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2024-10-30 02:29:07 +0100Inst_(~Inst@user/Inst) Inst
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2024-10-30 02:30:33 +0100Natch(~natch@c-92-34-7-158.bbcust.telenor.se) Natch
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2024-10-30 02:31:06 +0100Inst(~Inst@user/Inst) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2024-10-30 02:31:21 +0100 <Axman6> @unmtl ExceptT e (StateT e IO) a
2024-10-30 02:31:21 +0100 <lambdabot> e -> IO (Either e a, e)
2024-10-30 02:31:23 +0100morb(~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
2024-10-30 02:31:28 +0100 <Axman6> @unmtl ExceptT e (StateT s IO) a
2024-10-30 02:31:28 +0100 <lambdabot> s -> IO (Either e a, s)
2024-10-30 02:31:41 +0100 <Axman6> @unmtl StateT s e (ExceptT e IO) a
2024-10-30 02:31:41 +0100 <lambdabot> err: `s -> e (ExceptT e IO, s)' is not a type function.
2024-10-30 02:31:54 +0100bwolf(c3bc363dd1@2a03:6000:1812:100::180) bwolf
2024-10-30 02:31:55 +0100fvr(ef3e56ca8b@2a03:6000:1812:100::3c4) fvr
2024-10-30 02:32:15 +0100 <Axman6> @unmtl StateT s (ExceptT e IO) a
2024-10-30 02:32:15 +0100 <lambdabot> s -> IO (Either e (a, s))
2024-10-30 02:34:18 +0100Ankhers(e99e97ef8e@2a03:6000:1812:100::2a2) Ankhers
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2024-10-30 03:25:15 +0100Spawns_Carpeting(~mobile@user/spawns-carpeting/x-6969421) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in)
2024-10-30 03:25:33 +0100user363627(~user@user/user363627) user363627
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2024-10-30 03:30:17 +0100Spawns_Carpeting(~mobile@user/spawns-carpeting/x-6969421) Spawns_Carpeting
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2024-10-30 03:54:08 +0100Inst(~Inst@user/Inst) Inst
2024-10-30 03:58:55 +0100L29Ah(~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah
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2024-10-30 05:14:53 +0100ChaiTRex(~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex
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2024-10-30 06:01:39 +0100Inst_(~Inst@user/Inst) Inst
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2024-10-30 06:07:41 +0100 <Inst> thsi is actually pretty great
2024-10-30 06:07:42 +0100 <Inst> https://www.schoolofhaskell.com/user/snoyberg/random-code-snippets/set-is-not-a-functor
2024-10-30 06:07:51 +0100 <Inst> simplest and easiest explanation for why Set cannot be a functor
2024-10-30 06:13:10 +0100 <monochrom> No, it is a strawman argument with doofus Eq and Ord instances.
2024-10-30 06:13:46 +0100 <monochrom> simplest and easiest example why I disregard snoyberg arguments.
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2024-10-30 06:49:03 +0100 <mauke> monochrom: why strawman?
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2024-10-30 06:54:11 +0100 <jackdk> It proves that `Set.map f . Set.map g` is not `Set.map (f . g)` but says nothing about the fact that you cannot write `instance Functor Set where fmap = Set.map` (you don't have the `Ord b` in scope that is required by `Set.map`)
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2024-10-30 07:05:44 +0100 <jackdk> And even then it only proves that non-equivalence in the presence of pathological^Wdoofus `Eq`/`Ord` instances
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2024-10-30 07:09:50 +0100 <mauke> that's like saying all primes are odd because the counterexample of 2 is "doofus"
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2024-10-30 07:37:57 +0100 <jackdk> Nah all primes are odd once you correct for measurement error
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2024-10-30 07:48:18 +0100 <Leary> The instances are lawful if the contents of the newtype cannot be inspected, otherwise they're just awful.
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2024-10-30 09:33:42 +0100 <Inst> jackdk: isn't that more about implementation details?
2024-10-30 09:34:04 +0100 <Inst> Actually, I see where monochrom is right and Snoyman's wrong here, because the Haskell Set a is not a proper Set, but its interface assumes it is
2024-10-30 09:35:37 +0100 <Inst> ah, so you can orphan instance Set into Functor, cool, except it's not a true Set you're orphan instancing but rather a size-balanced binary tree
2024-10-30 09:37:37 +0100 <Inst> cool, Set exports its constructors so Set is technically broken
2024-10-30 09:38:32 +0100 <Inst> also, the reason I showed up this time was to ask
2024-10-30 09:38:55 +0100 <Inst> is it true to say that, ignoring laziness, Haskell has no implicit state?
2024-10-30 09:39:22 +0100 <Inst> i.e, all state is explicit and is notated in the type system (IO / State / Reader ... etc)
2024-10-30 09:45:52 +0100ph88(~ph88@2a02:8109:9e26:c800:3808:5ad1:785a:e722) ph88
2024-10-30 09:46:24 +0100 <ph88> Could any type wizards have a look at this code? https://play.haskell.org/saved/io5gf3oy
2024-10-30 09:50:32 +0100merijn(~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn
2024-10-30 09:53:15 +0100 <Inst> hmmm, weird, Set(..) should import all the constructors
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2024-10-30 09:56:29 +0100 <tomsmeding> ph88: https://play.haskell.org/saved/gbALp3A0
2024-10-30 09:57:37 +0100 <tomsmeding> ph88: a let-binding is lazy, so it cannot generate any type evidence: to be certain that the type evidence you discover (such as equalities) is actually valid, you have to evaluate the proof (the GADT constructor) to WHNF
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2024-10-30 09:58:20 +0100 <tomsmeding> GHC goes even further and disallows the let-binding altogether, I'm not sure what the technical reason for that is, but it couldn't work anyway
2024-10-30 09:59:04 +0100 <tomsmeding> (indeed, a bang pattern is insufficient, you really need a case)
2024-10-30 09:59:15 +0100 <tomsmeding> something to do with scoping of existential type variables, probably
2024-10-30 10:01:24 +0100merijn(~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn
2024-10-30 10:03:31 +0100 <tomsmeding> ph88: if you don't like the case then a pattern guard also suffices https://play.haskell.org/saved/HDgQPO9u, and you can even put the `let childName2` as a guard too
2024-10-30 10:05:35 +0100 <Inst> ah, I misread the CPP, Set only exports the type if it's not ni Testing, so it's opaque
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2024-10-30 10:05:47 +0100 <tomsmeding> Inst: looking at the haddocks is easier :p
2024-10-30 10:05:56 +0100 <tomsmeding> the constructors are only exposed from the .Internal module, which seems fine
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2024-10-30 10:08:31 +0100 <Inst> what's going on with Set, anyways?
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2024-10-30 10:09:03 +0100 <Inst> empty :: Set a; i.e, without constraint
2024-10-30 10:09:30 +0100 <Inst> it's possible to create a Set using Set.singleton that, ummm, can't have elements added to or removed from it
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2024-10-30 10:12:02 +0100 <Inst> i mean, unless i'm wrong about Set, i'm going to stop kicking the tires, I don't think much of containers
2024-10-30 10:13:11 +0100ljdarj(~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj
2024-10-30 10:15:38 +0100 <tomsmeding> that is possible
2024-10-30 10:15:41 +0100 <tomsmeding> why is that a problem?
2024-10-30 10:16:25 +0100 <tomsmeding> you can fully consistently create a one-element set and then request a list of all elements in the set in increasing order
2024-10-30 10:16:27 +0100merijn(~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn
2024-10-30 10:16:44 +0100 <tomsmeding> not sure what's wrong with that
2024-10-30 10:16:49 +0100 <tomsmeding> though it's not terribly useful
2024-10-30 10:17:07 +0100 <Inst> thanks for showing i'm probably wrong about Set being weird
2024-10-30 10:17:38 +0100 <tomsmeding> the type class system ensures that if you ask for an Ord a dictionary, then you'll always get the same one
2024-10-30 10:17:53 +0100 <tomsmeding> so Set doesn't need to "save" the dictionary somehow when creating a new set, it can just request it whenever it needs it
2024-10-30 10:18:15 +0100 <tomsmeding> and you can create a singleton set without needing the dictionary, so why ask for it?
2024-10-30 10:23:53 +0100 <Inst> so it's a performance optimization
2024-10-30 10:24:01 +0100preflex(~preflex@user/preflex) preflex
2024-10-30 10:24:11 +0100 <Inst> is Set generally (not always) more performant than list, given that it's an ordered size-balanced binary tree?
2024-10-30 10:24:25 +0100 <tomsmeding> for what operations?
2024-10-30 10:24:30 +0100AlexNoo(~AlexNoo@178.34.150.252)
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2024-10-30 10:24:39 +0100 <tomsmeding> some things are faster for Set, some things are slower