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2024-11-08 17:56:40 +0100 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> its just: between (symbol "(") (symbol ")") parseOp <|> parseOpEqual <|> parseOpNot <|> parseOpIn <|> parseOpOr <|> parseOpAnd
2024-11-08 17:56:25 +0100 <EvanR> ok then ignore me
2024-11-08 17:56:13 +0100 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> i have no idea how to do that, i now assume that parens are gonna be there
2024-11-08 17:56:01 +0100 <EvanR> or not because parens required
2024-11-08 17:55:49 +0100 <EvanR> are -> and || operators with precedence
2024-11-08 17:55:27 +0100 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> ("bar" -> tags) || ("foo" -> tags) like that
2024-11-08 17:55:18 +0100 <geekosaur> yin, I think optics or not is more of a stylistic choice. and Haskell is not Python with its "there is only One True Way" mentality
2024-11-08 17:55:14 +0100 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> uh, my bridge may have screwed it up, ignore the out ones
2024-11-08 17:55:11 +0100 <EvanR> sounds tricky
2024-11-08 17:54:51 +0100 <EvanR> nested quotation marks?
2024-11-08 17:54:27 +0100 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> I need help with parsing, ive been banging my head against this one for far too long, ive the following simple DSL https://paste.tomsmeding.com/s7OHAeBW and while i can parse "("people" -> tags)" i cannot parse "("bar" -> tags) || ("foo" -> tags)" and i for the life of me cannot figure out why
2024-11-08 17:54:16 +0100 <EvanR> leaky abstractions is just a strong relatively verifiable claim
2024-11-08 17:53:53 +0100 <yin> but i completely accept that people find it useful
2024-11-08 17:53:33 +0100 <yin> i think that if i get myself into a place where optics would make thing easier, it's because i'm doing something wrong. structured the program the wrong way or something like that
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2024-11-08 17:51:46 +0100 <yin> that starts getting into the dozen paragraphs i can't commit to writing right now
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2024-11-08 17:48:28 +0100 <EvanR> I guess I heard of this or that "lens that's not a true lens" or something
2024-11-08 17:47:52 +0100 <EvanR> leaky abstractions? in optics?
2024-11-08 17:46:47 +0100 <yin> apart from introducing complexity, hard to reason about performance penalties and arguably inevitably leaky abstractions, which i guess you can say still belongs to the realm of stylistic preference, i think it goes against one of the main reasons why *I* choose to use Haskell, which is managing complexity and making things more maintainable (for some definition of maintainable)
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2024-11-08 17:32:03 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> yin "mostly" implies that you have non-stylistic arguments too, what are they?
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2024-11-08 17:21:38 +0100 <merijn> I mean, I rarely use optics, but sometimes they just make things infinitely easier :)
2024-11-08 17:19:38 +0100 <yin> merijn: i could write a dozen paragraphs about it but it all comes down to personal stylistic preferences (mostly)
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