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| 2024-12-23 02:20:06 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-12-23 02:23:06 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> hm |
| 2024-12-23 02:23:15 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> seems the above model is incorrect but I'm not sure |
| 2024-12-23 02:23:34 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> does anyone know if FRP GUIs delegate rendering to individual components instead of having a centralized rendering function? |
| 2024-12-23 02:25:36 +0100 | <geekosaur> | depends on the specific FRP implementation, I'm pretty sure. each of them has its own model and most of them vary widely if not wildly from each other |
| 2024-12-23 02:25:48 +0100 | <geekosaur> | "FRP" is not even close to being a monolith |
| 2024-12-23 02:26:08 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> hm I should check out project implemented in the different libraries, ty good idea |
| 2024-12-23 02:26:16 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> * projects |
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| 2024-12-23 03:05:04 +0100 | <EvanR> | I have this cool non-answer to your question about FRP components from way back in the day https://apfelmus.nfshost.com/blog/2012/03/29-frp-three-principles-bidirectional-gui.html#the-three… |
| 2024-12-23 03:05:14 +0100 | <EvanR> | thirdofmay18081814goya ^ |
| 2024-12-23 03:05:28 +0100 | <EvanR> | less about low level rendering and more high level responsibilities |
| 2024-12-23 03:05:52 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
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| 2024-12-23 03:09:28 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> neato! thanks for the article |
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| 2024-12-23 10:02:42 +0100 | <Guest33> | Hi, is there a way to produce a native cont monad with just function arrows? |
| 2024-12-23 10:02:57 +0100 | <Guest33> | Assume you can type it properly: |
| 2024-12-23 10:03:39 +0100 | <Guest33> | type Cont r a = (a -> r) -> r |
| 2024-12-23 10:04:01 +0100 | <Guest33> | instance Functor (Cont r) |
| 2024-12-23 10:10:51 +0100 | <Guest33> | Or for that matter, type State s a... |
| 2024-12-23 10:12:27 +0100 | <Guest33> | And honestly it'd result in overlapping instances, so... |
| 2024-12-23 10:12:40 +0100 | <int-e> | you can't even match that instance head |
| 2024-12-23 10:12:49 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-12-23 10:13:25 +0100 | <Guest33> | I know, that's what I'm asking about |
| 2024-12-23 10:13:37 +0100 | <int-e> | This would amount to a type-level lambda which we don't have. |
| 2024-12-23 10:15:25 +0100 | <Guest33> | So there's no way to create an instance for (a -> r) -> r and s -> (s,a), right? |
| 2024-12-23 10:16:29 +0100 | <int-e> | right. Well, I suppose you can try instance r ~ s => Foo ((a -> r) -> s) |
| 2024-12-23 10:16:53 +0100 | <Guest33> | Without newtypes of course, but that's just ContT identity and StateT identity |
| 2024-12-23 10:16:54 +0100 | <int-e> | But that's not what you'd want for Functor. |
| 2024-12-23 10:17:28 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2024-12-23 10:17:50 +0100 | <int-e> | Anyway, use a newtype and that solves this problem. You can think of naming that newtype in your code as hinting to the compiler to introduce the right type-level lambda if you like. |
| 2024-12-23 10:18:30 +0100 | <Guest33> | I mean if you go to newtype, just get Control.Monad.Trans and call it a day |
| 2024-12-23 10:18:38 +0100 | <int-e> | Sure. |
| 2024-12-23 10:18:55 +0100 | <Guest33> | The curiosity is more about naked reader having an instance in base |
| 2024-12-23 10:19:37 +0100 | <Guest33> | Naked cont and naked state apparently can't have an instance, and it's probably a good thing due to overlapping instances |
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| 2024-12-23 15:02:10 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> I need suggestions, i want to eventually make a small prototype of a terraform like tool. Not sure what actual adjective id use, but the gist is that the tool would get the current state, in this case filesystem layout, get the desired state from a config file, compare the two, produce a plan, execute said plan |
| 2024-12-23 15:02:56 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> The compare sounds like a good use case for gdiff. Then if i can make sense of the patch data type, i could form a plan by that |
| 2024-12-23 15:03:45 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-12-23 15:06:35 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> So for those familiar with tmpfilesd, something like that, a bit less stupid and 100% less C |
| 2024-12-23 15:07:06 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | and ur gonna use haskell, right? |
| 2024-12-23 15:07:12 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> Ofc |
| 2024-12-23 15:07:16 +0100 | manny_ | (~quassel@45.134.142.209) (Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) |
| 2024-12-23 15:07:26 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> Isnt this the haskell irc room (: |
| 2024-12-23 15:07:46 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | absolutely, just checking |
| 2024-12-23 15:08:55 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | i dunno from terraform so cant say; often in such cases a related name is used |
| 2024-12-23 15:09:21 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2024-12-23 15:10:31 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> Id call it a "given a current state of a system and a desired out, hammer it into shape" |
| 2024-12-23 15:10:33 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> System |
| 2024-12-23 15:11:03 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | maxwell them maybe (silverhammer) |
| 2024-12-23 15:11:08 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | *then |
| 2024-12-23 15:11:20 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | as a monicker not an adjective |
| 2024-12-23 15:11:32 +0100 | son0p | (~ff@186.121.98.118) son0p |
| 2024-12-23 15:12:04 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | or just silverhammer, but u might wanna rethink hammering on ppls fs |
| 2024-12-23 15:12:28 +0100 | manny_ | (~manny@45.134.142.209) |
| 2024-12-23 15:13:06 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | a plethora of tolls exist for most fs tasks |