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2024-06-06 00:53:51 +0200 | <Guest15> | foo :: [(Int, [Int])] -> M.Map Int [Int] |
2024-06-06 00:53:51 +0200 | <Guest15> | foo xs = foldr go M.empty xs |
2024-06-06 00:53:52 +0200 | <Guest15> | where go (x, ys) map = foldr (M.adjust (x :)) map ys |
2024-06-06 00:53:52 +0200 | <Guest15> | I have a function like this, which I’m using to construct a dependency graph. The fold within a fold makes me suspect that there is a cleverer way of doing this/a different abstraction I should be using here - if anyone has thoughts, let me know |
2024-06-06 00:55:02 +0200 | <EvanR> | to go from [(k,v)] to Map k v you use M.fromList ? |
2024-06-06 00:55:33 +0200 | <EvanR> | ok it's doing something else |
2024-06-06 00:56:13 +0200 | <EvanR> | map used as a local variable is punking my brain |
2024-06-06 00:57:14 +0200 | <Guest15> | Yes - also, the initial map is actually a set of ints and empty lists, not M.empty - that was a mistake on my part |
2024-06-06 00:57:38 +0200 | <c_wraith> | How do you feel about changing [Int] to (Set Int)? |
2024-06-06 00:58:49 +0200 | m5zs7k | (aquares@web10.mydevil.net) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
2024-06-06 00:59:17 +0200 | <Guest15> | I need to perform a topological sort over the graph eventually, but I can still fold over a set so it should be no issue |
2024-06-06 00:59:50 +0200 | <c_wraith> | Well, that function has no guarantee of preserving uniqueness of entries in the lists... |
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2024-06-06 01:06:09 +0200 | <Guest15> | If I passed the function something like M.fromList [(1, [2,3 ]), (5, [2, 3])] I would want M.fromList [(2, [1, 5]), (3, [1, 5])] |
2024-06-06 01:06:19 +0200 | <Guest15> | As in, I actually want the all of the mappings between a particular element that appears in various inner lists and a first element of one of the tuples to be concatenated into one list |
2024-06-06 01:06:25 +0200 | <Guest15> | Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying |
2024-06-06 01:06:53 +0200 | <Guest15> | *some first element |
2024-06-06 01:09:17 +0200 | yin | (~yin@user/zero) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
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2024-06-06 01:10:59 +0200 | <troojg> | 6D / |
2024-06-06 01:11:27 +0200 | <c_wraith> | I'm not even sure what operation that is. |
2024-06-06 01:11:32 +0200 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) |
2024-06-06 01:11:46 +0200 | <c_wraith> | In graph terms, what are you doing? reversing the edge lists? |
2024-06-06 01:18:35 +0200 | troojg | (~troojg@99.36.5.199) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
2024-06-06 01:20:08 +0200 | <Guest15> | I used ints for readability but in practice, there’s an expression with an identifier and a list of identifiers of other expressions that it depends on i.e. (v, deps) :: (VarName, [VarName]) - and I have a list of these tuples. |
2024-06-06 01:20:09 +0200 | <Guest15> | So what I want to do is create a dependency graph with edges of the form (node1, node2) such that for some (v, deps), node1 belongs to deps and v == node2 i.e. M.fromList [(1, [2,3 ]), (5, [2, 3])] becomes M.fromList [(2, [1, 5]), (3, [1, 5])] |
2024-06-06 01:20:09 +0200 | <Guest15> | Then I want to perform a topological sort on that dependency graph, so I can evaluate the expressions in an order that ensures every expression has fully normalized versions of the expressions it depends on when it gets evaluated |
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2024-06-06 06:50:10 +0200 | <Inst> | yin: i was just wondering because i wanted to do `or` in lieu of <|> or when I needed a custom implementation |
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2024-06-06 07:48:15 +0200 | philopsos1 | (~caecilius@user/philopsos) |
2024-06-06 07:49:10 +0200 | <haetsal> | I am planning to learn Haskell and Clojure. Which language should I learn first? |
2024-06-06 07:50:19 +0200 | bilegeek | (~bilegeek@2600:1008:b01f:a4f3:2e65:d01c:1be0:49de) |
2024-06-06 07:51:26 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Jade> You're asking in a very biased space, I think |
2024-06-06 07:52:27 +0200 | <haetsal> | T.T Where should I ask the question? At Rust channel? |
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2024-06-06 07:59:36 +0200 | <probie> | haetsal: Either learn them concurrently, or flip a coin to decide. They're both functional languages that attempt to eschew side effects (although Clojure has a few more difficulties here because you'll often use java objects), but apart from that they're quite different |
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2024-06-06 09:41:55 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> haetsal: I like the "functions first" approach, but Clojure is a disaster imo |
2024-06-06 09:45:59 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> Not a friend of ad-hoc polymorphism in general. But clojure takes it to a new level |
2024-06-06 09:47:25 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> Back when I did clojurescript, stuff would just crash at runtime or produce garbage due to the ridiculous amount of ad-hoc polymorphism |
2024-06-06 09:47:48 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> Impossible to change code once you wrote it |
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2024-06-06 11:28:47 +0200 | sprout_ | sprout |
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2024-06-06 11:55:32 +0200 | <leah2> | i know both, learning haskell first has more didactic purpose :) |
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2024-06-06 12:15:07 +0200 | <ncf> | learn to think with types as soon as possible |
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2024-06-06 12:15:55 +0200 | <ncf> | (so, haskell) |
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2024-06-06 15:36:56 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <zwro> idris first! |
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2024-06-06 22:25:26 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <oak> My personal recommendation is to skip Clojure altogether, and if you want to learn proper LISP, maybe go to Common Lisp or something |
2024-06-06 22:25:28 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <oak> Couple of years ago I worked with Clojure professionally for some time, and I never want to touch Clojure again :D We were just doing this small HTTP microservice based project, but still the starting times even for the very simplest web service were around 45-90 seconds each |
2024-06-06 22:25:31 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <oak> Then you could try to hack around it by using different hot reload solutions, but it felt like too much hackery |
2024-06-06 22:25:33 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <oak> Then later I was doing another HTTP microservice project, basically it connected to one API, pulled JSON from there, and then pushed XML back to the requester. That I did with Haskell and Servant and RIO, it was very nice, even very complex refactorings that took many hours, instantly worked when I got the code to the state it compiles |
2024-06-06 22:25:37 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <oak> Some people complaint that Haskell is slow to compile, but still the incremental builds and starting HTTP server again every time was around 3-5 secs every time. Not 45-90 seconds :D |
2024-06-06 22:25:40 +0200 | phma | (phma@2001:5b0:2172:c168:223e:807a:618e:7153) |
2024-06-06 22:25:40 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <oak> Maybe Clojure could be nicer nowadays when it has other options than to use JVM as a backend |
2024-06-06 22:25:40 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <oak> I think the reason why Clojure has gained so much popularity is political. It is easy to sell to companies as "another JVM language" |
2024-06-06 22:25:41 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <zwro> i chose scheme when i wanted to learn a lisp but always had curiosity for typed racket |
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