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| 2025-11-18 01:15:04 +0100 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-11-18 01:17:05 +0100 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) jmcantrell |
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| 2025-11-18 01:23:41 +0100 | <yin> | I'm trying to understant FRP in haskell and the hypothetical Monad instance for Signals. My mind immediately went to call/cc from Scheme. Am I way off base? |
| 2025-11-18 01:25:35 +0100 | <EvanR> | Signal doesn't sound like the original formulation of FRP. Which library is this from |
| 2025-11-18 01:27:20 +0100 | <EvanR> | in conal's old blog, he mentioned maybe something about a monad instance for Events then later abandoned it |
| 2025-11-18 01:28:44 +0100 | <yin> | EvanR: Signal would be Behaviour from Conal's. (>>=) :: Signal a -> (a -> Signal b) -> Signal b |
| 2025-11-18 01:28:58 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) peterbecich |
| 2025-11-18 01:29:16 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 01:30:25 +0100 | <EvanR> | oh |
| 2025-11-18 01:30:44 +0100 | chiselfuse | (~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-11-18 01:30:47 +0100 | <EvanR> | then monad can make sense in the same sense as the monad instance for Stream of Stream of a |
| 2025-11-18 01:30:55 +0100 | <EvanR> | er, stream |
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| 2025-11-18 01:31:02 +0100 | <EvanR> | join :: Stream (Stream a) -> Stream a |
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| 2025-11-18 01:33:44 +0100 | <EvanR> | join :: Signal (Signal a) -> Signal a, assuming Signal = Behavior |
| 2025-11-18 01:34:02 +0100 | <EvanR> | how useful that is I don't know |
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| 2025-11-18 01:42:30 +0100 | turlando | (~turlando@user/turlando) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 01:43:44 +0100 | <yin> | my intuition is that bind would offer a way to dynamically change the control flow or dependency graph |
| 2025-11-18 01:43:46 +0100 | <yin> | https://paste.jrvieira.com/1763426541194 |
| 2025-11-18 01:44:00 +0100 | turlando | (~turlando@user/turlando) turlando |
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| 2025-11-18 01:45:09 +0100 | <EvanR> | Signal f <*> Signal x |
| 2025-11-18 01:45:15 +0100 | <EvanR> | to make it more clear what's going on |
| 2025-11-18 01:45:15 +0100 | synchromesh | (~john@2406:5a00:2412:2c00:71c7:e357:fc79:c8b6) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 01:45:37 +0100 | <EvanR> | would give you, basically (not actual syntax), Signal (f x) |
| 2025-11-18 01:45:41 +0100 | synchromesh | (~john@2406:5a00:2412:2c00:6993:feea:8b51:a565) synchromesh |
| 2025-11-18 01:45:45 +0100 | <yin> | right. i had that but (x t) looked weird to me :) |
| 2025-11-18 01:46:36 +0100 | <EvanR> | the usual way to introduce a way to "dynamically" replace a behavior is to use an event |
| 2025-11-18 01:46:55 +0100 | <EvanR> | something like Signal a -> Event (Signal a) -> Signal a |
| 2025-11-18 01:47:16 +0100 | <EvanR> | the signal is replaced with the event payload when/if it happens. Before before any events, the first argument applies |
| 2025-11-18 01:49:19 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:fb28:6c11:a653:72c4) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 01:49:59 +0100 | <monochrom> | If you think call/cc, you're a low-level person. It's not wrong, it just may be very helpful or very distracting depending on your purpose. |
| 2025-11-18 01:51:40 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 01:52:33 +0100 | <jackdk> | I got a lot out of (in order): this old "FRP - Events and Behaviours" talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXW1jBijhlk, the diagrams in the reactive-banana package, and https://github.com/qfpl/reflex-workshop/ (for hands-on experience). They might help you get your head around the mental models |
| 2025-11-18 01:52:35 +0100 | <yin> | monochrom: it just had the same smell in my purposeless mind, that's all |
| 2025-11-18 01:53:01 +0100 | <monochrom> | It's OK. Lately I smelled Yoneda lemma everywhere anyway. :) |
| 2025-11-18 01:54:10 +0100 | <yin> | jackdk: tyvm |
| 2025-11-18 01:54:35 +0100 | <monochrom> | (The smell was correct. It really was Yoneda lemma. Know every angle, all of them are helpful.) |
| 2025-11-18 01:57:05 +0100 | <EvanR> | was this a programming situation or category theory |
| 2025-11-18 01:58:50 +0100 | <yin> | yes |
| 2025-11-18 01:59:03 +0100 | <yin> | :) |
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| 2025-11-18 02:04:34 +0100 | infinity0 | (~infinity0@pwned.gg) infinity0 |
| 2025-11-18 02:07:46 +0100 | <monochrom> | Suppose σ permutes arrays of length n. I can apply it to the "identity array" [0 .. n-1], i.e., define e := σ [0 .. n-1]. Then I can use e instead of σ to permute other arrays: To permute v, (σ v)[i] = v[e[i]] for each i. In the vector library, you can just write `V.backpermute e v`. |
| 2025-11-18 02:08:11 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 02:08:13 +0100 | <monochrom> | Turns out this was foretold by the Yoneda lemma too! |
| 2025-11-18 02:08:50 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 02:10:41 +0100 | <monochrom> | Model "array of length n with elements of type a" as N->a, N = {0 .. n-1}. Then permutations are a special cases of (N->a) -> (N->a). Then Yoneda embedding says that it's isomorphic to N->N, the forward mapping maps σ to σ id, id = [0 .. n-1]. |
| 2025-11-18 02:11:51 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Zemyla> So is there a type that represents a combination? |
| 2025-11-18 02:12:01 +0100 | <monochrom> | And the backward mapping maps e to \v -> v ∘ e |
| 2025-11-18 02:12:14 +0100 | <monochrom> | I don't know! Not interested for now. |
| 2025-11-18 02:12:55 +0100 | <EvanR> | sounds like the theory of group action |
| 2025-11-18 02:13:27 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) peterbecich |
| 2025-11-18 02:14:38 +0100 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-11-18 02:15:25 +0100 | <monochrom> | Moreover, it also hints that σ id is "backwards": It maps new indexes to old indexes. How to see it: Use N for old indexes, N' for new indexes. Then (N->a) -> (N'->a) is isomorphic to N' -> N. |
| 2025-11-18 02:15:27 +0100 | AlexNoo_ | (~AlexNoo@178.34.162.20) |
| 2025-11-18 02:16:42 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |
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| 2025-11-18 02:17:08 +0100 | <monochrom> | So yeah it's both programming and category theory. I was coding up LU factorization with pivoting, and I recorded the permutation of rows by performing the same permutation on [0 .. n-1] and returning it. |
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| 2025-11-18 02:21:50 +0100 | <monochrom> | Combination may be N->2. Each of n elements may be chosen or not-chosen. |
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| 2025-11-18 02:24:07 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Zemyla> True. |
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| 2025-11-18 04:38:51 +0100 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex |
| 2025-11-18 04:42:59 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 04:44:39 +0100 | bitdex_ | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex |
| 2025-11-18 04:46:28 +0100 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 04:48:00 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 04:54:21 +0100 | annamalai | (~annamalai@157.33.255.31) annamalai |
| 2025-11-18 04:58:46 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 05:05:37 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 05:10:40 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 05:11:36 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0 |
| 2025-11-18 05:13:42 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-50-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 05:13:59 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-50-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-11-18 05:16:49 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 05:18:08 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 05:20:09 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 05:20:55 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0 |
| 2025-11-18 05:22:13 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 05:23:29 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@85-238-67-234.pool.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 05:23:44 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 05:32:35 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 05:37:28 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 05:48:23 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 05:52:39 +0100 | synchromesh | (~john@2406:5a00:2412:2c00:6993:feea:8b51:a565) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 05:53:25 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 05:53:44 +0100 | Square3 | (~Square@user/square) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 05:54:22 +0100 | synchromesh | (~john@2406:5a00:2412:2c00:6993:feea:8b51:a565) synchromesh |
| 2025-11-18 06:00:08 +0100 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 06:04:10 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 06:07:53 +0100 | gustrb | (~gustrb@user/gustrb) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 06:09:02 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 06:09:06 +0100 | gustrb | (~gustrb@191.243.134.87) |
| 2025-11-18 06:10:41 +0100 | Googulator23 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 06:10:41 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 06:17:42 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) peterbecich |
| 2025-11-18 06:19:58 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 06:24:17 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 06:35:23 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 06:42:37 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 06:42:44 +0100 | mange | (~mange@user/mange) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-11-18 06:49:27 +0100 | oppili | (~oppili@user/nerdypepper) nerdy |
| 2025-11-18 06:53:27 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 06:54:11 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-50-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 06:54:22 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-11-18 06:54:56 +0100 | michalz | (~michalz@185.246.207.215) |
| 2025-11-18 06:58:04 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 07:03:17 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 07:09:56 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 07:10:34 +0100 | takuan | (~takuan@d8D86B9E9.access.telenet.be) |
| 2025-11-18 07:20:28 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 07:21:34 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 07:22:50 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0 |
| 2025-11-18 07:25:13 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 07:27:38 +0100 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) Lycurgus |
| 2025-11-18 07:30:34 +0100 | Googulator16 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 07:30:39 +0100 | Googulator23 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 07:33:19 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 07:35:35 +0100 | Googulator67 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 07:35:40 +0100 | Googulator16 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 07:36:00 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 07:41:07 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 07:45:37 +0100 | Googulator67 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 07:45:43 +0100 | Googulator2 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 07:51:55 +0100 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) (Quit: alsoknownas.renjuan.org ( juan@acm.org )) |
| 2025-11-18 07:52:19 +0100 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-11-18 07:53:17 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 07:53:42 +0100 | otto_s | (~user@p4ff27097.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 07:57:27 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 07:57:58 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 08:03:16 +0100 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 08:03:29 +0100 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-11-18 08:08:35 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 08:08:39 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 08:10:42 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) peterbecich |
| 2025-11-18 08:13:43 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 08:15:47 +0100 | Googulator2 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 08:15:53 +0100 | Googulator71 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 08:20:41 +0100 | elbartol` | (~user@user/elbartol) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-11-18 08:21:15 +0100 | elbartol | (~user@user/elbartol) elbartol |
| 2025-11-18 08:23:20 +0100 | annamalai | (~annamalai@157.33.255.31) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 08:24:27 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 08:30:42 +0100 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a02:8071:64e1:da0:5a47:caff:fe78:33db) CiaoSen |
| 2025-11-18 08:31:32 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 08:34:22 +0100 | emmanuelux | (~emmanuelu@user/emmanuelux) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-11-18 08:39:55 +0100 | kadobanana | (~mud@user/kadoban) kadoban |
| 2025-11-18 08:42:26 +0100 | mud | (~mud@user/kadoban) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 08:42:30 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 08:44:37 +0100 | sord937 | (~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) sord937 |
| 2025-11-18 08:45:49 +0100 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 08:47:05 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 08:47:16 +0100 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2025-11-18 08:51:59 +0100 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 08:52:13 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-11-18 08:54:26 +0100 | sord937 | (~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-11-18 08:54:46 +0100 | sord937 | (~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) sord937 |
| 2025-11-18 08:56:21 +0100 | lucabtz | (~lucabtz@user/lucabtz) lucabtz |
| 2025-11-18 08:57:53 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 09:00:07 +0100 | acidjnk | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e717199494cb24f290a326c5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) acidjnk |
| 2025-11-18 09:01:22 +0100 | mud | (~mud@user/kadoban) kadoban |
| 2025-11-18 09:02:09 +0100 | kadobanana | (~mud@user/kadoban) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 09:03:01 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 09:05:26 +0100 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-11-18 09:06:12 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 09:10:35 +0100 | Googulator82 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 09:10:56 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 09:13:47 +0100 | Googulator71 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 09:15:36 +0100 | Googulator82 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 09:15:39 +0100 | Googulator33 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 09:18:50 +0100 | kadobanana | (~mud@user/kadoban) kadoban |
| 2025-11-18 09:20:40 +0100 | Googulator33 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 09:20:41 +0100 | Googulator34 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 09:21:35 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 09:21:57 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 09:22:16 +0100 | mud | (~mud@user/kadoban) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 09:22:29 +0100 | nek0 | (~nek0@user/nek0) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 09:22:33 +0100 | nek02 | (~nek0@user/nek0) nek0 |
| 2025-11-18 09:25:41 +0100 | Googulator96 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 09:26:14 +0100 | Googulator34 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 09:27:28 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 09:30:42 +0100 | Googulator96 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 09:30:44 +0100 | Googulator21 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 09:36:05 +0100 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 09:44:33 +0100 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) (Quit: zzz) |
| 2025-11-18 09:45:48 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |
| 2025-11-18 09:55:20 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0 |
| 2025-11-18 09:59:20 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 10:06:19 +0100 | chele | (~chele@user/chele) chele |
| 2025-11-18 10:13:33 +0100 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 10:13:47 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-11-18 10:15:17 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 10:15:28 +0100 | Googulator21 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 10:15:35 +0100 | Googulator25 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 10:15:57 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0 |
| 2025-11-18 10:20:18 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 10:20:37 +0100 | Googulator74 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 10:20:44 +0100 | Googulator25 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 10:23:22 +0100 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2aaeb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2025-11-18 10:24:07 +0100 | mud | (~mud@user/kadoban) kadoban |
| 2025-11-18 10:25:40 +0100 | Googulator62 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 10:25:40 +0100 | Googulator74 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 10:27:52 +0100 | kadobanana | (~mud@user/kadoban) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 10:30:43 +0100 | Googulator79 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-18 10:30:49 +0100 | Googulator62 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 10:35:29 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 10:36:47 +0100 | img | (~img@user/img) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-11-18 10:38:07 +0100 | img | (~img@user/img) img |
| 2025-11-18 10:42:26 +0100 | kuribas | (~user@2a02:1808:e7:cecd:ef16:f030:ae55:9416) kuribas |
| 2025-11-18 10:44:29 +0100 | econo_ | (uid147250@id-147250.tinside.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) |
| 2025-11-18 10:46:57 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 10:54:01 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 10:56:42 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 10:58:09 +0100 | srazkvt | (~sarah@user/srazkvt) srazkvt |
| 2025-11-18 10:58:26 +0100 | oneeyedalien | (~oneeyedal@user/oneeyedalien) oneeyedalien |
| 2025-11-18 11:02:21 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0 |
| 2025-11-18 11:07:13 +0100 | myxokephale | (~myxos@2001:579:8380:f20:a8ed:41b7:d57f:8d02) myxokephale |
| 2025-11-18 11:09:55 +0100 | myxos | (~myxos@2001:579:8380:f20:5f4f:3365:91ae:208d) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 11:21:37 +0100 | xff0x_ | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 11:22:21 +0100 | annamalai | (~annamalai@157.33.250.15) annamalai |
| 2025-11-18 11:30:54 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 11:36:49 +0100 | nek02 | (~nek0@user/nek0) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 11:40:23 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 11:51:18 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 11:55:03 +0100 | <kaol> | I'm looking at network library's source and I see lines like "sizeOf ~_ = #const sizeof(struct addrinfo)" in it. What's that #const thing? |
| 2025-11-18 11:59:43 +0100 | <Leary> | kaol: Looks like a "label": https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/users_guide/exts/overloaded_labels.html |
| 2025-11-18 12:01:18 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 12:02:36 +0100 | gustrb | (~gustrb@191.243.134.87) (Changing host) |
| 2025-11-18 12:02:36 +0100 | gustrb | (~gustrb@user/gustrb) gustrb |
| 2025-11-18 12:03:00 +0100 | nek0 | (~nek0@user/nek0) nek0 |
| 2025-11-18 12:04:27 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | is there some way I can obtain a Coercible Int Int64? I'm fine if it's in a Maybe that is Nothing whenever this is not a 64-bit system or something |
| 2025-11-18 12:04:50 +0100 | <kaol> | I'm not seeing that extension mentioned anywhere in the library. |
| 2025-11-18 12:04:59 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | kaol: c2hs? |
| 2025-11-18 12:05:11 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | is this in a .chs file? |
| 2025-11-18 12:05:13 +0100 | kuribas` | (~user@ip-188-118-57-242.reverse.destiny.be) kuribas |
| 2025-11-18 12:06:18 +0100 | <kaol> | tomsmeding: Thanks, that explains what's going on. I suspect you mean .hsc because that's what they are using. |
| 2025-11-18 12:06:37 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | ah yes, I misremembered |
| 2025-11-18 12:06:42 +0100 | kuribas | (~user@2a02:1808:e7:cecd:ef16:f030:ae55:9416) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 12:06:52 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 12:07:35 +0100 | <kaol> | I need to do something similar but my use is limited enough that I think I'll just use capi for what I need. |
| 2025-11-18 12:17:07 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:d0b4:2969:7511:437b) |
| 2025-11-18 12:18:35 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 12:24:55 +0100 | <mauke> | for reference, https://github.com/haskell/hsc2hs?tab=readme-ov-file#input-syntax |
| 2025-11-18 12:25:20 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 12:26:51 +0100 | <mauke> | and https://github.com/haskell/hsc2hs/blob/master/data/template-hsc.h |
| 2025-11-18 12:30:23 +0100 | srazkvt | (~sarah@user/srazkvt) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2025-11-18 12:30:38 +0100 | srazkvt | (~sarah@user/srazkvt) srazkvt |
| 2025-11-18 12:31:52 +0100 | srazkvt | (~sarah@user/srazkvt) (Client Quit) |
| 2025-11-18 12:32:20 +0100 | __monty__ | (~toonn@user/toonn) toonn |
| 2025-11-18 12:35:38 +0100 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-11-18 12:37:16 +0100 | Inline | (~inlinE@2001-4dd7-ae97-0-4674-ae6d-2607-c022.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-11-18 12:37:39 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 12:48:03 +0100 | fp | (~Thunderbi@2001:708:20:1406::10c5) fp |
| 2025-11-18 12:56:58 +0100 | <Leary> | tomsmeding: Only by cheating egregiously: https://gist.github.com/LSLeary/91103a2fbb35d1c908802fa81d82c110 |
| 2025-11-18 12:57:57 +0100 | <Leary> | Worse, since GHC can actually see the declarations for all types involves, it /knows/ the `Coercible` instances are bogus and raises all kinds of warnings ... not sure if that will cause issues in practice. |
| 2025-11-18 12:58:02 +0100 | <Leary> | involved* |
| 2025-11-18 12:59:53 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Leary: right -- I tried something like this too, and got the same warnings |
| 2025-11-18 13:00:14 +0100 | <Leary> | I mean, it considers the (useful) RHSs of `archWS` as unreachable, so it's free to compile them away. `_test` works in the REPL, but might segfault in actual use. |
| 2025-11-18 13:00:22 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | beautiful! |
| 2025-11-18 13:00:39 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | If it compiles, it works. |
| 2025-11-18 13:02:46 +0100 | Googulator79 | Googulator |
| 2025-11-18 13:08:23 +0100 | srazkvt | (~sarah@user/srazkvt) srazkvt |
| 2025-11-18 13:09:44 +0100 | srazkvt | (~sarah@user/srazkvt) (Client Quit) |
| 2025-11-18 13:09:59 +0100 | srazkvt | (~sarah@user/srazkvt) srazkvt |
| 2025-11-18 13:17:15 +0100 | <Leary> | tomsmeding: Looking at the core under optimisation, it does compile just fine on my GHC 9.10. But I don't see why a future GHC could not choose to treat it as: `archWS = case wordSize of { 32 -> case unsafeWord32 of {}; 64 -> case unsafeWord64 of {}; _ -> UNK }`, producing core `archWS = case patError "ArchWS.hs:20:66-88|case"# of {}`. |
| 2025-11-18 13:18:57 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yes |
| 2025-11-18 13:19:40 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | we'd need some kind of guarantee from GHC that conjuring up custom Coercible evidence is okay and respected by GHC, and there is no such guarantee currently, I think |
| 2025-11-18 13:19:53 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | especially in the context of it being explicitly disallowed to write manual instances for Coercible |
| 2025-11-18 13:33:24 +0100 | wootehfoot | (~wootehfoo@user/wootehfoot) wootehfoot |
| 2025-11-18 13:34:41 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah |
| 2025-11-18 13:34:42 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@72.178.108.235) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 13:34:43 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ae:c0b:6c30:fdff:fe2e:3217) |
| 2025-11-18 13:35:16 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@72.178.108.235) |
| 2025-11-18 13:37:59 +0100 | <Leary> | tomsmeding: I want to include (lightly edited) logs of this conversation in the gist as a warning to posterity; do you mind? |
| 2025-11-18 13:38:14 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | sure, they are public anyway :) |
| 2025-11-18 13:39:05 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ae:c0b:6c30:fdff:fe2e:3217) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 13:40:40 +0100 | <Leary> | There is a certain irony in asking that of the guy who hosts public logs of the whole channel, but it just felt a bit rude to quote a casual conversation somewhere less transient without asking. |
| 2025-11-18 13:42:25 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Leary: heh. Thanks for asking though, I appreciate it :) |
| 2025-11-18 13:45:29 +0100 | SlackCoder | (~SlackCode@64-94-63-8.ip.weststar.net.ky) SlackCoder |
| 2025-11-18 13:47:15 +0100 | omidmash | (~omidmash@user/omidmash) omidmash |
| 2025-11-18 13:48:32 +0100 | <omidmash> | Good day. I need to install Haskell on lots of PCs that I manage using ansible playbooks. These computers are in computer labors, so I need GHC/I to work reliably. The official instruction installs in home folder (which I have set to reset on reboot), and needs user prompts. Is there a way to install Haskell systemwide that is automatable, for |
| 2025-11-18 13:48:32 +0100 | <omidmash> | instance with ansible? |
| 2025-11-18 13:53:49 +0100 | <omidmash> | Ah I have just noticed the haskell-ops channel |
| 2025-11-18 13:54:01 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | omidmash: solves only half of your problem, but the ghcup install script responds to the BOOTSTRAP_HASKELL_NONINTERACTIVE environment variable |
| 2025-11-18 13:54:15 +0100 | <kaol> | If this is about a linux distribution going with the package provided by them is one option. |
| 2025-11-18 14:05:43 +0100 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2025-11-18 14:16:50 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-11-18 14:25:56 +0100 | Nachtgespenst | (~user@user/siracusa) (Quit: Bye!) |
| 2025-11-18 14:26:40 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0231-4475-80b4-5cdc-43d6.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-11-18 14:26:54 +0100 | Square2 | (~Square4@user/square) Square |
| 2025-11-18 14:30:15 +0100 | fp | (~Thunderbi@2001:708:20:1406::10c5) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 14:35:56 +0100 | fp | (~Thunderbi@2001:708:150:10::7e06) fp |
| 2025-11-18 14:44:47 +0100 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) Lycurgus |
| 2025-11-18 14:51:02 +0100 | spew | (~spew@user/spew) spew |
| 2025-11-18 14:54:15 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Is there no function in base to get the bit length of a positive Integer? |
| 2025-11-18 14:54:30 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> I would google myself but stackoverflow is down with cloudflare |
| 2025-11-18 14:54:47 +0100 | <lucabtz> | isnt it just log2 |
| 2025-11-18 14:54:56 +0100 | <lucabtz> | with some flooring or ceiling |
| 2025-11-18 14:55:23 +0100 | <lucabtz> | maybe not efficient though |
| 2025-11-18 14:59:27 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> There's logBase, but that's for Floating. I don't see a log2 function |
| 2025-11-18 14:59:52 +0100 | bitdex_ | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) (Quit: = "") |
| 2025-11-18 14:59:55 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> That's fine, I already wrote "lb a = flip Data.Function.fix (abs a, 0) $ \go (x, r) -> if x == 0 then r else go (Data.Bits.shiftR x 1, r + 1)" |
| 2025-11-18 15:00:25 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> It's off by one but that's fine |
| 2025-11-18 15:01:15 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 15:01:38 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-11-18 15:02:25 +0100 | srazkvt | (~sarah@user/srazkvt) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 15:07:37 +0100 | <lucabtz> | Morj by log2 i didnt mean anything specific about haskell, just the natural logarithm in base 2, but you are right it is for floating |
| 2025-11-18 15:08:28 +0100 | <lucabtz> | that's why i said maybe not good for efficiency |
| 2025-11-18 15:08:46 +0100 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) (bye room!) |
| 2025-11-18 15:10:09 +0100 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-11-18 15:11:56 +0100 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-11-18 15:12:00 +0100 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 15:13:41 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> It's not only not good for efficiency, but logBase 2 (2^1024) == NaN |
| 2025-11-18 15:13:52 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ae:c0b:84d9:a0ff:fe3d:6f11) |
| 2025-11-18 15:13:55 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> I don't care about efficiency in ghci, more about usefulness |
| 2025-11-18 15:14:19 +0100 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a02:8071:64e1:da0:5a47:caff:fe78:33db) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
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| 2025-11-18 15:18:26 +0100 | <lucabtz> | sure sure, i just meant its related to log2, didnt know about the specific haskell functions |
| 2025-11-18 15:20:25 +0100 | srazkvt | (~sarah@user/srazkvt) srazkvt |
| 2025-11-18 15:24:46 +0100 | rekahsoft | (~rekahsoft@70.51.99.245) rekahsoft |
| 2025-11-18 15:27:17 +0100 | <Leary> | Morj: `GHC.Num.integerLog2` |
| 2025-11-18 15:29:05 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted |
| 2025-11-18 15:30:58 +0100 | morj | (~morj@user/morj) morj |
| 2025-11-18 15:31:24 +0100 | <morj> | The tagging of my bridged account still doesn't work, but what if I write out @morj:morj.men ? |
| 2025-11-18 15:31:35 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> morj: Hm |
| 2025-11-18 15:31:40 +0100 | <morj> | Morj hm |
| 2025-11-18 15:31:50 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Wait what, this one tagged me |
| 2025-11-18 15:32:07 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> What are you all doing wrong? |
| 2025-11-18 15:39:55 +0100 | pr1sm | (~pr1sm@24.91.163.31) |
| 2025-11-18 15:39:58 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Morj test |
| 2025-11-18 15:39:59 +0100 | <dutchie> | Morj: there was no colon on the second one |
| 2025-11-18 15:40:30 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@syn-192-154-181-091.biz.spectrum.com) |
| 2025-11-18 15:43:04 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ae:c0b:84d9:a0ff:fe3d:6f11) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 15:47:37 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Um, now I see both (I was just afk) |
| 2025-11-18 15:49:08 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Morj: have you considered correlating matrix notification behaviour with the phase of the moon |
| 2025-11-18 15:49:29 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Yes, it's uncorrelated |
| 2025-11-18 15:49:48 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | that's a relief |
| 2025-11-18 15:50:10 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> It's not the matrix itself (which also has a million problems), but the bridge misbehaving. But I believe this problem was reported |
| 2025-11-18 15:50:20 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | oh right, I remember |
| 2025-11-18 15:51:31 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | https://github.com/hifi/heisenbridge/issues/310 |
| 2025-11-18 15:51:35 +0100 | SlackCoder | (~SlackCode@64-94-63-8.ip.weststar.net.ky) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 15:52:26 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Morj: so it's possible that it works _because_ you're now also here with your morj irc user |
| 2025-11-18 15:52:37 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Huh |
| 2025-11-18 15:52:43 +0100 | morj | (~morj@user/morj) (Konversation terminated!) |
| 2025-11-18 15:52:48 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Try now plz |
| 2025-11-18 15:52:54 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Morj test |
| 2025-11-18 15:52:59 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Yep, no notif |
| 2025-11-18 15:57:02 +0100 | fp | (~Thunderbi@2001:708:150:10::7e06) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 15:57:48 +0100 | <lucabtz> | how about the colon? |
| 2025-11-18 15:57:53 +0100 | <lucabtz> | Morj: test |
| 2025-11-18 15:57:59 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> Nope |
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| 2025-11-18 16:13:19 +0100 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@91-152-225-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi) Tuplanolla |
| 2025-11-18 16:13:52 +0100 | FANTOM | (~fantom@212.228.181.156) |
| 2025-11-18 16:15:05 +0100 | synchromesh | (~john@2406:5a00:2412:2c00:6993:feea:8b51:a565) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 16:15:30 +0100 | tremon | (~tremon@83.80.159.219) tremon |
| 2025-11-18 16:15:33 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2025-11-18 16:16:02 +0100 | synchromesh | (~john@2406:5a00:2412:2c00:6993:feea:8b51:a565) synchromesh |
| 2025-11-18 16:16:15 +0100 | itaipu | (~itaipu@168.121.97.28) itaipu |
| 2025-11-18 16:17:14 +0100 | paddymahoney | (~paddymaho@pool-99-250-10-137.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 2025-11-18 16:17:31 +0100 | ezzieyguywuf | (~Unknown@user/ezzieyguywuf) ezzieyguywuf |
| 2025-11-18 16:18:13 +0100 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 16:18:13 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@syn-192-154-181-091.biz.spectrum.com) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 16:18:20 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ae:c0b:fc8a:aeff:fee2:a9bc) |
| 2025-11-18 16:18:27 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-11-18 16:18:50 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@12.50.240.58) |
| 2025-11-18 16:18:59 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
| 2025-11-18 16:20:56 +0100 | Everything | (~Everythin@static.208.206.21.65.clients.your-server.de) Everything |
| 2025-11-18 16:23:09 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ae:c0b:fc8a:aeff:fee2:a9bc) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 16:28:23 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ae:c0b:b45d:eaff:fe8f:4bed) |
| 2025-11-18 16:28:23 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@12.50.240.58) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 16:32:24 +0100 | srazkvt | (~sarah@user/srazkvt) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2025-11-18 16:33:46 +0100 | finsternis | (~X@23.226.237.192) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 16:43:26 +0100 | AlexNoo_ | AlexNoo |
| 2025-11-18 16:51:04 +0100 | SlackCoder | (~SlackCode@64-94-63-8.ip.weststar.net.ky) SlackCoder |
| 2025-11-18 16:55:27 +0100 | fp | (~Thunderbi@2001:708:20:1406::10c5) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 17:01:07 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@72.178.108.235) |
| 2025-11-18 17:04:16 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ae:c0b:b45d:eaff:fe8f:4bed) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2025-11-18 17:05:11 +0100 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2025-11-18 17:05:12 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@72.178.108.235) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-11-18 17:05:17 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ae:c0b:8f2:a6ff:fe96:9039) |
| 2025-11-18 17:06:27 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@72.178.108.235) |
| 2025-11-18 17:07:00 +0100 | poscat0x04 | (~poscat@user/poscat) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |