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2025-10-14 01:50:01 +0200 | <dcpagan> | Codensity is missing a MonadError instance. |
2025-10-14 01:50:12 +0200 | <dcpagan> | I had to roll one up with this: "catchError m k = lift $ catchError (lowerCodensity m) (lowerCodensity . k)" |
2025-10-14 01:51:36 +0200 | <dcpagan> | Also, "shift" is defined as "shift f = Codensity (lowerCodensity . f)". I should look more into delimited continuations and their applications in exception-handling. |
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2025-10-14 06:00:12 +0200 | aforemny | (~aforemny@2001:9e8:6cd9:6800:96c8:2246:a5e7:93e3) aforemny |
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2025-10-14 06:19:36 +0200 | <jackdk> | Some libraries use MonadFail as an error-reporting mechanism, but I think this is a historical error. These days I'd only use MonadFail to handle pattern-match failures in do expressions |
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2025-10-14 07:50:13 +0200 | <dminuoso> | jackdk: Regarding botan bindings, I think any approach focusing on native bindings to a cryptographic library is more healthy both on on a security perspective as well as future proofing. |
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2025-10-14 07:51:02 +0200 | <dminuoso> | Especially since the crypton(ite) situation demonstrates, that even *if* we have some reliable cryptographic implementation it is dependent on probably just a single person. Having an ecosystem dependent on a bus-factor of 1 is just not healthy for the rest of hackage. |
2025-10-14 07:52:05 +0200 | <dminuoso> | Not entirely sure if your comment was hinting at paying the botan person to work on crypton instead for a while. |
2025-10-14 07:54:24 +0200 | <jackdk> | dminuoso: I agree with what you have written. I think binding a trusted native implementation is safer in the long run, and I am hopeful we can move the ecosystem onto something like botan one day |
2025-10-14 07:55:12 +0200 | <jackdk> | And to be clear, I do not think paying the botan person to shift to crypton would be a good idea |
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