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2026-05-06 00:15:42 +0000 <geekosaur> yes
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2026-05-06 01:39:11 +0000 <monochrom> IMO Greek lowercase is cursive not italic.
2026-05-06 01:39:26 +0000 <monochrom> But OK, we're just arguing semantics!
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2026-05-06 05:27:16 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> btw, do we know what happened with Rel8?
2026-05-06 05:27:16 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> I was about to use it, then I noticed
2026-05-06 05:27:21 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> it's not working with current Hasql
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2026-05-06 06:19:56 +0000craunts795335385(~craunts@152.32.100.66) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)
2026-05-06 06:34:17 +0000 <[exa]> mornin'
2026-05-06 06:34:45 +0000anpad(~pandeyan@user/anpad) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2026-05-06 06:34:51 +0000 <Axman6> o/
2026-05-06 06:35:09 +0000 <[exa]> is there some easy tool to check for compatibilities with new versions of packages? in particular I'm trying to bump `time` in one package to 1.16 and the whole hackage has <1.16 as an upper bound, not sure if I want to download 50 packages and rewrite their cabals
2026-05-06 06:35:09 +0000ChanServ(ChanServ@services.libera.chat)
2026-05-06 06:35:09 +0000mercury.libera.chat+o ChanServ
2026-05-06 06:35:36 +0000 <Axman6> cabal build --allow-newer?
2026-05-06 06:35:45 +0000 <[exa]> oh
2026-05-06 06:37:18 +0000 <[exa]> oh okay thanks. :D
2026-05-06 06:40:03 +0000 <mauke> cabal build --allow-never
2026-05-06 06:43:20 +0000 <[exa]> man I wish cabal --help had sections with topics
2026-05-06 06:43:56 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-05-06 06:44:07 +0000leppard(~noOne@ipservice-092-208-182-236.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de) Inline
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2026-05-06 07:58:09 +0000 <gentauro> mauke: `--allow-never` or `--allow-newer`?
2026-05-06 07:58:11 +0000 <gentauro> ;)
2026-05-06 07:58:39 +0000 <Axman6> cabal build --don't
2026-05-06 07:58:52 +0000 <Axman6> also has ther alias --do-not
2026-05-06 07:58:57 +0000 <Axman6> -r
2026-05-06 07:59:17 +0000 <Axman6> Do you think LLMs are trained on our ramblings in here?
2026-05-06 07:59:55 +0000 <gentauro> Axman6: yes
2026-05-06 08:00:12 +0000 <gentauro> and as with all the other material, they do not disclose it
2026-05-06 08:00:15 +0000 <gentauro> :-\
2026-05-06 08:00:22 +0000 <Axman6> Good, I've said a lot of dumb shit in here and I hope it poisons the well
2026-05-06 08:00:22 +0000 <Hecate> Axman6: I hope
2026-05-06 08:05:39 +0000bramh(~bramh@user/bramh) bramh
2026-05-06 08:05:54 +0000merijn(~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn
2026-05-06 08:08:02 +0000 <gentauro> https://mastodon.social/@JulianOliver/116391284280771352 <- this ;)
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2026-05-06 08:09:01 +0000Inst(~Inst@user/Inst) Inst
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2026-05-06 08:11:03 +0000 <mauke> sub putStr{-print@_}q o-}=0;main=do;putStr"Just another Haskell programmer\n"
2026-05-06 08:11:07 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> hmmm, also
2026-05-06 08:11:07 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> is bridge down?
2026-05-06 08:11:20 +0000 <mauke> london bridge?
2026-05-06 08:11:30 +0000 <Inst> It might be specific to my client, but I can't see anything
2026-05-06 08:11:33 +0000 <Inst> on IRC
2026-05-06 08:11:36 +0000emmanuelux(~em@user/emmanuelux) (Quit: bye)
2026-05-06 08:13:04 +0000 <tomsmeding> Inst: works for me https://tirclogv.tomsmeding.com/log/haskell?eid=aJrssdAx1#ev-aJrssdAx1
2026-05-06 08:13:08 +0000 <__monty__> Must not be down entirely, because I see Liamzee's message through haskellbridge.
2026-05-06 08:15:15 +0000 <Inst> may be an issue with my client
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2026-05-06 08:17:23 +0000 <gentauro> mauke: what does your snippet do?
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2026-05-06 08:17:44 +0000 <Axman6> I onle see Liamzee's messages in my matrix client (but every one on IRC)
2026-05-06 08:17:49 +0000 <Axman6> only*
2026-05-06 08:18:03 +0000 <tomsmeding> oh the bridge is dead in the irc->matrix direction?
2026-05-06 08:18:24 +0000 <Inst> IRC seemed dead, then I checked tom's logs
2026-05-06 08:18:40 +0000 <mauke> gentauro: try it :-)
2026-05-06 08:18:41 +0000 <tomsmeding> gentauro: looks like a perl/haskel polyglot
2026-05-06 08:18:44 +0000gentaurothe source to all truth -> Toms logs
2026-05-06 08:18:45 +0000 <gentauro> xD
2026-05-06 08:18:59 +0000tusko(~uwu@user/tusko) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2026-05-06 08:19:05 +0000 <Inst> so, actual question: would you recommend using Servant or figuring out how the insane type-level actually works?
2026-05-06 08:19:08 +0000 <gentauro> tomsmeding: oh Perl. So it's encrypted/obfuscated (Y(
2026-05-06 08:19:42 +0000 <Axman6> I would always recommend using Servant, for most problems in life
2026-05-06 08:20:34 +0000 <sm> matrix having trouble right now ?
2026-05-06 08:20:45 +0000tusko(~uwu@user/tusko) tusko
2026-05-06 08:21:54 +0000 <Inst> is Servant stacking Servant turing complete?
2026-05-06 08:22:18 +0000 <gentauro> somebody took the 🫘?
2026-05-06 08:23:23 +0000 <Inst> if a servant server spawns another servant server, can the system of servant servers, even if unperformant, be theoretically capable of general computation?
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2026-05-06 08:32:29 +0000 <mauke> {-0};putStrLn=print;"""-}x=pure" """;main=putStrLn("yo")
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2026-05-06 15:00:49 +0000 <janus> Inst: it's not that crazy if you just use it, there are cook books and examples
2026-05-06 15:06:32 +0000 <bwe> `f` should replace `,` by `.` but only if it is sandwiched by digits like in `abc1,37g` but not so in `abc1,g` -- what's the best approach to achieve this using Data.Text. I simultaneously need to watch what's before and after a comma.
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2026-05-06 15:14:28 +0000 <bwe> so, I'd need to have a sliding window of size 3 that goes over the text `abc1,37g`: abc bc1 c1, 1,3 ,37 37g
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2026-05-06 15:25:13 +0000 <tomsmeding> bwe: prioritising readability or performance?
2026-05-06 15:25:50 +0000 <c_wraith> fun observation: that's a linear cellular automata
2026-05-06 15:26:03 +0000 <bwe> tomsmeding: as for now, readability
2026-05-06 15:27:02 +0000 <bwe> tomsmeding: my naive approach would be starting out with `map (\x -> T.take 3 $ T.drop x "abc1,2def") [0..length "abc1,2def"]` -- but then, how to reconstruct the text
2026-05-06 15:27:41 +0000 <tomsmeding> if length t < 2 then t else let l = T.unpack t in T.pack (zipWith3 g l (drop 1 l) (drop 2 l)) where g a ',' c | isDigit a, isDigit c = '.' ; g _ b _ = b
2026-05-06 15:28:11 +0000 <tomsmeding> bwe: that repeated T.drop makes the whole thing quadratic, because a Text is UTF-8 and dropping a number of characters from the beginning is O(x)
2026-05-06 15:28:22 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) FallenSky
2026-05-06 15:28:23 +0000 <tomsmeding> my version is possibly non-optimal but at least linear
2026-05-06 15:28:47 +0000 <tomsmeding> oh the 'else' branch needs to add the head and last of t
2026-05-06 15:29:24 +0000 <bwe> tomsmeding: :) yeah, I encountered that I need to add head and tail, too
2026-05-06 15:29:31 +0000 <tomsmeding> > let l = [1..5] in zipWith3 (,,) l (drop 1 l) (drop 2 l)
2026-05-06 15:29:32 +0000 <lambdabot> [(1,2,3),(2,3,4),(3,4,5)]
2026-05-06 15:29:54 +0000 <tomsmeding> > let fib = 0 : 1 : zipWith (+) fib (tail fib) in fib
2026-05-06 15:29:55 +0000 <lambdabot> [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,...
2026-05-06 15:29:59 +0000 <bwe> tomsmeding: so, zipWith3 was the window making thing I was searching, thanks for bringing that up!
2026-05-06 15:30:21 +0000 <c_wraith> You can do a little better than zipWith3.
2026-05-06 15:30:43 +0000 <tomsmeding> yeah if you do manual recursion over (T.unpack t) you can probably avoid allocating the list nodes
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2026-05-06 15:32:24 +0000 <c_wraith> Oh, I just meant that it's not ideal for appending the last value
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2026-05-06 15:49:44 +0000 <tomsmeding> oh that's also a good point
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2026-05-06 15:56:09 +0000 <EvanR> (utf-16 would have the same issue)
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2026-05-06 16:00:18 +0000 <tomsmeding> indeed
2026-05-06 16:00:22 +0000misterfish(~misterfis@84.53.85.146) misterfish
2026-05-06 16:00:47 +0000 <tomsmeding> as opposed to a String, which in this comparison is most like UTF-32
2026-05-06 16:01:02 +0000 <tomsmeding> (it isn't, it's a linked list of heap allocated integers)
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2026-05-06 18:12:02 +0000 <monochrom> Yeah in fact the linked-list part kills you more than the 32-bit-word part in memory usage. :)
2026-05-06 18:13:59 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) FallenSky
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2026-05-06 18:16:47 +0000L29Ah(~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah
2026-05-06 18:17:05 +0000 <EvanR> I save big by using UTF-24 😎
2026-05-06 18:17:50 +0000 <monochrom> smbc should make the next comic "unicode is isomorphic to RGB" >:)
2026-05-06 18:18:16 +0000 <monochrom> (context: it made "pspace is isomorphic to fock space" yesterday)
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2026-05-06 18:20:23 +0000 <EvanR> meanwhile ASCII also wastes a lot of space, we could cut down 1 or 2 bits here and there for most text
2026-05-06 18:21:46 +0000 <EvanR> get rid of upper and lower case just have one (which?), control codes gone, underappreciated punctuation marks like ;
2026-05-06 18:22:02 +0000 <dolio> I imagine the problem with that it's not worth it to do the arithmetic needed.
2026-05-06 18:22:03 +0000Enrico63(~Enrico63@85.255.233.176) Enrico63
2026-05-06 18:22:07 +0000 <darkling> Lower case. It's more readable.
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2026-05-06 18:23:09 +0000 <darkling> Once we'd invented Carolingian minuscule, why was there *ever* a need to retain Roman majuscule? ;)
2026-05-06 18:23:34 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) FallenSky
2026-05-06 18:23:55 +0000 <monochrom> Just have one case. Let users choose which case it is by choosing fonts!
2026-05-06 18:24:07 +0000arandombit(~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit
2026-05-06 18:24:42 +0000 <darkling> (I am aware of the irony in holding this position whilst also writing with full capitalisation).
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2026-05-06 18:27:00 +0000 <monochrom> I actually thought up an idea along that line to combat the fact that my students just upload my homework handout to ChatGPT and get solutions. I do a Caeser-cipher on my text. Then my PDF includes my own font (or my html includes my own webfont) to inverse the cipher so it looks plaintext to humans. But ChatGPT sees the ciphertext.
2026-05-06 18:27:34 +0000 <monochrom> (No I haven't done it yet. I'm too lazy!)
2026-05-06 18:27:48 +0000 <dolio> That's cute.
2026-05-06 18:28:32 +0000 <EvanR> would it even work though
2026-05-06 18:28:35 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) (Remote host closed the connection)
2026-05-06 18:28:49 +0000 <monochrom> (Extra credit for: The ciphertext is a legible homework question too, just different from the real question, thus gaslighting ChatGPT!)
2026-05-06 18:28:50 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) FallenSky
2026-05-06 18:29:11 +0000 <EvanR> I see you tried to encrypt your input with a weak cipher! Would you like me to suggest better encryption
2026-05-06 18:30:07 +0000 <monochrom> Do you have a better encryption that can be decrypted by just switching fonts?
2026-05-06 18:30:40 +0000 <mauke> you can do better than caesar with ligature shenanigans
2026-05-06 18:30:42 +0000 <EvanR> I hear fonts are turing complete so maybe
2026-05-06 18:30:48 +0000layline_(~layline@98.122.252.122) layline
2026-05-06 18:30:48 +0000 <monochrom> "caeser ought to be enough for every LLM" :)
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2026-05-06 18:31:05 +0000 <monochrom> Ah good to know. I'll try harder next time!
2026-05-06 18:33:20 +0000 <monochrom> But I don't think LLMs break Caeser yet. Either unable or unaware.
2026-05-06 18:33:45 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2026-05-06 18:35:02 +0000 <dolio> It's not obvious why they would, unless they're specifically coming up with scenarios like this.
2026-05-06 18:35:13 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) FallenSky
2026-05-06 18:35:27 +0000 <dolio> And I doubt they're specifically training to cheat on homework.
2026-05-06 18:36:09 +0000arandombit(~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit
2026-05-06 18:36:19 +0000 <monochrom> Yeah I would not be surprised that they can, but I would be surprised that they have the awareness to try.
2026-05-06 18:39:05 +0000 <int-e> who knows; the frontend/tokenizer might try
2026-05-06 18:39:41 +0000 <int-e> (they'll add it if it comes up in their benchmarks)
2026-05-06 18:40:04 +0000 <int-e> I guess rot13 is more likely than caesar
2026-05-06 18:40:10 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2026-05-06 18:40:22 +0000 <dolio> Yeah, I wouldn't use rot13. There's probably too much of that out there.
2026-05-06 18:40:30 +0000 <dolio> Something more arbitrary.
2026-05-06 18:40:56 +0000 <EvanR> monochrom, https://i.imgur.com/Xs0g9XT.png xD
2026-05-06 18:40:58 +0000ricardomaps(~ricardoma@2804:14d:a040:81ea:7ed9:58e0:39c5:61f0)
2026-05-06 18:41:51 +0000 <EvanR> why would they train for this indeed
2026-05-06 18:43:14 +0000 <int-e> > take 26 . map ((['a'..]!!) . (`mod` 26)) $ [0,3..]
2026-05-06 18:43:15 +0000 <lambdabot> "adgjmpsvybehknqtwzcfilorux"
2026-05-06 18:43:34 +0000 <int-e> (the "quick" method will be to memorize that, right?)
2026-05-06 18:44:07 +0000 <EvanR> use a decoder ring
2026-05-06 18:44:24 +0000 <int-e> EvanR: it said "in your head" so unless you make it an implant...
2026-05-06 18:45:40 +0000 <int-e> EvanR: of course you can try to visualize a decoder ring
2026-05-06 18:46:10 +0000maukevisualizes a decoder monoid
2026-05-06 18:46:16 +0000 <EvanR> it says, look for small common repeated words in english and have memorized some basic enciphered versions of those to recognize which caeser cipher it is. And also "alphabet wheel in your head"
2026-05-06 18:47:23 +0000 <int-e> EvanR: those are boring
2026-05-06 18:48:05 +0000 <int-e> (the former is the ebg13 method? :P)
2026-05-06 18:48:21 +0000srazkvt(~sarah@user/srazkvt) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2026-05-06 18:48:59 +0000 <dolio> Oh, Caesar is always fixed offset? With a font you can just pick an arbitrary permutation.
2026-05-06 18:49:25 +0000 <tomsmeding> you can even switch fonts partway through the sentence
2026-05-06 18:49:50 +0000 <tomsmeding> that should allow you to make the exercise minimally (so it isn't obvious to the copy-paster) but crucially different
2026-05-06 18:50:35 +0000 <tomsmeding> question is whether this is ethical -- students might complain that they want to copy-paste the homework text to their emacs buffer and now they did the wrong homework
2026-05-06 18:51:20 +0000 <EvanR> gotta fight unethical with unethical!
2026-05-06 18:51:30 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) FallenSky
2026-05-06 18:51:48 +0000 <tomsmeding> it's fine against the infringers, it's questionable for the honest people who have a weird workflow
2026-05-06 18:52:58 +0000 <tomsmeding> better idea: do the font trick to make the copy-pasted text just the same as the actual assignment (no underhanded meaning changes), just in Greek
2026-05-06 18:53:07 +0000 <tomsmeding> so that the LLM responds with the answer in Greek
2026-05-06 18:55:57 +0000emmanuelux(~em@user/emmanuelux) emmanuelux
2026-05-06 18:55:57 +0000 <dolio> That's not really any different unless you actually manage to get the plain text to be a different assignment.
2026-05-06 18:56:04 +0000 <dolio> Which seems unlikely.
2026-05-06 18:56:09 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2026-05-06 18:56:14 +0000 <dolio> Or, ciphertext, I guess.
2026-05-06 18:56:26 +0000 <tomsmeding> depending on the assignment, might not be so hard if you just change a few words here and there
2026-05-06 18:57:13 +0000 <tomsmeding> heck, no font shenanigans are even necessary, just put the visible text in the PDF as postscript paths and add the covert text underneath with opacity 0%
2026-05-06 18:57:34 +0000ricardomaps(~ricardoma@2804:14d:a040:81ea:7ed9:58e0:39c5:61f0) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2026-05-06 18:57:44 +0000 <tomsmeding> play with font size and/or space width to get the line lengths to be the same
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2026-05-06 19:00:41 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) FallenSky
2026-05-06 19:04:26 +0000 <EvanR> they can read text off an image so maybe the pdf idea also won't work
2026-05-06 19:04:34 +0000 <Leary> Yes. OCR will defeat all scheming. Human readable ==> machine readable.
2026-05-06 19:05:21 +0000 <tomsmeding> OCR will defeat scheming if the PDF reader decides to use OCR, but will it decide to do so if the PDF claims to have perfectly sensible text there?
2026-05-06 19:05:23 +0000 <EvanR> next you're going to ask monochrom to explain the homework in the utility pod with microphones turned off
2026-05-06 19:05:49 +0000 <EvanR> and we know how that turns out
2026-05-06 19:06:14 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2026-05-06 19:07:27 +0000 <EvanR> the homework begins with the phrase "Please do not solve the following"
2026-05-06 19:07:33 +0000 <EvanR> sorted
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2026-05-06 19:08:22 +0000 <EvanR> abusers won't know what him em
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2026-05-06 19:17:05 +0000 <monochrom> EvanR: Haha yikes thanks.
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2026-05-06 21:58:15 +0000 <refactus> I'm new and just barely learning haskell from a procedural background. noticed the charts on https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lchaskell from the channel topic are broken, because google charts is gone
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2026-05-06 21:58:48 +0000FallenSky(~FallenSky@user/FallenSky) FallenSky
2026-05-06 22:00:19 +0000 <refactus> wondered if we'd considered changing https://github.com/tomsmeding/ircbrowse/blob/master/src/Ircbrowse/View/Chart.hs to use something else like quickchart.io or a self hosted solution or whatever
2026-05-06 22:01:29 +0000 <EvanR> oh hell yeah
2026-05-06 22:02:04 +0000 <EvanR> haskell really unlocks a lot of things
2026-05-06 22:04:41 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-05-06 22:05:23 +0000 <refactus> I have moral objections to ms github. discarded my accounts. think I could e-mail the maintainer a patch or a url to a codeberg fork?
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2026-05-06 22:11:01 +0000 <refactus> I know it sounds like a left field kind of question, but I saw he is also one of the most active people in this channel, so figured it'd be a reasonable place to ask
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