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2025-07-23 00:00:21 +0200 <monochrom> Yeah it started with GHC -O compiling "x=x+1" to "x=x". :)
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2025-07-23 00:48:22 +0200 <EvanR> gcc solved the halting problem!
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2025-07-23 03:11:36 +0200 <haskellbridge> <Ricardo> Hello. How can I set HLS's haskell.formattingProvider in emacs?
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2025-07-23 03:28:48 +0200 <Axman6> Anyone know how to fix this? I have llvm-18 available so the version shouldn't be a problem: error: [GHC-66599] GHC was not configured with a supported LLVM toolchain Make sure you have installed LLVM between [13 and 20) and reinstall GHC to make -fllvm work
2025-07-23 03:30:48 +0200 <Axman6> I see GHC outputs "*** systool:llc:" is I call it driectly with -v, llc is in my path too and reports v18.1.8
2025-07-23 03:33:12 +0200 <geekosaur> how did you install ghc?
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2025-07-23 03:35:02 +0200 <geekosaur> Ricardo: easiest way is probably `(customize-group 'lsp-haskell)`
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2025-07-23 03:40:13 +0200 <geekosaur> Axman6: in the normal case (bindist `configure; make install`; note that ghcup also runs this) the LLVM toolchain is checked during `configure` and if you add or change it afterward then you must re-run the bindist `configure`. If you used ghcup to install, that means uninstalling and reinstalling that ghc version
2025-07-23 03:40:18 +0200 <Axman6> ghcup
2025-07-23 03:40:42 +0200 <Axman6> ah! ok, so it's an install time thing, that's kind of annoying.
2025-07-23 03:40:52 +0200 <geekosaur> yes
2025-07-23 03:41:10 +0200 <Axman6> I was hoping it would just use the opt, llc etc. in my PATH
2025-07-23 03:41:21 +0200 <geekosaur> there's work on improving this somewhat but you would still need to run `ghc-toolchain` to update ghc configuration
2025-07-23 03:41:22 +0200 <Axman6> ok, I might see if I can nix all of it then
2025-07-23 03:41:53 +0200 <geekosaur> I think it needs to adapt the IR codegen to match the LLVM version?
2025-07-23 03:42:06 +0200 <geekosaur> so it needs to be baked into the settings file
2025-07-23 03:43:01 +0200 <geekosaur> (worth remembering is ghc doesn't use LLVM the "correct" way, it's using an interface that has no guaranteed stability)
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2025-07-23 03:44:30 +0200 <Axman6> :')
2025-07-23 03:44:42 +0200 <Axman6> what would the correct way be?
2025-07-23 03:44:50 +0200 <Axman6> calling it as a library?
2025-07-23 03:44:54 +0200 <geekosaur> yes
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2025-07-23 03:59:54 +0200 <geekosaur> @Ricardo, make that M-x customize-group lsp-haskell
2025-07-23 03:59:54 +0200 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
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2025-07-23 05:02:25 +0200 <jreicher> geekosaur: eglot is probably a better option
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2025-07-23 11:19:47 +0200 <tomsmeding> calling LLVM as a library is MUCH more unstable than LLVM IR :p
2025-07-23 11:20:11 +0200 <tomsmeding> it's just that typically your program will not compile with the new LLVM version instead of failing, but only just "typically"
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2025-07-23 12:04:35 +0200 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> LLVM not having a stable something even after all these years is absolutely mind boggling to me
2025-07-23 12:04:51 +0200 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> I dont expect a stable library, but at least the damn IR could be stable
2025-07-23 12:04:55 +0200 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> It doesnt change that often
2025-07-23 12:05:01 +0200 <tomsmeding> it's essentially stable
2025-07-23 12:05:37 +0200 <tomsmeding> they're trying to deprecate and remove explicit pointee types for pointers, but newest clang still accepts them in the IR
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2025-07-23 12:05:50 +0200 <tomsmeding> first deprecation was 5 major versions ago
2025-07-23 12:06:02 +0200 <tomsmeding> they're trying not to break IR producers and consumers, mostly
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2025-07-23 12:09:10 +0200 <tomsmeding> there have apparently been some breaking changes in representation of debug info over the years
2025-07-23 12:09:51 +0200 <tomsmeding> magic_rb: this thing https://github.com/GaloisInc/llvm-pretty/blob/master/src/Text/LLVM/PP.hs tries to produce compatible IR for a large range of LLVM IR versions, and conditionals are mostly around things that are newly added in newer versions, or debug info stuff
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2025-07-23 13:21:10 +0200 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> tomsmeding its essentially stable yes, but officially youre not supposed to produce IR directly and its not stable, which is dumb
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2025-07-23 13:51:28 +0200 <xdej> g
2025-07-23 13:51:33 +0200 <xdej> oh sorry
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2025-07-23 15:19:12 +0200 <[exa]> is there some nice utility/library that would help with prettyprinting DAGs? Like there's the Tree one for printing out tree-ish things -- instead I'd basically like to print out a piece of git history.
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2025-07-23 15:29:02 +0200 <Leary> [exa]: Graphviz?
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2025-07-23 16:02:05 +0200 <[exa]> Leary: I meant more like the drawing of the branchy structure for what you normally see in git log --graph and on githubs etc.
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2025-07-23 20:48:11 +0200 <smiesner> haskell on corporate windows laptop is too hard/much to install under the radar.. what else would you recommend instead?
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2025-07-23 20:55:43 +0200 <EvanR> really
2025-07-23 20:55:59 +0200 <EvanR> don't you just unpack some files and set your PATH
2025-07-23 20:58:05 +0200 <c_wraith> monochrom: I seem to recall you saying no one had ever proven Adams' trees actually work. Well.. They don't. But I wasn't the first to discover that.
2025-07-23 20:58:10 +0200 <geekosaur> bindist `configure; make install` is a bit more than that
2025-07-23 20:58:45 +0200 <geekosaur> eventually we're going to get bindists where you can slap them on a thumb drive and run `ghc-toolchain` to set them up, but that's not ready yet
2025-07-23 20:58:50 +0200 <EvanR> I recall installing on windows and this basically being what it amounted to
2025-07-23 20:59:10 +0200 <EvanR> but it was before "windows services for linux"
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2025-07-23 21:01:47 +0200 <monochrom> c_wraith: Ah interesting, nice.
2025-07-23 21:02:39 +0200 <c_wraith> monochrom: But! Milan Straka has a paper that claims to fix it, and prove that the fixes are correct. And I've heard his name a few times, so I get the impression he's reliable. http://fox.ucw.cz/papers/bbtree/bbtree.pdf
2025-07-23 21:03:30 +0200 <c_wraith> It's a pretty small tweak, that basically works out to adding a factor of preference for single rotations over double rotations.
2025-07-23 21:03:40 +0200 <smiesner> EvanR: ghcup install command throws errors bc of the restricted environment. installing everything by hand seems tedious and MSYS2 proved error prone in the past.. sadly no WSL available for me either
2025-07-23 21:04:16 +0200 <EvanR> what about a VM
2025-07-23 21:05:28 +0200 <smiesner> puuh, you gave me the belief to try the manual route again tomorrow
2025-07-23 21:05:35 +0200yabobay(~pizza@2a02:85f:fcd5:1601:a753:ff59:be6f:253f) (Konversation terminated!)
2025-07-23 21:07:52 +0200 <c_wraith> It was kind of funny though, when I got into the details of trying to debug "this sequence of operations results in a tree that violates the balance conditions". I saw the shape of the tree, and just went "oh. That absolutely looks like an edge-case exposing tree"
2025-07-23 21:08:02 +0200 <monochrom> Corporate laptop is always going to be a gatekeeper.
2025-07-23 21:08:26 +0200 <monochrom> BYOD is always the solution.
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2025-07-23 21:11:57 +0200 <tomsmeding> smiesner: what are the errors ghcup throws?
2025-07-23 21:13:59 +0200 <smiesner> i dont have the exact error msg at hand now but i think it was something system/os unsafe language related, I didn't want to mess around with
2025-07-23 21:14:43 +0200 <tomsmeding> "os unsafe language" does not tell me anything :)
2025-07-23 21:14:46 +0200 <smiesner> could have been ConstrainedLanguage mode
2025-07-23 21:15:06 +0200 <EvanR> microsoft policing your language?
2025-07-23 21:15:07 +0200 <tomsmeding> oh I ssee
2025-07-23 21:15:19 +0200 <tomsmeding> EvanR: seems to be a powershell sublanguage
2025-07-23 21:15:39 +0200 <monochrom> ghcup on Windows does need you to grant a permission. This is well-documented.
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2025-07-23 21:16:51 +0200 <smiesner> yes it def was the constrained lang mode. additionally i have no network connection while being a local admin, which i need to be to be able to install anything
2025-07-23 21:16:55 +0200 <dolio> glguy: You around?
2025-07-23 21:17:12 +0200 <glguy> Hi
2025-07-23 21:17:37 +0200 <dolio> I've been meaning to ask; what do you do about building glirc these days?
2025-07-23 21:17:44 +0200 <dolio> I can't build the openssl dependency.
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