025-11-28 06:24:21 +0100timide(~timide@user/timide) (K-Lined)
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2025-11-28 07:24:05 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-28 07:28:33 +0100acidjnk(~acidjnk@p200300d6e7171932119317c4eba72db3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) acidjnk
2025-11-28 07:28:38 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect
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2025-11-28 07:39:28 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-28 07:42:20 +0100falafel(~falafel@gateway/vpn/pia/falafel) falafel
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2025-11-28 07:46:17 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Quit: Leaving...)
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2025-11-28 10:26:37 +0100 <lucabtz> glguy, im luca from matrix. would it be possible to have something like xmonad with glirc, i see the executable is in exec and is not much code, most of the code is in the library. maybe i could try adding a list of haskell extensions with similar callbacks as for the C API
2025-11-28 10:28:44 +0100 <merijn> lucabtz: What does "like xmonad" mean here?
2025-11-28 10:29:44 +0100 <lucabtz> > <glguy> xmonad is a well-known tool that people configure in Haskell, but the way that's achieved is to have the program be a library. Every use of it is a program you write and compile that links in the library
2025-11-28 10:29:45 +0100 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input `<'
2025-11-28 10:30:01 +0100 <lucabtz> (didnt know it is a command sorry)
2025-11-28 10:31:18 +0100 <__monty__> It's trivially possible in the sense that you can write any program.
2025-11-28 10:32:45 +0100 <lucabtz> s/possible/easily implementable
2025-11-28 10:34:02 +0100 <merijn> lucabtz: I mean, glirc is already a library?
2025-11-28 10:34:08 +0100 <merijn> So it's already that
2025-11-28 10:35:16 +0100 <lucabtz> sure im just wondering how hard it would be to pass a list of haskell callbacks for it to process, similarly to the C API
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2025-11-28 10:45:52 +0100 <__monty__> Sounds pretty doable, especially if that is how the C API already works.
2025-11-28 10:46:57 +0100 <lucabtz> yeah to me too, but im bored at work because im just renaming a lot of variables and anyway not much was happening here. sorry if i bothered
2025-11-28 10:49:08 +0100 <__monty__> No need to apologize it's just a pretty open-ended question that only someone who's intimately familiar with the library would have a good answer to.
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2025-11-28 11:02:13 +0100 <__monty__> lucabtz: Do you just like the idea of extending an IRC client in Haskell or do you have existing libraries in mind?
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2025-11-28 11:40:05 +0100 <lucabtz> no i just like the idea really, nothing existing in mind
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2025-11-28 12:06:12 +0100 <__monty__> That's OK, I don't mind Haskell maximalism : )
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2025-11-28 12:27:15 +0100 <[exa]> is there some canonical tutorial on implementing a linear-types-capable typesystem? Like there's THIH for typeclasses.
2025-11-28 12:32:35 +0100 <merijn> probably not
2025-11-28 12:32:47 +0100 <merijn> That's probably "read research papers" territory :)
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2025-11-28 12:57:19 +0100 <tomsmeding> [exa]: I have been recommended this thing at some point https://granule-project.github.io/papers/esop22-paper.pdf ; not quite what you're asking for, but perhaps still interesting
2025-11-28 13:08:02 +0100 <[exa]> tomsmeding: sounds good, thanks a lot!
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2025-11-28 15:15:12 +0100 <yin> is `cabal run test` supposed to run test-suite?
2025-11-28 15:15:45 +0100 <merijn> yin: Yes, but also maybe no :p
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2025-11-28 15:16:26 +0100 <merijn> I assume you mean `test` is the name of a test-suite there?
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2025-11-28 15:17:25 +0100 <merijn> There was a weird thing where if you don't configure with --enable-tests it won't build (and thus not run) test suites by default
2025-11-28 15:20:07 +0100 <yin> ah yes, `test` is the name of the test-suite. that makes more sense
2025-11-28 15:20:15 +0100 <yin> ty
2025-11-28 15:22:26 +0100 <merijn> yin: For local development you probably wanna just do "cabal configure --enable-tests" so that it *always* builds tests and then it should "Just Work (TM)"
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2025-11-28 17:03:54 +0100 <milan> Hello guyz.. Long time no see :). I have a question why GHC uses native backend. Wouldn't it be better to only use LLVM? We chould then have ghc on arm? Is my reasoning sound?
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2025-11-28 17:08:07 +0100 <fgarcia> if i had to guess, supporting llvm has a burden to it maintainers are not intersted in. this is me speculating though
2025-11-28 17:08:35 +0100 <juri_> my guess would be vectorization requirements.
2025-11-28 17:09:24 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-28 17:10:25 +0100 <tomsmeding> milan: you can tell GHC to use LLVM (-fllvm), but you're probably aware of that
2025-11-28 17:10:56 +0100 <tomsmeding> common wisdom is that it tends to bring improvement on highly numerical, tight code (because LLVM does auto-vectorisation), and is slightly worse on very haskell-y code
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2025-11-28 17:11:18 +0100 <milan> tomsmeding: Yeah, so both can be used and both needs to be maintained? Which is more work to just support LLVM?
2025-11-28 17:11:27 +0100 <milan> Ah.. so tradeof
2025-11-28 17:11:34 +0100 <tomsmeding> personally I would be sad if GHC went LLVM-only because having a monoculture of anything is bad for progress
2025-11-28 17:11:40 +0100 <tomsmeding> everything else is LLVM already anyway
2025-11-28 17:12:09 +0100 <tomsmeding> also doesn't GHC support ARM these days?
2025-11-28 17:12:21 +0100 <milan> Does it?
2025-11-28 17:12:31 +0100 <tomsmeding> the GHC native code generator works perfectly fine at least on Apple Silicon
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2025-11-28 17:13:09 +0100 <tomsmeding> this is an innovation of the 9.0- series though
2025-11-28 17:13:12 +0100 <milan> But I have a dream to use it in android phones.
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2025-11-28 17:13:24 +0100 <tomsmeding> have you tried it?
2025-11-28 17:13:30 +0100 <milan> And maybe rpi..
2025-11-28 17:13:50 +0100 <milan> tomsmeding: Not yet...and this might be outdated view that we dont have ghc on arm.
2025-11-28 17:14:09 +0100 <tomsmeding> yeah in the 8.* series, you needed LLVM to make things work on ARM
2025-11-28 17:14:20 +0100 <tomsmeding> nowadays at least some ARM targets are supported natively
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2025-11-28 17:15:27 +0100 <milan> THank you.. I will look some more info online.
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2025-11-28 17:16:28 +0100 <tomsmeding> milan: ghcup has versions for aarch64-deb10-linux and aarch64-apple-darwin
2025-11-28 17:16:40 +0100 <fgarcia> this is interesting to me. i think there might be arm builds https://ports.macports.org/port/ghc/details/ . some things on the page are 'Version: 9.12.2' and '✓ Tahoe (arm64)' which seems quite recent
2025-11-28 17:17:02 +0100 <tomsmeding> milan: so it's possible that if you just try using ghcup, things will just work on your target
2025-11-28 17:17:19 +0100 <tomsmeding> fgarcia: on apple silicon I know for sure that using ghcup just works
2025-11-28 17:17:28 +0100 <tomsmeding> some of my colleagues do that
2025-11-28 17:18:16 +0100 <fgarcia> actually, come to think of it. i use android with termux and my phone is arm. i have been able to run some code on that and even though it is .deb the packages are newer than what some distros have!
2025-11-28 17:19:01 +0100 <tomsmeding> right, I think the ghcup bindists don't work in termux (possibly path reasons), but yes the termux repos have a ghc
2025-11-28 17:24:32 +0100 <milan> Hmm... now I found arm build for linux... so I expect it to "work". Why I thought otherwise? Maybe I was lost by reading old articles about arm support from 2014 :D
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2025-11-28 19:23:08 +0100 <milan> Guyz! I have yet another question! I know I can read docs but bothering you with stupid quesitons is so much more fun. So has anybody tried ReactJS and Miso? How do they compare. React is pushing "pure functions" for composing GUI which haskell might employ for GUI too right? Is this what MISO does?
2025-11-28 19:33:58 +0100 <EvanR> haskell-miso.org claims that it is "isomorphic" so I'm finding it hard not to check out
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2025-11-28 19:48:19 +0100 <milan> EvanR: This isomorphism looks to me like next.js hydratation. Like prerender on server send prerenderd html then run rest on browser. I am more interested in "Function components" and composability as is in ReactJS.
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2025-11-28 19:49:57 +0100 <milan> What does not make sense for me is that ReactJS claims (computing new state of components and drawing to screen is pure function) In haskell however even printing to terminal is in IOMonad. How could displaying something be pure and impure at once? I bet ReactJS is lying here.
2025-11-28 19:50:09 +0100 <EvanR> hydration?
2025-11-28 19:52:05 +0100 <EvanR> an HTML UI component can be a pure function of its source data
2025-11-28 19:52:16 +0100 <milan> EvanR: Yes look here https://nextjs.org/docs/pages/building-your-application/rendering/server-side-rendering
2025-11-28 19:52:23 +0100 <EvanR> I pointed this out long ago while doing PHP