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2024-11-08 20:05:10 +0100 <ncf> or pure @T @(T a)
2024-11-08 20:04:40 +0100shapr(~user@2601:19c:417e:5434:6d2c:aeb2:81b3:3df4) shapr
2024-11-08 20:04:30 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2024-11-08 20:04:06 +0100 <ncf> in haskell, Tη is fmap @T pure, while ηT is pure @(T a)
2024-11-08 20:03:29 +0100 <ncf> also called horizontal compositions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_transformation#Operations_with_natural_transformations
2024-11-08 20:03:09 +0100 <ncf> famubu: those are whiskerings
2024-11-08 20:00:18 +0100 <tomsmeding> perhaps wait until someone like ncf comes along lol
2024-11-08 20:00:09 +0100 <tomsmeding> I'm not sure what I just said is correct
2024-11-08 19:59:51 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-11-08 19:58:51 +0100 <tomsmeding> the difference is that the source and target of T(mu_X) have an additional T() around them
2024-11-08 19:58:37 +0100 <tomsmeding> see e.g. the third commutative diagram: you have mu_X on the bottom arrow, and T(mu_X) on the top arrow
2024-11-08 19:58:10 +0100 <tomsmeding> they denote that by applying T to the natural transformation
2024-11-08 19:57:56 +0100 <tomsmeding> if you have a natural transformation between two functors T1 and T2, and a functor T, then you can build a natural transformation from T . T1 to T . T2
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2024-11-08 19:56:51 +0100 <tomsmeding> famubu: a functor from C to C' consists of a mapping from Ob C to Ob C' and a mapping from the arrows in C to the arrows in C'
2024-11-08 19:51:56 +0100 <famubu> I am not that familiar with category theory.
2024-11-08 19:51:49 +0100 <famubu> * `T` is a functor.
2024-11-08 19:51:35 +0100 <famubu> is a functor. That means it's like a function whose 'argument' is a category, right? And `η` is a natural transformation, not a category.
2024-11-08 19:51:31 +0100 <famubu> I could understand `η T` part. It does the 'opposite' of flattening.
2024-11-08 19:51:19 +0100 <famubu> What is the difference between the two?
2024-11-08 19:51:16 +0100 <famubu> The commutative diagram and properties mention both `T ηand `η T`.
2024-11-08 19:51:13 +0100 <famubu> I was looking at the wikipedia page for monad in category theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad_(category_theory)#Formal_definition
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2024-11-08 19:45:53 +0100 <kqr> merijn, Numeric looks good for what I need. Thanks!
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