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| 2026-01-03 00:38:48 +0100 | Inline | (~User@cgn-195-14-221-74.nc.de) Inline |
| 2026-01-03 00:39:50 +0100 | <yin> | huge tangent but I just reminded myself of someone using sleep to efficiently sort a list of ints |
| 2026-01-03 00:40:13 +0100 | <geekosaur> | snerk |
| 2026-01-03 00:42:55 +0100 | <yin> | apparently they call it sleep sort now |
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| 2026-01-03 01:32:58 +0100 | <monochrom> | Does it mean that if the list to be sorted is [n] then it will sleep for n units of time? So Ω(n) time for sorting a singleton list? That's efficient? |
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| 2026-01-03 01:37:43 +0100 | <geekosaur> | for a specific definitoon of "efficient" 🙂 |
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| 2026-01-03 02:51:47 +0100 | <epitron> | You can speed it up by a factor of 1000 by only sleeping for 1ms |
| 2026-01-03 02:52:02 +0100 | wennefer0 | (~wennefer0@user/wennefer0) wennefer0 |
| 2026-01-03 02:52:38 +0100 | <epitron> | Also its runtime is the largest value in the list, not the list size |
| 2026-01-03 02:52:58 +0100 | wennefer0 | (~wennefer0@user/wennefer0) (Client Quit) |
| 2026-01-03 02:53:10 +0100 | epitron | sleep sort expert |
| 2026-01-03 02:54:56 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-03 02:56:09 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |
| 2026-01-03 02:59:20 +0100 | wennefer0 | (~wennefer0@user/wennefer0) wennefer0 |
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| 2026-01-03 03:02:08 +0100 | wennefer0 | (~wennefer0@user/wennefer0) (Client Quit) |
| 2026-01-03 03:04:44 +0100 | <monochrom> | > 2^64 / 1000 / 86400 |
| 2026-01-03 03:04:51 +0100 | <monochrom> | % 2^64 / 1000 / 86400 |
| 2026-01-03 03:04:51 +0100 | <yahb2> | 2.135039823346013e11 |
| 2026-01-03 03:04:55 +0100 | <monochrom> | That's 2 days. |
| 2026-01-03 03:05:35 +0100 | <monochrom> | It means that if I sort a list of just a few 64-bit numbers I'm already waiting 2 days. |
| 2026-01-03 03:08:00 +0100 | wennefer0 | (~wennefer0@user/wennefer0) wennefer0 |
| 2026-01-03 03:08:16 +0100 | <monochrom> | OTOH if the list has 1,000,000 numbers, we are spawning 1,000,000 threads. At that point the OS overhead of spawning so many threads becomes unbearable; and even if you find a way to tolerate it, the huge uncertainty that some threads start counting early, some others start count late, means that your sleep time cannot be as short as 1ms. |
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| 2026-01-03 03:14:11 +0100 | <monochrom> | Once again the fallacy of seeing O/Θ/Ω("n") and thinking "I only see 'n', so linear time, and if I can easily make a 1000x speedup then it's fast", forgetting that really n = 2^k where k is the number of input bits, so you're looking at exponential time, at which point a 1000x speedup fails to catch up. |
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