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2025-12-23 00:46:44 +0100 <hololeap> does anyone know of a library that can help visualize the differences here? http://dpaste.com/2WQKM83JU
2025-12-23 00:47:51 +0100 <hololeap> even greater would be if it plugged into tasty somehow
2025-12-23 00:48:09 +0100 <hololeap> or HUnit
2025-12-23 00:48:18 +0100 <sm> delta is a good command line diff viewer
2025-12-23 00:48:45 +0100 <sm> ideally, if you could arrange to print those on multiple lines, eg with pretty-simple, they'll be much easier to compare
2025-12-23 00:49:31 +0100 <sm> but as it is, it's pretty easy to spot the difference visually if you can scroll horizontally, no ?
2025-12-23 00:50:18 +0100smtries.. eh, not so easy; it's too big
2025-12-23 00:50:27 +0100 <hololeap> sure, but I'm looking for something that can automate this to some degree
2025-12-23 00:50:43 +0100 <sm> I would pretty-print on multiple lines, and diff that
2025-12-23 00:51:02 +0100 <sm> or arrange for more terse output you can compare
2025-12-23 00:52:11 +0100 <sm> short answer, I don't know the tool that can help compare two huge lines - maybe LLM can show a one-liner with awk or some such ?
2025-12-23 00:52:22 +0100 <hololeap> meld is fine for that
2025-12-23 00:52:48 +0100 <hololeap> well, like you said, it's easier to run it through pretty-simple first
2025-12-23 00:53:36 +0100 <hololeap> but... is there something that e.g. uses generics to compare two data structures of the same type, and give some representation of the differences?
2025-12-23 00:54:08 +0100 <hololeap> even if the representation is yet another haskell data structure
2025-12-23 00:54:33 +0100 <sm> I don't know its name, but I have the feeling there is
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2025-12-23 00:59:03 +0100 <hololeap> would be very cool if there was
2025-12-23 00:59:18 +0100 <mauke> https://github.com/mauke/irssi-scripts/blob/master/topic_diff.pl does line diffs
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2025-12-23 01:00:53 +0100 <hololeap> hm
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2025-12-23 01:17:19 +0100 <mauke> or in command line form: https://pt.gayr.at/p/aUnfghuYP8zplbOdeVF-w9_LQKY
2025-12-23 01:17:39 +0100 <mauke> conversion to haskell is left as an exercise for the reader :-)
2025-12-23 01:22:22 +0100 <mauke> output: https://v1.imgpaste.net/images/public/9adb1597-900e-4bf4-884c-e3cf14e04e57-a.png
2025-12-23 01:23:35 +0100 <hololeap> looks like this was actually designed for my use case: https://hackage-content.haskell.org/package/generic-diff-0.1.0.0/docs/Generics-Diff.html
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2025-12-23 03:10:54 +0100 <Leary> hololeap: I've heard good things about 'tree-diff'.
2025-12-23 03:12:05 +0100 <hololeap> yes, I also looked at that one
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2025-12-23 03:13:03 +0100 <hololeap> (searched hackage for "diff")
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2025-12-23 03:15:32 +0100 <hololeap> generic-diff has an open bug (from the author) to add support for tests, so it seems like a good place to contribute
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2025-12-23 10:26:56 +0100L29Ah(~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) ()
2025-12-23 10:30:12 +0100 <lucabtz> in the documentation of fix :: (a -> a) -> a it says that fix f is the lowest fixed point of f. i think lowest here is related to what c_wraith was once telling me about domain theory vs set theory in haskell
2025-12-23 10:30:27 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-23 10:30:34 +0100 <lucabtz> i remember checking stuff quickly about domain theory and it was related to partial orders
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2025-12-23 11:59:45 +0100 <ski> yes, lucabtz
2025-12-23 12:00:25 +0100 <lucabtz> ski: do you have more information about this, somewhere i can read or even just what to search to learn about it
2025-12-23 12:00:29 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-23 12:01:34 +0100 <lucabtz> it's pretty clear bottom in this partial order is lower than anything else (hence the name i guess), but how does it work for other stuff
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2025-12-23 16:20:49 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> I just used a traversable instance for 2-tuples
2025-12-23 16:21:32 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> I'm rewriting my code from lists to NonEmpty (because I updated base and now a bunch of prelude functions throw warnings about being partial, so this started a fire under my ass where I was lazy before)
2025-12-23 16:22:33 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> And it's convenient to transform a [(ByteString, [ByteString])] into [(ByteString, NonEmpty ByteString)] via a simple `mapMaybe (traverse nonEmpty)`
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2025-12-23 16:22:52 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Though it warrants a comment for future readers for sure
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2025-12-23 16:27:31 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Though ugh, currently I do two passes: first find empty lists in one, then the second to leave only non-empty. I doubt that I can partition in single pass with just combinators, without writing a recursion myself. Hm
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2025-12-23 16:35:37 +0100 <Leary> % :t partitionEithers . map \case{ (a, []) -> Left a; (a, x:xs) -> Right (a, x:|xs) }
2025-12-23 16:35:37 +0100 <yahb2> partitionEithers . map \case{ (a, []) -> Left a; (a, x:xs) -> Right (a, x:|xs) } ; :: [(a1, [a2])] -> ([a1], [(a1, NonEmpty a2)])
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2025-12-23 16:56:14 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Hm, pretty good!
2025-12-23 16:56:25 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Not pointfree enough, but oh well
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2025-12-23 17:42:59 +0100 <Leary> % :t let (.:) = (.) . (.) in partitionEithers . map (uncurry (flip . maybe Left . flip $ Right .: (,)) . fmap nonEmpty)
2025-12-23 17:42:59 +0100 <yahb2> let (.:) = (.) . (.) in partitionEithers . map (uncurry (flip . maybe Left . flip $ Right .: (,)) . fmap nonEmpty) ; :: [(a1, [a2])] -> ([a1], [(a1, NonEmpty a2)])
2025-12-23 17:43:10 +0100 <Leary> Morj: Pick your poison.
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2025-12-23 18:02:54 +0100 <hololeap> or, instead of building a [(ByteString, [ByteString])], just build a [(ByteString, Maybe (NonEmpty ByteString))] from the start
2025-12-23 18:03:24 +0100 <hololeap> (I assume this data structure is being built using some kind of input from the real world)
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2025-12-23 18:07:42 +0100 <Leary> % :t partitionEithers . map ((uncurry . flip . maybe Left . flip . curry) Right . fmap nonEmpty)
2025-12-23 18:07:42 +0100 <yahb2> partitionEithers . map ((uncurry . flip . maybe Left . flip . curry) Right . fmap nonEmpty) ; :: [(a1, [a2])] -> ([a1], [(a1, NonEmpty a2)])
2025-12-23 18:08:14 +0100 <Leary> I might actually be alright with this ... the symmetries are doing it for me.
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2025-12-23 18:19:54 +0100 <hololeap> Foldable1 seems kind of pointless on the surface, but now I'm seeing a few useful functions that don't have any Foldable equivalent
2025-12-23 18:22:06 +0100 <hololeap> being able to use a Semigroup that cannot have a Monoid instance could be very handy on occasion
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2025-12-23 18:24:56 +0100 <monochrom> Yeah, things like maximum may better belong to Foldable1 too.
2025-12-23 18:25:52 +0100 <EvanR> er, is that what Foldable1 is
2025-12-23 18:26:00 +0100 <EvanR> it's not a higher kinded Foldable?
2025-12-23 18:26:33 +0100 <monochrom> Took me a while to realize that too. :)
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2025-12-23 18:27:04 +0100 <monochrom> "Oh as in foldr1, not as in Eq1"
2025-12-23 18:27:45 +0100 <monochrom> The "Semigroup" hint helped. :)
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2025-12-23 19:26:23 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> NonEmpty for example is Foldable1 but not Foldable, so Foldable1 is pretty necessary given the push to use NonEmpty to avoid partial functions.
2025-12-23 19:27:56 +0100 <hololeap> NonEmpty is Foldable though
2025-12-23 19:28:41 +0100 <hololeap> it's just that foldMap for NonEmpty carries a Monoid constraint, when Semigroup would be enough
2025-12-23 19:28:46 +0100LaurentH(~LaurentH@e7-72-0-245-18.dynamic.sthy.maskatel.ca) ()
2025-12-23 19:28:52 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> hmm nwm, it seems to be actually Foldable. But I vaguely remember some use of Foldable1 being related to NonEmpty.
2025-12-23 19:30:40 +0100 <hololeap> with a NonEmpty, you don't have to worry about the case of an empty list, thus you don't need a definition for mempty and can use any Semigroup instead
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2025-12-23 19:31:42 +0100 <hololeap> the fact that toNonEmpty is part of Foldable1 sort of proves that NonEmpty is the canonical Foldable1
2025-12-23 19:33:16 +0100 <hololeap> I do think that Traversable1 is more useful https://hackage.haskell.org/package/semigroupoids-6.0.1/docs/Data-Semigroup-Traversable.html
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2025-12-23 19:33:45 +0100 <hololeap> I missed the discussion where Foldable1 was added to base and why some of the other things from semigroupoids were left out
2025-12-23 19:34:11 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> ye Foldable1 requires at least 1 item to work with because it has no starting accumulator so it's connected to NonEmpty.
2025-12-23 19:38:08 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> Were there any proposals to make NonEmpty a builtin list so you could write [1 | 2, 3] instead of 1 :| [2,3]?
2025-12-23 19:38:08 +0100target_i(~target_i@user/target-i/x-6023099) target_i
2025-12-23 19:38:30 +0100 <hololeap> I _think_ you can already do that with OverloadedLists
2025-12-23 19:38:56 +0100 <hololeap> but it shares the same syntax with list [1, 2, 3]
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2025-12-23 19:39:25 +0100 <hololeap> and you have to be careful not to give it [] or else you get a runtime error
2025-12-23 19:39:34 +0100 <hololeap> but I might be wrong on the details
2025-12-23 19:40:46 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> Yes, I think if syntax is shared then there's more potential for ambiguity
2025-12-23 19:40:46 +0100 <hololeap> also, I have no shame in throwing a `NonEmpty.fromList [1, 2, 3]` into my code
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