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| 2025-11-28 17:53:11 +0100 | ouilemur | (~jgmerritt@user/ouilemur) ouilemur |
| 2025-11-28 17:52:49 +0100 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
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| 2025-11-28 17:47:32 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
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| 2025-11-28 17:33:44 +0100 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
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| 2025-11-28 17:28:54 +0100 | ttybitnik | (~ttybitnik@user/wolper) ttybitnik |
| 2025-11-28 17:28:17 +0100 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) jmcantrell |
| 2025-11-28 17:26:45 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-11-28 17:24:57 +0100 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a02:8071:64e1:da0:5a47:caff:fe78:33db) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-11-28 17:24:32 +0100 | <milan> | Hmm... now I found arm build for linux... so I expect it to "work". Why I thought otherwise? Maybe I was lost by reading old articles about arm support from 2014 :D |
| 2025-11-28 17:19:01 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | right, I think the ghcup bindists don't work in termux (possibly path reasons), but yes the termux repos have a ghc |
| 2025-11-28 17:18:16 +0100 | <fgarcia> | actually, come to think of it. i use android with termux and my phone is arm. i have been able to run some code on that and even though it is .deb the packages are newer than what some distros have! |
| 2025-11-28 17:17:28 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | some of my colleagues do that |
| 2025-11-28 17:17:19 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | fgarcia: on apple silicon I know for sure that using ghcup just works |
| 2025-11-28 17:17:02 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | milan: so it's possible that if you just try using ghcup, things will just work on your target |
| 2025-11-28 17:16:40 +0100 | <fgarcia> | this is interesting to me. i think there might be arm builds https://ports.macports.org/port/ghc/details/ . some things on the page are 'Version: 9.12.2' and '✓ Tahoe (arm64)' which seems quite recent |
| 2025-11-28 17:16:28 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | milan: ghcup has versions for aarch64-deb10-linux and aarch64-apple-darwin |
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| 2025-11-28 17:15:27 +0100 | <milan> | THank you.. I will look some more info online. |
| 2025-11-28 17:15:24 +0100 | FirefoxDeHuk82 | (~FirefoxDe@user/FirefoxDeHuk) FirefoxDeHuk |
| 2025-11-28 17:15:17 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-11-28 17:14:41 +0100 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2025-11-28 17:14:20 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | nowadays at least some ARM targets are supported natively |
| 2025-11-28 17:14:09 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yeah in the 8.* series, you needed LLVM to make things work on ARM |
| 2025-11-28 17:13:50 +0100 | <milan> | tomsmeding: Not yet...and this might be outdated view that we dont have ghc on arm. |
| 2025-11-28 17:13:30 +0100 | <milan> | And maybe rpi.. |
| 2025-11-28 17:13:24 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | have you tried it? |
| 2025-11-28 17:13:13 +0100 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-11-28 17:13:12 +0100 | <milan> | But I have a dream to use it in android phones. |
| 2025-11-28 17:13:09 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | this is an innovation of the 9.0- series though |
| 2025-11-28 17:13:00 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-11-28 17:12:31 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | the GHC native code generator works perfectly fine at least on Apple Silicon |
| 2025-11-28 17:12:21 +0100 | <milan> | Does it? |
| 2025-11-28 17:12:09 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | also doesn't GHC support ARM these days? |
| 2025-11-28 17:11:40 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | everything else is LLVM already anyway |
| 2025-11-28 17:11:34 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | personally I would be sad if GHC went LLVM-only because having a monoculture of anything is bad for progress |
| 2025-11-28 17:11:27 +0100 | <milan> | Ah.. so tradeof |
| 2025-11-28 17:11:18 +0100 | <milan> | tomsmeding: Yeah, so both can be used and both needs to be maintained? Which is more work to just support LLVM? |
| 2025-11-28 17:11:18 +0100 | lucabtz | (~lucabtz@user/lucabtz) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-11-28 17:10:56 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | common wisdom is that it tends to bring improvement on highly numerical, tight code (because LLVM does auto-vectorisation), and is slightly worse on very haskell-y code |
| 2025-11-28 17:10:25 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | milan: you can tell GHC to use LLVM (-fllvm), but you're probably aware of that |