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| 2026-04-08 16:08:18 +0000 | <gentauro> | danza: Elm has `syntactic versioning`. I think `unison` is the only one with "real" semantic versining |
| 2026-04-08 16:07:27 +0000 | <c_wraith> | It also has awkward limitations. I believe it supports alpha renaming when determining if code is "the same", but not most other trivial refactorings of the token sequence. |
| 2026-04-08 16:03:55 +0000 | <c_wraith> | this has its own downsides. If there's a bug in a function, fixing it means updating every place it was called by content. |
| 2026-04-08 16:02:48 +0000 | AlexNoo_ | AlexNoo |
| 2026-04-08 16:02:44 +0000 | <c_wraith> | function calls are content-addressable. |
| 2026-04-08 16:02:11 +0000 | <c_wraith> | the point of comparison, Unison, is an unusual one. It's not actually the version control that does that. It's the language itself. |
| 2026-04-08 16:01:30 +0000 | <danza> | but having a version control tool that is language-specific sounds too demanding to me. I would rather live without the feature |
| 2026-04-08 16:00:25 +0000 | <danza> | yeah makes sense |
| 2026-04-08 16:00:07 +0000 | jmcantrell_ | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2026-04-08 15:59:48 +0000 | <geekosaur> | this wouldn't happen with semantics-aware VC |
| 2026-04-08 15:59:29 +0000 | <geekosaur> | so for a concrete example, cabal is still using an ancient fourmolu because if/when we upgrade and reformat the code base, backports will conflict due to whitespace changes and possibly line splitting |
| 2026-04-08 15:58:15 +0000 | <danza> | oh i see. Cheers geekosaur |
| 2026-04-08 15:56:46 +0000 | <geekosaur> | the former impacts compatibility, the latter is about VCS thrashing |
| 2026-04-08 15:55:25 +0000 | <geekosaur> | different application of "semantic": you're talking about exposed API, the usage here is code meaning whether exposed or not |
| 2026-04-08 15:53:09 +0000 | <danza> | some languages (elm?) have the version numbers calculated automatically depending on interface changes, but that's another story |
| 2026-04-08 15:52:20 +0000 | <danza> | haskell already has semantic versioning, as far as i understand it. Version numbers should reflect a version's compatibility |
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| 2026-04-08 15:29:40 +0000 | gentauro | source: https://www.unison-lang.org/docs/what-problems-does-unison-solve/ |
| 2026-04-08 15:29:30 +0000 | <gentauro> | I wonder if it would be possible to have truly "semantic versining" in Haskell, just like `unison` has it -> «Semantic version control. Unison's version control is language-aware. There are no conflicts due to code formatting or whitespace, order of imports, order of definitions in a file, or any other differences that aren't semantically meaningful» |
| 2026-04-08 15:28:59 +0000 | <gentauro> | ski: likes to code one way, and I code another |
| 2026-04-08 15:28:37 +0000 | <gentauro> | Bowuigi: yes |
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| 2026-04-08 15:25:19 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> Certified spanglish moment |
| 2026-04-08 15:23:39 +0000 | <gentauro> | [exa]: oh yeah, that's the one -> https://hackage-content.haskell.org/package/base-4.22.0.0/docs/Data-Function.html#v:-38- |
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