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2025-02-03 05:41:49 +0100 <sim590> I just uploaded my first candidate for a Haskell package https://hackage.haskell.org/package/opendht-hs-0.1.0.0/candidate. If anyone has suggestions, I'm all ears. I had, however, a question: why isn't my markdown haskell code block highlighted with syntax highlighting? I took a look at an example hackage pacakage which has a README file and has syntax highlight in his code block:
2025-02-03 05:41:51 +0100 <sim590> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/highlight-1.0.0.1. Am I doing something wrong or is it just not possible to highlight Haskell code? I tried both with ```hs and ```haskell.
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2025-02-03 05:52:54 +0100 <int-e> Hmm it looks like the final page loads `prismjs` but the preview doesn't. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/http-client-tls uses ```haskell
2025-02-03 05:53:47 +0100 <int-e> (that was the first package from my browser history that had syntax highlighted example code)
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2025-02-03 06:59:14 +0100 <sim590> int-e: oh, so it's only because of the candidate page layout that I don't see the highlight. When I'll publish it, i'll see the highlighting, right ?
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2025-02-03 07:01:42 +0100 <sim590> Looking at the page you sent, that's how I interpret it. That's great. Thanks for the clarification!
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2025-02-03 07:03:50 +0100 <int-e> sim590: That's what it looks like to me.
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2025-02-03 09:19:47 +0100 <kuribas> Is there any work on implementing type inference algorithms in prolog or logic languages (minikanren)?
2025-02-03 09:20:22 +0100 <kuribas> It seems to me that inference rules lend themselves quite well towards logic programming, but I don't find a lot about this.
2025-02-03 09:20:28 +0100 <kuribas> Maybe because it is inefficient?
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2025-02-03 09:27:55 +0100 <kuribas> Also, prolog doesn't have occurs check.
2025-02-03 09:30:03 +0100 <tomsmeding> simple prolog rules without cut can be directly translated to TeX inference rules with nothing more than a few regexes, but I'm not sure about the other way round
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2025-02-03 09:35:57 +0100 <kuribas> tomsmeding: I want to write them as an inductive data family in idris, then use elaborator reflection to translate them automatically.
2025-02-03 09:36:12 +0100 <kuribas> Maybe a simple scheme/clojure macro to make it look nicer.
2025-02-03 09:37:51 +0100 <kuribas> tomsmeding: I am just surprised, because it seems much easier to prove right than a full blown algorithm that includes logic variables and unification.
2025-02-03 09:38:11 +0100 <kuribas> Of course, it doesn't prove the underlying logic system correct, but I don't really care about that.
2025-02-03 09:38:12 +0100 <tomsmeding> if you can indeed express them very naturally in the logic language :)
2025-02-03 09:39:03 +0100 <tomsmeding> if it turns out that the logic language is not quite expressive enough to do what you want and you end up needing to work around that, I'm not sure the result will really be much simpler than a straight implementation in a regular (functional) language
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2025-02-03 09:42:48 +0100 <kuribas> tomsmeding: The type becomes the relation proposition, and the values the dependencies.
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2025-02-03 09:44:00 +0100 <kuribas> tomsmeding: it seems quite straigtforward.
2025-02-03 09:44:11 +0100 <kuribas> Just basic logic relations, I don't see what more I will need.
2025-02-03 09:44:12 +0100 <tomsmeding> you were already worrying about the occurs check above
2025-02-03 09:44:41 +0100 <kuribas> Right :) If I use minikanren or core.logic, then the occurs check is on by default.
2025-02-03 09:45:33 +0100 <kuribas> oh, there is even kanren in rust.
2025-02-03 09:45:43 +0100 <tomsmeding> also it depends a little bit on what type system you're implementing, I think. If you look at a resource-linear type system, you have rules like: {A |- t1 : a -> b B |- t2 : a} / {A, B |- t1 t2 : b}
2025-02-03 09:45:53 +0100 <tomsmeding> indicating the horizontal bar with '/'
2025-02-03 09:46:13 +0100 <tomsmeding> this types function application; the point is that you need to partition the environment over the two subexpressions
2025-02-03 09:46:32 +0100 <tomsmeding> and you're allowed to (implicitly in the rule) reorder the environment arbitrarily before said partitioning
2025-02-03 09:47:05 +0100 <tomsmeding> on the other hand, perhaps this just works perfectly fine in a logic system
2025-02-03 09:48:06 +0100 <tomsmeding> (if you want to see the whole type system: Fig 2 + Fig 3 from https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=24c850390fba27fc6f3241cb34ce7bc6f37… )
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2025-02-03 09:48:43 +0100 <kuribas> Right, but then the context is part of the relation.
2025-02-03 09:48:43 +0100 <kuribas> Maybe using a "merge" relation to merge contexts.
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2025-02-03 12:50:39 +0100 <mreh> is there a way to turn a Addr# into a Ptr?
2025-02-03 12:51:17 +0100 <mreh> or `UArray i a` into a `Ptr a`
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2025-02-03 12:57:04 +0100 <int-e> :t GHC.Exts.Ptr
2025-02-03 12:57:04 +0100 <lambdabot> GHC.Prim.Addr# -> GHC.Ptr.Ptr a
2025-02-03 12:57:31 +0100 <int-e> make sure the array is frozen if you want to do this
2025-02-03 12:57:43 +0100 <int-e> err
2025-02-03 12:58:25 +0100 <mreh> int-e: ah, I missed that, thanks
2025-02-03 12:58:29 +0100 <int-e> pinned is the point
2025-02-03 12:59:43 +0100 <int-e> (So you probably shouldn't do that for an UArray because you have no control over whether the underlying ByteAray# is pinned or not. If it's not pinned, GCs can move it.)
2025-02-03 13:00:49 +0100 <int-e> (And when you're writing Haskell code, GC can happen essentially anywhere.)
2025-02-03 13:01:59 +0100euphores(~SASL_euph@user/euphores) euphores
2025-02-03 13:02:07 +0100 <mreh> hmm, yeah
2025-02-03 13:03:02 +0100 <mreh> I need to a lot of inplace updates to improve the performance of a TGA parser
2025-02-03 13:03:17 +0100 <mreh> and then spit it up into a Vulkan buffer
2025-02-03 13:03:33 +0100 <mreh> so I figured STUArray was the way to go
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2025-02-03 13:19:03 +0100 <int-e> mreh: if this is just at the FFI boundary, GHC has an extension to pass ByteArray# variants as pointers, so you don't have to convert to Addr# or Ptr a at all: https://ghc.gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/doc/users_guide/exts/ffi.html#unlifted-ffi-types
2025-02-03 13:20:24 +0100alfiee(~alfiee@user/alfiee) alfiee
2025-02-03 13:22:11 +0100 <mreh> int-e: It's a little above the FFI, I'm using Vulkan bindings someone else wrote.
2025-02-03 13:23:04 +0100 <mreh> ...which give you a `Ptr a` for a chunk of mapped memory for use in buffers
2025-02-03 13:23:17 +0100 <mreh> there might be a lower level API, just checking
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2025-02-03 13:28:13 +0100 <smiesner> what is Hydra exactly? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/hydra. What do I transform with it? models? meta models?
2025-02-03 13:28:37 +0100 <int-e> Ah. Hrm. I'd think the low-level API is Storable. Maybe Data.Vector.Storable.Mutable is a good higher level abstraction for your purposes?
2025-02-03 13:28:44 +0100 <int-e> mreh: ^
2025-02-03 13:29:53 +0100 <lxsameer> is there any way to write a polymorphic function like foo :: a -> Text but limit a to only couple of types?
2025-02-03 13:30:20 +0100 <mauke> what, like show?
2025-02-03 13:31:24 +0100 <lxsameer> mauke: I have two type A and B, I want foo to accept either of them as input
2025-02-03 13:31:28 +0100 <mreh> int-e: I guess I'm trying to avoid doing allocations for every pixel
2025-02-03 13:31:59 +0100 <mreh> lxsameer: Multiparameter type class?
2025-02-03 13:32:01 +0100 <int-e> mreh: sure, that's why you want to use ST (or IO)
2025-02-03 13:32:12 +0100 <int-e> mreh: and mutable arrays of vectors
2025-02-03 13:32:29 +0100 <lxsameer> mreh: maybe. thank you
2025-02-03 13:32:38 +0100 <mauke> is that a yes or a no?
2025-02-03 13:33:17 +0100 <lxsameer> mauke: is that for me?
2025-02-03 13:34:54 +0100 <mreh> int-e: I immediately went to unboxed arrays, for some reason, but this is a good idea
2025-02-03 13:34:59 +0100 <mreh> thanks
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2025-02-03 13:37:24 +0100 <mreh> if ST is deterministic what does Data-Vector-Storable-Mutable.new do with unitialised memory?
2025-02-03 13:37:51 +0100 <merijn> mreh: Crash, presumably :p
2025-02-03 13:38:57 +0100 <merijn> And/or return garbage
2025-02-03 13:39:35 +0100 <mreh> apparently storables have a zero
2025-02-03 13:40:19 +0100 <int-e> mreh: it initializes all bytes to 0, https://hackage.haskell.org/package/vector-0.13.2.0/docs/src/Data.Vector.Storable.Mutable.html#sto…
2025-02-03 13:40:21 +0100 <mreh> it doesn't matter, I'm going to write to every element, thanks everyone
2025-02-03 13:40:32 +0100 <mreh> int-e: yeah, just trying to grok that now
2025-02-03 13:40:34 +0100 <mreh> thanks again!
2025-02-03 13:40:36 +0100 <int-e> there's unsafeNew that skips that step
2025-02-03 13:40:45 +0100 <mreh> oh, handy
2025-02-03 13:40:47 +0100 <int-e> and it's unsafe precisely because of that
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