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| 2026-01-15 00:19:37 +0100 | Googulator15 | Googulator |
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| 2026-01-15 00:23:31 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@62.45.136.136) merijn |
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| 2026-01-15 01:37:14 +0100 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@88-114-88-95.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Quit: Leaving.) |
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| 2026-01-15 04:44:25 +0100 | jumper149 | (~jumper149@base.felixspringer.xyz) (Quit: WeeChat 4.7.1) |
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| 2026-01-15 06:30:24 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0 |
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| 2026-01-15 06:39:37 +0100 | mange | (~mange@user/mange) (Quit: Quittin' time!) |
| 2026-01-15 06:40:44 +0100 | chromoblob | (~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2026-01-15 07:12:43 +0100 | kimiamania3 | (~9566fa0a@user/kimiamania) kimiamania |
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| 2026-01-15 07:46:41 +0100 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) Lycurgus |
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| 2026-01-15 07:58:53 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-01-15 08:09:22 +0100 | <gentauro> | anybody know what to pass to `nix shell --extra-experimental-features flakes--extra-experimental-features nix-command--inputs-from .` (https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/blob/stable/flake.nix) if I only want to limit the build? In cabal it would be to the CLI: `cabal install simplex-chat` (https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/blob/stable/simplex-chat.cabal#L410) |
| 2026-01-15 08:10:14 +0100 | <gentauro> | https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/blob/stable/docs/CLI.md#in-any-os |
| 2026-01-15 08:14:31 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:1931:5674:15e5:cfb0) |
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| 2026-01-15 08:28:47 +0100 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) (Quit: alsoknownas.renjuan.org ( juan@acm.org )) |
| 2026-01-15 08:30:28 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-01-15 09:19:55 +0100 | durstloescher | (~textual@2a02:8109:1b01:2500:d98f:f3fd:cd44:a6b3) |
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| 2026-01-15 09:21:23 +0100 | jreicher | (~joelr@user/jreicher) jreicher |
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| 2026-01-15 11:51:00 +0100 | <ncf> | limit the build? to what? |
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| 2026-01-15 13:08:32 +0100 | ttybitnik | (~ttybitnik@user/wolper) ttybitnik |
| 2026-01-15 13:10:53 +0100 | <gentauro> | ncf: only to the `executable simplex-chat` -> https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/blob/stable/simplex-chat.cabal#L410 |
| 2026-01-15 13:11:06 +0100 | <gentauro> | there are many libs and execs in that .cabal file. I don't need to build `bots` and so. |
| 2026-01-15 13:11:37 +0100 | <gentauro> | like I stated, it's "easy" with `cabal`. But how do I replicate that approach with `nix shell flakes` |
| 2026-01-15 13:12:02 +0100 | <ncf> | nix build .#<tab> will tell you what's available |
| 2026-01-15 13:12:13 +0100 | <ncf> | nix shell doesn't build anything, it spawns a shell with the build dependencies |
| 2026-01-15 13:13:42 +0100 | <gentauro> | ncf: well, this is how I build `opencode` from its `latest` branch: `nix shell --extra-experimental-features flakes --extra-experimental-features nix-command --inputs-from .` |
| 2026-01-15 13:14:21 +0100 | <ncf> | no it isn't |
| 2026-01-15 13:14:27 +0100 | <gentauro> | I just thought it was the same with other `flake.nix` files. My bad |
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| 2026-01-15 16:13:16 +0100 | <thenightmail> | why is there no associativity for equality, inequality and comparison operators |
| 2026-01-15 16:15:38 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
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| 2026-01-15 16:17:58 +0100 | <chromoblob> | how would inequality associativity be useful |
| 2026-01-15 16:19:21 +0100 | <chromoblob> | to actually answer: x == y == z is banned because it cannot have the meaning it seems to have |
| 2026-01-15 16:19:32 +0100 | qqq | (~qqq@185.54.21.105) |
| 2026-01-15 16:20:10 +0100 | <chromoblob> | because the result of one comparing is a Bool, thus you would next compare this Bool to another operand |
| 2026-01-15 16:20:24 +0100 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) Sgeo |
| 2026-01-15 16:21:22 +0100 | <chromoblob> | and authors of language didn't think that it would be a good idea to forego rule and special-case these operators so that it means what you want it to mean |
| 2026-01-15 16:21:34 +0100 | <thenightmail> | i see, this question is a problem from a book. the hint is to 'write down the simplest expression you can think of that would require the associativity rules to resolve the precedence of comparison operators and try to make sense of it' |
| 2026-01-15 16:22:08 +0100 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) (Quit: Bye!) |
| 2026-01-15 16:26:33 +0100 | <thenightmail> | I'm not fully grasping it, maybe x == y == z is what they are referring to, but I will move on for now in case it makes sense later with more context. thanks for the answers |
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| 2026-01-15 16:53:38 +0100 | catties | (~catties@user/meow/catties) catties |
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| 2026-01-15 17:03:56 +0100 | Inline | (~User@cgn-195-14-218-118.nc.de) Inline |
| 2026-01-15 17:05:13 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | chromoblob: "authors of language" -- authors of _this_ language. The authors of Python did think this was a good idea |
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| 2026-01-15 18:00:07 +0100 | <monochrom> | "associativity" talks about whether "(x == y) == z" and "x == (y == z)" are the same or not. So those are the two expressions the hint wants you to look at. If they were the same, can you see a type error? |
| 2026-01-15 18:00:56 +0100 | <monochrom> | (Fun fact: But if x,y,z are all Bool, then they are the same. Draw a truth table to see and be shocked. :) ) |
| 2026-01-15 18:01:16 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | (because == on Bools is <=>) |
| 2026-01-15 18:02:20 +0100 | <monochrom> | It is surprising but handy that both == and /= (xor) are commutative associative and with identities. |
| 2026-01-15 18:07:17 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |
| 2026-01-15 18:07:44 +0100 | <monochrom> | Alternatively, you can legalize "x == y == z" but you say it does not mean "(x == y) == z" or "x == (y == z)". You say it means "x == y && y == z". This is what mathematicians did. (You can trust that they are pros and they know what they're doing, right? Right? >:) ) |
| 2026-01-15 18:08:29 +0100 | <monochrom> | (Hint: They are pros in math content, but not math syntax.) |
| 2026-01-15 18:08:36 +0100 | <monochrom> | (or any syntax) |
| 2026-01-15 18:08:37 +0100 | <danza> | :t (<=>) |
| 2026-01-15 18:08:38 +0100 | <lambdabot> | error: [GHC-88464] |
| 2026-01-15 18:08:38 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Variable not in scope: <=> |
| 2026-01-15 18:08:38 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Suggested fix: |
| 2026-01-15 18:08:49 +0100 | <monochrom> | Oh, <=> is iff. |
| 2026-01-15 18:12:14 +0100 | euphores | (~SASL_euph@user/euphores) euphores |
| 2026-01-15 18:12:52 +0100 | <danza> | cheers monochrom |
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| 2026-01-15 18:48:06 +0100 | EvanR | (~EvanR@user/evanr) EvanR |
| 2026-01-15 18:57:54 +0100 | <dolio> | I expect the "associativity" in the question is not about that associativity. It sounds like it's asking about the rules on how parentheses are automatically inserted. |
| 2026-01-15 18:58:05 +0100 | <dolio> | Not about whether how they're inserted matters. |
| 2026-01-15 19:00:24 +0100 | <dolio> | Even though (==) is associative as an operation on Bool, Haskell will refuse to accept `x == y == z`. |
| 2026-01-15 19:01:24 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
| 2026-01-15 19:04:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that seems pretty obvious to me, since as defined either associativity makes the "other" one a comparison on `Bool` |
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| 2026-01-15 20:12:25 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | I feel like the nonassociativity of the (==) operator in haskell is mostly because it is polymorphic. Had it been monomorphic for Bool, I'm sure it would have been made associative (in some direction) |
| 2026-01-15 20:13:02 +0100 | <dolio> | Yeah. |
| 2026-01-15 20:16:19 +0100 | <dolio> | The problem is that in situations with other types, the way parentheses are inserted affects whether it's well typed. |
| 2026-01-15 20:16:55 +0100 | <dolio> | And that's kind of a dumb thing to depend on. |
| 2026-01-15 20:17:32 +0100 | <__monty__> | tomsmeding: I'm not so sure, `False == False == True` doesn't seem very useful. |
| 2026-01-15 20:17:36 +0100 | <dolio> | Also the binary operator on booleans is pretty niche. |
| 2026-01-15 20:18:44 +0100 | <__monty__> | Are there any languages where a successful equality check "returns" the value, while an unsuccessful check returns False or something? |
| 2026-01-15 20:19:07 +0100 | <ncf> | equality is a relation, not an operator. asking whether a relation is associative is usually a type error, except in the case where the relation is on propositions (in this case decidable ones), but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to do it |
| 2026-01-15 20:19:53 +0100 | <ncf> | (also, logical equivalence is not actually associative constructively, is it?) |
| 2026-01-15 20:20:12 +0100 | <dolio> | This isn't a relation. It's a decision procedure for a relation. |
| 2026-01-15 20:20:23 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-15 20:20:42 +0100 | <dolio> | The induced operator on booleans calculates parity. |
| 2026-01-15 20:22:37 +0100 | Hardyhardhard | (~Hardyhard@user/hardyhardhard) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2026-01-15 20:23:26 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | __monty__: sure :p |
| 2026-01-15 20:24:05 +0100 | jle` | (~jle`@2603:8001:3b00:11::1156) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2026-01-15 20:24:57 +0100 | Hardyhardhard | (~Hardyhard@user/hardyhardhard) hardyhardhard |
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| 2026-01-15 20:25:33 +0100 | <dolio> | Or wait, (/=) is parity. (==) is like anti-parity or something. |
| 2026-01-15 20:26:12 +0100 | <dolio> | Parity for the 0 bits instead of 1 bits. |
| 2026-01-15 20:26:52 +0100 | jreicher | (~joelr@user/jreicher) (Quit: In transit) |
| 2026-01-15 20:29:33 +0100 | <__monty__> | Maybe the right type for (==) should be `Eq a => Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a`? Then we can get associativity. |
| 2026-01-15 20:32:11 +0100 | <monochrom> | A relation is a function. A function is an operator. So a relation is also an operator. >:) |
| 2026-01-15 20:33:03 +0100 | <monochrom> | We have a real type system, so we don't need artificial lines between relations, functions, numbers, values, constants. |
| 2026-01-15 20:38:01 +0100 | Lord_of_Life_ | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life |
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| 2026-01-15 20:39:20 +0100 | Lord_of_Life_ | Lord_of_Life |
| 2026-01-15 20:44:16 +0100 | Hardyhardhard | (~Hardyhard@user/hardyhardhard) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2026-01-15 20:48:11 +0100 | <ncf> | have you heard of concepts with attitudes |
| 2026-01-15 20:48:28 +0100 | <ncf> | the intended meaning of a R b R c when R is a relation is a R b ∧ b R c |
| 2026-01-15 20:49:08 +0100 | <ncf> | the intended meaning of a O b O c when O is a (homogeneous, binary, associative) operator is a O (b O c) |
| 2026-01-15 20:49:15 +0100 | <ncf> | those are extremely different! |
| 2026-01-15 20:49:21 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-15 20:50:21 +0100 | bitdex_ | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2026-01-15 20:50:21 +0100 | <dolio> | ncf: Definitely seems like the associativity is not constructive. |
| 2026-01-15 20:50:27 +0100 | <ncf> | yeah i don't think it is |
| 2026-01-15 20:50:38 +0100 | <ncf> | can you prove a taboo from it? |
| 2026-01-15 20:54:18 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2026-01-15 20:59:04 +0100 | ttybitnik | (~ttybitnik@user/wolper) ttybitnik |
| 2026-01-15 21:01:41 +0100 | <monochrom> | I have not heard of concepts with attitudes. But my thesis supervisor coined "continuing" for R in the 1990's. (E.g., https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hehner/aPToP/aPToP.pdf last page.) We can do this by invoking "syntax sugar" on a per-operator basis. We don't need anything more profound or advanced. |
| 2026-01-15 21:04:00 +0100 | <ncf> | you say continuing operator i say relation |
| 2026-01-15 21:04:32 +0100 | <[exa]> | (binary relations are overrated) |
| 2026-01-15 21:05:12 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-15 21:06:32 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-01-15 21:06:46 +0100 | <[exa]> | anyway I saw this somewhere with matlabby dots, like (a <. b .< c), it even extended to (a <. b .<. c .< d) |
| 2026-01-15 21:06:48 +0100 | <monochrom> | The difference between yours and mine is that I say that a continuing operator is still an operator, just that it enjoys syntax sugar, whereas you say that it is not even an operator. |
| 2026-01-15 21:08:27 +0100 | <geekosaur> | Icon lets you do this chaining, but it's not using a mechanism Haskell could make use of (it's solidly based in its "failure" semantic) |
| 2026-01-15 21:10:19 +0100 | <dolio> | Haskell should just extend its rules so that lexing depends not only on parsing, but type checking. |
| 2026-01-15 21:10:20 +0100 | <[exa]> | btw Julia had a special case for that too: Meta.show_sexpr(:(a <= b < c)) == (:comparison, :a, :<=, :b, :<, :c) |
| 2026-01-15 21:10:31 +0100 | <[exa]> | dolio: <3 |
| 2026-01-15 21:11:40 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-15 21:11:47 +0100 | <monochrom> | Speaking of which, how is RecordDot done? |
| 2026-01-15 21:12:13 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex |
| 2026-01-15 21:13:16 +0100 | <ncf> | dolio: by yoneda this reduces to ((A ↔ B) ↔ A) ↔ B and the nontrivial direction is →, which is almost curry's paradox except with A ↔ B instead of A → B |
| 2026-01-15 21:13:24 +0100 | <dolio> | ncf: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/a6qxdKdh |
| 2026-01-15 21:13:29 +0100 | <ncf> | which is a conversation i remember having but don't remember the conclusion |
| 2026-01-15 21:13:38 +0100 | <ncf> | aha |
| 2026-01-15 21:14:07 +0100 | <ncf> | oh right, if you take A = ⊥ you get ¬¬B ↔ B |
| 2026-01-15 21:14:14 +0100 | <ncf> | cool |
| 2026-01-15 21:18:18 +0100 | <monochrom> | Oh nice, one more way to restore classical logic. :) |
| 2026-01-15 21:21:17 +0100 | <davean> | dolio: and end up like C++? Lol |
| 2026-01-15 21:21:20 +0100 | <monochrom> | (I had known of: choose one: EM, double-negation elim, Pierce.) |
| 2026-01-15 21:23:15 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-01-15 21:29:41 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) peterbecich |
| 2026-01-15 21:30:37 +0100 | target_i | (~target_i@user/target-i/x-6023099) target_i |
| 2026-01-15 21:30:56 +0100 | collide2954 | (~collide29@user/collide2954) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
| 2026-01-15 21:31:43 +0100 | collide2954 | (~collide29@user/collide2954) collide2954 |
| 2026-01-15 21:36:01 +0100 | <dolio> | davean: Does C++ do that, too? I thought that was perl's distinction. |
| 2026-01-15 21:36:21 +0100 | <dolio> | I guess perl has to actually evaluate code. |
| 2026-01-15 21:37:42 +0100 | <davean> | dolio: https://blog.reverberate.org/2013/08/parsing-c-is-literally-undecidable.html "C++ grammar: the type name vs object name issue" and others |
| 2026-01-15 21:38:47 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-15 21:40:35 +0100 | divlamir | (~divlamir@user/divlamir) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2026-01-15 21:41:03 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |
| 2026-01-15 21:42:11 +0100 | <dolio> | Anyhow, as I said, Haskell can take it to the next level by making lexing undecidable. |
| 2026-01-15 21:42:23 +0100 | <dolio> | That's innovation. |
| 2026-01-15 21:42:25 +0100 | <humasect> | yeah |
| 2026-01-15 21:42:52 +0100 | divlamir | (~divlamir@user/divlamir) divlamir |
| 2026-01-15 21:42:59 +0100 | <monochrom> | TypeDirectedLexicalResolution? >:) |
| 2026-01-15 21:43:35 +0100 | jreicher | (~joelr@user/jreicher) jreicher |
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| 2026-01-15 21:43:37 +0100 | Enrico63 | (~Enrico63@2001:b07:646b:5fed:9efc:e8ff:fe24:3213) Enrico63 |
| 2026-01-15 21:46:01 +0100 | <[exa]> | -XLexicalKinds |
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| 2026-01-15 21:51:08 +0100 | <jreicher> | thenightmail: I'm fairly sure in mathematics the comparison "operators" are not operators at all. In algebra an operator on a set produces another element from the same set. Comparison, on the other hand, is a predicate. |
| 2026-01-15 21:52:58 +0100 | <c_wraith> | > LT `compare` GT |
| 2026-01-15 21:52:59 +0100 | <lambdabot> | LT |
| 2026-01-15 21:53:03 +0100 | <c_wraith> | it's closed! |
| 2026-01-15 21:53:04 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-84-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-15 21:54:35 +0100 | <jreicher> | monochrom: a function is a relation, but the converse is not true |
| 2026-01-15 21:55:31 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-15 21:55:46 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-84-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2026-01-15 22:01:25 +0100 | <EvanR> | you can get a relation for any function, then functions don't need to be implemented as literal relations if you don't want them to be! |
| 2026-01-15 22:01:55 +0100 | <int-e> | "in mathematics" - there is no such thing really; mathematicians will take whatever view is most convenient in a context. In classical logic, predicates can and will be used as functions. Logicians who want to allow logics without the law of excluded middle will disagree. |
| 2026-01-15 22:02:54 +0100 | <int-e> | First-order logic has many-sorted variants. There are algebras with more than one carrier set and operators that aren't homogenous either, like vector spaces. |
| 2026-01-15 22:03:35 +0100 | <EvanR> | math entities are a pure construction of the mind |
| 2026-01-15 22:03:49 +0100 | <EvanR> | :D |
| 2026-01-15 22:04:33 +0100 | <EvanR> | how concepts interrelate is more interesting than "what they are really" |
| 2026-01-15 22:04:49 +0100 | <EvanR> | sometimes taking the place of |
| 2026-01-15 22:06:56 +0100 | <dolio> | jreicher: But does every relation contain a function? |
| 2026-01-15 22:07:38 +0100 | <EvanR> | you can get a relation for any function also lets you avoid subtyping |
| 2026-01-15 22:08:39 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-15 22:09:22 +0100 | <dolio> | jreicher: Also, relations are functions in that they are maps into a collection of truth values. |
| 2026-01-15 22:09:49 +0100 | <dolio> | Not that every relation from A to B is a function from A to B. |