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2025-11-03 00:08:06 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine)
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2025-11-03 00:30:48 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life
2025-11-03 00:31:53 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-03 00:36:36 +0000 <monochrom> I am not sure that chapters for q or z are really that long. :)
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2025-11-03 02:09:28 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-03 02:57:06 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-03 03:13:11 +0000karenw(~karenw@user/karenw) (Quit: Deep into that darkness peering...)
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2025-11-03 03:30:56 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-03 03:46:44 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-03 04:02:14 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-03 13:02:41 +0000 <[exa]> Is there some canonical data type in the libraries that would represent a "directory structure"? Like a Tree but with explicit filename key, and data only in leaves ("files")
2025-11-03 13:13:46 +0000 <Leary> [exa]: Sounds like a trie, specifically a "trie map" rather than a "trie set".
2025-11-03 13:15:29 +0000 <[exa]> yeah sounds like it
2025-11-03 13:16:04 +0000 <[exa]> funnily there's no package with general tries, somehow people only do stringy ones
2025-11-03 13:16:32 +0000 <[exa]> (time to act?!)
2025-11-03 13:19:17 +0000 <Leary> 'generic-trie' looks alright.
2025-11-03 13:23:08 +0000[exa]tries to refocus eyes
2025-11-03 13:23:12 +0000 <[exa]> somehow I missed that
2025-11-03 13:23:14 +0000 <[exa]> thanks a lot!
2025-11-03 13:23:48 +0000 <dminuoso> A directory structure is, under most filesystems, not just a dree but a DAG.
2025-11-03 13:23:50 +0000user363627(~user@user/user363627) user363627
2025-11-03 13:24:06 +0000 <dminuoso> Sorry, not even acylic.
2025-11-03 13:24:09 +0000 <dminuoso> A graph.
2025-11-03 13:24:30 +0000 <tomsmeding> a dree?
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2025-11-03 13:24:42 +0000 <dminuoso> nice
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2025-11-03 13:27:59 +0000 <[exa]> dminuoso: I meant a really naive trivial one :D
2025-11-03 13:28:38 +0000 <[exa]> Leary: is it just me or that generic-trie is too generic? there isn't anything like "listing a directory" or so
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2025-11-03 13:37:20 +0000 <tomsmeding> isn't the idea of a trie that a node encodes its entire prefix, and the particular substring on an edge has no useful semantics by itself?
2025-11-03 13:37:39 +0000 <tomsmeding> so I wouldn't expect a trie library to expose a function for getting the outgoing edges of a node, because that ought not to be relevant for a trie
2025-11-03 13:38:16 +0000 <tomsmeding> [exa]: why not just data FileTree = Directory (Map FileName FileTree) | File FileName Stuffs
2025-11-03 13:38:57 +0000 <dminuoso> tomsmeding: No the opposite.
2025-11-03 13:39:10 +0000 <dminuoso> You essentially only encode portions in edges.
2025-11-03 13:39:15 +0000 <tomsmeding> I know
2025-11-03 13:39:19 +0000 <tomsmeding> I know how a trie works
2025-11-03 13:39:33 +0000 <Leary> [exa]: Actually, upon further inspection, it looks like it's focused more on being an optimised `Map` than on otherwise exploiting its trie-ness. 'trie-simple' looks more suitable, with e.g.: `match :: Ord c => [c] -> TMap c a -> (Maybe a, TMap c a)`
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2025-11-03 13:40:03 +0000 <tomsmeding> dminuoso: but the portions on the edges are not meaningful values by themselves, they just happen to be substrings that are shared by all values in a particular subset of your set
2025-11-03 13:40:31 +0000 <dminuoso> I've always rolled my own trie implementations to cope with the specific needs.
2025-11-03 13:40:33 +0000 <Leary> They're meaningful if you control the atoms.
2025-11-03 13:41:00 +0000 <dminuoso> For our DNS stuff I have a SparseTrie that can have sort if "missing" intermediate nodes.
2025-11-03 13:41:07 +0000 <dminuoso> s/sort if/sort of"
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2025-11-03 13:46:10 +0000 <[exa]> tomsmeding: yeah I wanted to avoid reimplementation
2025-11-03 13:46:15 +0000 <[exa]> Leary: oh nice
2025-11-03 13:46:42 +0000 <[exa]> Leary: how do you find the packages? hoogle is hiding this from me completely
2025-11-03 13:46:45 +0000 <[exa]> ._.
2025-11-03 13:46:47 +0000prdak(~Thunderbi@user/prdak) prdak
2025-11-03 13:46:53 +0000 <tomsmeding> search for "trie" on hackage?
2025-11-03 13:47:18 +0000 <tomsmeding> hoogle searches only in the stackage set in any case
2025-11-03 13:47:19 +0000prdak1(~Thunderbi@user/prdak) prdak
2025-11-03 13:47:27 +0000 <dminuoso> I looked for trie packages on hackage, there is not much generic stuff up there.
2025-11-03 13:48:33 +0000 <dminuoso> Im not sure a generic version is even that useful. You tend to pick a trie for performance reasons, and then you want it tailored to your algorithm.
2025-11-03 13:49:16 +0000 <dminuoso> And it must facilitate particular access patterns. Maybe you care about inserting a lot
2025-11-03 13:49:24 +0000 <Leary> [exa]: Just hackage search, like they said.
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2025-11-03 13:52:57 +0000[exa]discovers hackage search
2025-11-03 13:53:11 +0000 <[exa]> ok cool. :D
2025-11-03 13:53:20 +0000tomsmeding. o O ( https://xkcd.com/1053/ )
2025-11-03 13:54:12 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Morj> I have search keywords in firefox: h for hoogle and ha for hackage, very useful
2025-11-03 13:54:58 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Morj> For rust instead I type docs.rs/packagename and it also works, except some packages use underscores instead of tirets in the name
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2025-11-03 13:55:24 +0000 <tomsmeding> hyphens?
2025-11-03 13:55:30 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Yes, those
2025-11-03 13:56:04 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Should we create a new country to get an "hs" top-level domain? Or maybe another would work better?
2025-11-03 13:56:29 +0000 <sshine> .fun?
2025-11-03 13:56:37 +0000 <sshine> it already exists :)
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2025-11-03 13:57:15 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Morj> :3
2025-11-03 13:57:17 +0000 <dminuoso> Morj: gTLDs are a thing! No need for a full country anymore, you just need about 2 imperial bags of cash.
2025-11-03 13:57:40 +0000 <dminuoso> Oh and you need to pay an annual fee of 3 lumps of gold.
2025-11-03 13:57:40 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Morj> But a gtld can't be two letters, right?
2025-11-03 13:58:28 +0000 <dminuoso> Morj: Well, one of the imperial bags of cash is just bribing someone at ICANN.
2025-11-03 13:58:56 +0000 <dminuoso> But yeah.
2025-11-03 13:59:30 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Morj> I propose a reunification of serbo-croatia, the tld would be an abbreviation of hrvatsko-serbsko
2025-11-03 13:59:33 +0000 <dminuoso> .hask is available.
2025-11-03 13:59:49 +0000 <dminuoso> First domain shall be category.hask.
2025-11-03 14:00:37 +0000 <sshine> Mroj: it seems that ICANN changed their policy and generally allow two-letter gTLDs that are not ccTLDs.
2025-11-03 14:00:47 +0000 <sshine> Morj: https://www.icann.org/en/contracted-parties/registry-operators/services/reserved-names/two-charact…
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2025-11-03 14:12:10 +0000 <dminuoso> I just wanted to debug a performance regression, so I tried `--enable-profiling` and cabal is failing to find modules for an internal dependencies: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/23kpMrLR
2025-11-03 14:14:13 +0000 <dminuoso> What does "installed the profiling libraries" even mean, here?
2025-11-03 14:14:44 +0000 <dminuoso> Is GHC looking for .p_hi files or soemthing along the lines?
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2025-11-03 14:17:36 +0000 <tomsmeding> dminuoso: have you tried rm -r ~/.cabal/store/ghc-9.6.6*? :p
2025-11-03 14:18:02 +0000 <dminuoso> why would I have to nuke stuff from cabal store?
2025-11-03 14:18:15 +0000 <tomsmeding> because this looks like a borked install of parser-combinators and attoparsec in the store
2025-11-03 14:18:38 +0000 <tomsmeding> if nuking the store doesn't help, that rules this out
2025-11-03 14:18:41 +0000 <dminuoso> Would this be the time where I admit that I may be using haskell.nix?
2025-11-03 14:18:51 +0000 <tomsmeding> probably, and where I sign off because I have no clue
2025-11-03 14:19:19 +0000 <dminuoso> This is why my question was rather about what cabal is barking about rather.
2025-11-03 14:19:23 +0000 <dminuoso> Since it is just plain cabal-install
2025-11-03 14:19:49 +0000 <tomsmeding> normally cabal would realise that a particular dependency has not been built for profiling yet, and start doing so
2025-11-03 14:19:54 +0000 <Leary> My guess: It means that the ghc cabal is using has non-profiling versions of the libraries registered in its global package database, which get in the way of it building its own.
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2025-11-03 14:24:36 +0000 <dminuoso> So is profiling similar to cabal flags in that respect?
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2025-11-03 14:55:41 +0000 <davean> dminuoso: no, profiling is a build option for GHC, cabal usually won't rebuild something for profiling, it builts it the first time for it.
2025-11-03 14:56:26 +0000 <tomsmeding> if I use `cabal build --enable-profiling` on a project where I have not done so before, cabal definitely starts rebuidling the world with profiling.
2025-11-03 14:56:48 +0000 <davean> yes because its a different build config
2025-11-03 14:57:17 +0000 <tomsmeding> makes sense; I was just arguing against "cabal usually won't rebuild something for profiling"
2025-11-03 14:57:52 +0000 <davean> right, it builds a build way one time usually. I'm addressing why I think haskell.nix is breaking it
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2025-11-03 14:58:36 +0000 <davean> I think dminuoso can fix this either by setting profiling in cabal.project or in the flake with configureArgs
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2025-11-03 15:02:27 +0000 <davean> dminuoso: I would specificly recomend setting profiling: true in your cabal.project before entering the flake
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2025-11-03 15:33:19 +0000 <dminuoso> davean: Ah turns out that does not work. Seems to be an extension of https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/6343
2025-11-03 15:33:56 +0000 <dminuoso> https://github.com/input-output-hk/haskell.nix/issues/887#issuecomment-1489632156 has some details about this.
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2025-11-03 15:35:16 +0000 <dminuoso> But at least I can communicate this via NixOS modules to haskell.nix
2025-11-03 15:35:27 +0000 <dminuoso> Or I guess "Nix modules" rather? Not sure.
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2025-11-03 15:42:07 +0000 <davean> dminuoso: no, I don't mean using ghc-options
2025-11-03 15:42:29 +0000 <davean> Though the haskell.nix issue matches sadly.
2025-11-03 15:43:04 +0000 <davean> haskell.nix has so many rough edges :(
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2025-11-03 18:34:46 +0000 <dutchie> the Monad instance for (->) e is so useful. today's helpful thing: join (,)
2025-11-03 18:35:08 +0000 <dutchie> join on any binary function is great
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2025-11-03 18:53:55 +0000 <haskellbridge> <slack1256> dutchie: give an example
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2025-11-03 18:57:07 +0000 <lambdabot> (Expr, Expr)
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2025-11-03 18:57:14 +0000 <Rembane> Interesting
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2025-11-03 20:14:16 +0000 <monochrom> Unifying x->(y->(x,y)) with m (m a) yields m = (x ->) = (y ->), a = (x,y). It's sometimes a cool trick.
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2025-11-03 20:15:13 +0000 <monochrom> And with that. join f = \a -> f a a in general, = \a -> (a,a) in particular.
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