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2023-01-01 04:02:02 +0000tvandinther(~tvandinth@114.23.205.77)
2023-01-01 04:04:18 +0000 <tvandinther> Hi, quick question. With `CmdSpec` when I create a command with `ShellCommand $ unwords ["echo", "$PATH"]` it executes as expected by substituting the variable in the shell. But if I use `RawCommand $ "echo" ["$PATH"]` then it doesn't substitute producing the output `$PATH`. Any ideas why the behaviour is different?
2023-01-01 04:05:01 +0000 <tvandinther> correction: `RawCommand "echo" ["$PATH"]`
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2023-01-01 04:47:08 +0000 <mauke> because variable substitution is a feature of the shell
2023-01-01 04:47:36 +0000 <mauke> if the shell is not involved, no variables are substituted
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2023-01-01 09:27:56 +0000 <benali> hey, which one should I use stack or cabal?
2023-01-01 09:28:37 +0000 <Jadesheit[m]> try both, see what you like better
2023-01-01 09:28:52 +0000 <sclv> i recommend cabal
2023-01-01 09:31:05 +0000 <benali> I had bad experience with stack in the past :(
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2023-01-01 09:43:52 +0000 <Jadesheit[m]> me too which is why I use cabal nowadays
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2023-01-01 09:47:32 +0000 <maerwald> benali: cabal
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2023-01-01 10:50:28 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> personally i use cabal with hpack
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2023-01-01 11:52:25 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> i am trying to define my own library for parameterised Monads/Applicatives and i have two functions that assume Applicative (f q r) and just lift a value via the f q r instance's pure and then discard it to manipulate the q r one changes q and the other r, i then created 2 more general version that take a lifter and a Paramterized applicative value and manipulate q and r
2023-01-01 11:53:55 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> the second couple needs rankNtypes as i need to pass a dummy value to (liftPA2 const) but i could use undefined and use normal rank 1 types how can i be sure that i won't create a runtime error
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2023-01-01 12:55:31 +0000 <lyxia> eldritchcookie[4: it's hard to understand the problem but do you know about Proxy
2023-01-01 12:57:39 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> yes but i forgot to consider that option thank you
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2023-01-01 14:24:07 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> wait proxy can have any type right?
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2023-01-01 14:24:58 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> (*>) (<*) both change the parameterized applicative type but require a value that they discard
2023-01-01 14:25:05 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> i can just use proxy
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2023-01-01 14:28:39 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> s/*>/\*\>/, s/<*/\<\*/
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2023-01-01 14:30:02 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> nvm i can't
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2023-01-01 14:42:37 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> parameterized applicatives are like applicatives but can have changing type for instance i have a definition of liftPA2::(a -> b -> c) -> f p q a -> f q r b -> f p r c
2023-01-01 14:42:37 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> how likely is doing (undefined *> f p q a) to throw an exception ?
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2023-01-01 14:46:50 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> the default implementation is discarded *> kept = liftPA2 (\_ y -> y) discarded kept
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2023-01-01 17:26:50 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> just so i don't waste my time is there any library which has a useful function that accepts 2 different callbacks in the same function? i mean something of the form (a -> m b) -> (c -> m d) -> m e
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2023-01-01 17:34:43 +0000 <ncf> what should it do with the callbacks?
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2023-01-01 17:36:21 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> anything, as long as it calls them, i am turning functions of type f ->(a ->b -> m c) -> m d into f -> ContT m d c (a,b)
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2023-01-01 17:47:48 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> basically i have a parameterized monad version of contT and want to use it to invert control when the types are different
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2023-01-01 18:20:52 +0000 <Profpatsch> In the new random 1.2, what’s the easiest way to generate a list of characters between a–zA–Z0–9
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2023-01-01 18:28:53 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> is there a recommended heterogeneous list GADT?
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2023-01-01 18:56:29 +0000 <monochrom> Profpatsch: You can still use randomRs (0, 61) and map 0-61 to a-zA-Z0-9.
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2023-01-01 19:21:39 +0000 <Profpatsch> monochrom: yeah I did something like that, thanks
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2023-01-01 19:22:14 +0000 <Profpatsch> create a list of all things I wanted, then create a list of random indexes & index into the list of chars
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2023-01-01 19:22:33 +0000 <[exa]> eldritchcookie[4: depends on how much heterogeneity you want; existentias are generally the way to go (haskell wiki should have some related reading material)
2023-01-01 19:22:46 +0000 <[exa]> *existentiaLs
2023-01-01 19:24:00 +0000 <[exa]> eldritchcookie[4: anyway re the "2 callbacks", that's a pretty common pattern, even the standard `bracket` is kinda like 2 callbacks (one without parameters tho)
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2023-01-01 19:40:56 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> i don't want to deal with existential types as i don't want to lose type information. guess i will define my own GADT and then whenever ghc starts shipping with a Heterogeneous list use that
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2023-01-01 19:44:37 +0000 <geekosaur> um. ghc usually goes for shipping less with instead of more, because anything shipped with ghc is effectively frozen and can only be upgraded by upgrading ghc
2023-01-01 19:45:01 +0000 <geekosaur> so waiting for something to be shipped with ghc is literally a losing proposition
2023-01-01 19:45:57 +0000 <[exa]> eldritchcookie[4: btw how would you avoid losing the type information? unless you store say complete type representations you can't have that easily; and type representations can be stored by making an existential that just packs some Generic-ish interface
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2023-01-01 19:48:45 +0000 <davean> Yah I'm really curious what he things it looks like to work with a hetreogenious list without losing type information'
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2023-01-01 19:53:32 +0000 <EvanR> heterolist as such usually keeps type information
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2023-01-01 19:54:03 +0000 <EvanR> by having the type of everything in the list in the type
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2023-01-01 19:58:14 +0000 <EvanR> a basic list of existential-like type (all the same) is something else
2023-01-01 20:03:57 +0000 <davean> I mean ok if thats what he means theres like vynl
2023-01-01 20:04:09 +0000 <davean> but I wouldn't actually call that a hetrolist
2023-01-01 20:04:36 +0000 <davean> (Its distinctly finite)
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2023-01-01 20:25:42 +0000 <EvanR> yeah extensible records without the field names is basically a heterolist
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2023-01-01 20:26:26 +0000 <EvanR> as far as infinite vs finite, your boring old list is actually finite in Idris
2023-01-01 20:26:30 +0000 <davean> hetrosequence I'd agree on, the potentially non-finiteness is personally important to me about lists.
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2023-01-01 20:26:42 +0000 <davean> Yah, thus Idris lacks lists to me :-p
2023-01-01 20:26:44 +0000 <EvanR> there's a separate type for potentially infinite list
2023-01-01 20:27:12 +0000 <davean> I don't know that I'm right, but thats a core destinction for a list vs. other sequence to me
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2023-01-01 20:28:15 +0000 <EvanR> on andre bauers blog somewhere he calls a mapping from some finite set a listing
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2023-01-01 20:34:10 +0000 <dolio> Being potentially infinite is definitely not an essential characteristic of lists, generally.
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2023-01-01 20:35:23 +0000 <dolio> It's handy in Haskell, though.
2023-01-01 20:37:26 +0000 <davean> dolio: See, I'd qualify all those other ones as different sorts of sequences
2023-01-01 20:37:35 +0000 <davean> I think there are a lot of types of sequences
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2023-01-01 20:45:41 +0000 <dolio> I suppose one could argue over whether the inductive definition actually matches historical notions of 'list,' since you can make circular lists with mutation.
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2023-01-01 20:46:20 +0000 <dolio> Which are kind of infinite, although they don't cover all possible infinite values.
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2023-01-01 21:48:33 +0000 <igghibu> hi all, happy new year :) I'm learning haskell with G Hutton book and I'm having difficulties with this list comprehension exercise: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/ClOaunRr -- the question is in the paste. help and pointers appreciated <3
2023-01-01 21:52:04 +0000 <c_wraith> igghibu: use pattern matching
2023-01-01 21:52:04 +0000 <igghibu> afplay /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ScreenReader.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Sounds/LayoutChanged.aiff
2023-01-01 21:52:08 +0000jmdaemon(~jmdaemon@user/jmdaemon)
2023-01-01 21:52:18 +0000 <stefan-_> igghibu, (x, y) <- grid n n
2023-01-01 21:52:18 +0000 <igghibu> afplay /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ScreenReader.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Sounds/LayoutChanged.aiff
2023-01-01 21:54:12 +0000 <geekosaur> igghibu, I think you have a misconfigured client, it's sending a play command to the channel instead of running it
2023-01-01 21:54:13 +0000 <igghibu> afplay /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ScreenReader.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Sounds/LayoutChanged.aiff
2023-01-01 21:54:24 +0000 <igghibu> sorry
2023-01-01 21:54:27 +0000 <igghibu> will fix
2023-01-01 21:54:30 +0000 <igghibu> now
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2023-01-01 22:02:50 +0000 <igghibu> stefan-_: test?
2023-01-01 22:03:04 +0000jakalx(~jakalx@base.jakalx.net) (Error from remote client)
2023-01-01 22:03:16 +0000 <stefan-_> igghibu, test
2023-01-01 22:03:27 +0000 <igghibu> yay!
2023-01-01 22:03:28 +0000 <stefan-_> :)
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2023-01-01 22:07:08 +0000 <dsal> @check \x -> x == 1
2023-01-01 22:07:10 +0000 <lambdabot> *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test):
2023-01-01 22:07:10 +0000 <lambdabot> 0
2023-01-01 22:07:15 +0000 <dsal> oh no. My test failed.
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2023-01-01 22:13:44 +0000 <hololeap> lambdabot does quickcheck?
2023-01-01 22:14:03 +0000 <hololeap> that's awesome
2023-01-01 22:14:55 +0000 <dsal> I think it has smallcheck, too.
2023-01-01 22:16:18 +0000 <geekosaur> I thought it did but didn't see it anywhere when writing the docs
2023-01-01 22:16:29 +0000 <geekosaur> wonder if that plugin got removed
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2023-01-01 22:16:42 +0000 <geekosaur> @scheck
2023-01-01 22:16:42 +0000 <lambdabot> <unknown>.hs:1:1:Parse error: EOF
2023-01-01 22:16:51 +0000 <geekosaur> @small
2023-01-01 22:16:51 +0000 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: spell smack
2023-01-01 22:17:21 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> i am having problems with GADTs i am confused onj how to write a proof term that a certain type is a function with n arguments
2023-01-01 22:17:27 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> s/onj/on/
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2023-01-01 22:20:02 +0000 <igghibu> good night all
2023-01-01 22:20:04 +0000igghibu(~igghibu@37.120.201.86) (Quit: igghibu)
2023-01-01 22:20:25 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> good night
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2023-01-01 22:27:17 +0000 <dsal> @scheck \x -> x == True
2023-01-01 22:27:19 +0000 <lambdabot> *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test):
2023-01-01 22:27:19 +0000 <lambdabot> False
2023-01-01 22:27:27 +0000sympt(~sympt@user/sympt)
2023-01-01 22:27:30 +0000 <dsal> @spell smack
2023-01-01 22:27:30 +0000 <lambdabot> smack
2023-01-01 22:27:33 +0000 <dsal> nice
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2023-01-01 23:02:46 +0000 <hololeap> eldritchcookie[4: when you say N elements, is N a fixed value or are you trying to count it with type level programming?
2023-01-01 23:02:57 +0000 <hololeap> *n arguments
2023-01-01 23:04:27 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> with type level programming if it were a fixed n i could just template haskell my way to victory
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2023-01-01 23:04:51 +0000 <hololeap> what do you have so far?
2023-01-01 23:05:06 +0000sh1n(~sh1n@181.229.121.151) (Client Quit)
2023-01-01 23:05:23 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> type ResultProof::Natural -> Type -> Type -> Type... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/98755511f3686891a1c20ade4e48307da848…>)
2023-01-01 23:05:47 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> but i can't make the recursive instance
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2023-01-01 23:08:10 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> if i try
2023-01-01 23:08:10 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> instance IsFunctionClass n a r => IsFunctionClass (n+1) (b -> a) r where
2023-01-01 23:08:10 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> isFunctionProof = ResultIsNext isFunctionProof
2023-01-01 23:08:44 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> it complains about illegal type synonym family
2023-01-01 23:09:34 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> and
2023-01-01 23:09:34 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> instance IsFunctionClass (n-1) a r => IsFunctionClass n (b -> a) r where
2023-01-01 23:09:34 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> isFunctionProof = ResultIsNext isFunctionProof
2023-01-01 23:10:01 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> fails with not satisfying the liberal coverage condition
2023-01-01 23:12:13 +0000 <hololeap> are you trying to set the kind for `data ResultProof` using `type ResultProof` on a different line? maybe that's valid syntax but I haven't seen it before
2023-01-01 23:12:13 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/X8U9pJrC
2023-01-01 23:12:39 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> that is a standalone kind signature
2023-01-01 23:12:57 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> the idea is that kind declarations mirror type declarrations
2023-01-01 23:13:41 +0000 <hololeap> oh, I've never used that extension before
2023-01-01 23:15:58 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> https://ghc.gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/doc/users_guide/exts/poly_kinds.html#extension-StandaloneKindSi… the idea is to substitute CUSKs
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2023-01-01 23:22:14 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> wow amazing now i get can't match n with ((n - 1) + 1)
2023-01-01 23:22:35 +0000 <geekosaur> ghc doesn't really know how to do type level math
2023-01-01 23:22:58 +0000 <hololeap> ResultIsNext :: ResultProof n a r -> ResultProof (n+1) (v -> a) r
2023-01-01 23:23:31 +0000 <hololeap> so this looks like there is an implicit existential quantification on v, it isn't mentioned anywhere else
2023-01-01 23:23:31 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> yes?
2023-01-01 23:23:32 +0000 <geekosaur> there are some plugins available that recognize type level math and add enough extra context so ghc can solve it. see natnormalize for example
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2023-01-01 23:27:24 +0000 <hololeap> I'm not sure I'll be much help with this, it's a bit beyond my level :)
2023-01-01 23:28:01 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> no problem :)
2023-01-01 23:28:04 +0000 <hololeap> I have played around with something similar in the past but my implementation was very different, and that was also a long time ago
2023-01-01 23:28:44 +0000 <hololeap> I have a hard time with FunctionalDependencies, for some reason
2023-01-01 23:30:06 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> you can just ignore them just add the head on the context like instance Functor f=>Functor f where
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2023-01-01 23:31:37 +0000 <eldritchcookie[4> geekosaur i search for natnormalize and nat normalize on hackage and i didn't find it can you send a link?
2023-01-01 23:32:18 +0000 <geekosaur> turns out it's spelled britishly. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ghc-typelits-natnormalise
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2023-01-01 23:46:53 +0000 <Profpatsch> In GHCI, can I tell it to just enable hidden packages
2023-01-01 23:47:06 +0000 <Profpatsch> I hate having to modify the cabal file just to experiment with stuff
2023-01-01 23:47:42 +0000 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ghc-typelits-knownnat is another useful one
2023-01-01 23:48:23 +0000 <geekosaur> Profpatsch, there's no way to do it for all packages, no
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2023-01-01 23:48:44 +0000 <geekosaur> you can enable a specific package with :set -package foo
2023-01-01 23:49:05 +0000 <Profpatsch> geekosaur: nice, that does it
2023-01-01 23:49:10 +0000 <Profpatsch> should be in the error message
2023-01-01 23:53:47 +0000 <geekosaur> I think it used to be, but the error message doesn't know if it's been triggered by ghci or compilation and randomly tossing -package options into ghc-options is a good way to break stack in particular
2023-01-01 23:54:34 +0000 <Profpatsch> how … could that brneak stack
2023-01-01 23:54:40 +0000 <Profpatsch> Unless you add it to .ghci
2023-01-01 23:54:58 +0000 <geekosaur> again, it does not know that it was invoked from ghci
2023-01-01 23:55:43 +0000 <geekosaur> it's the same error message whether you're using ghci, building with raw ghc, building with stack, building with cabal, etc.
2023-01-01 23:56:37 +0000 <geekosaur> it's less likely to happen with stack or cabal builds, but it can still happen and following a suggestion to use -package will have bad results in those cases
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2023-01-01 23:57:33 +0000 <Profpatsch> What kind of error would happen?
2023-01-01 23:57:47 +0000 <Profpatsch> As far as I understand, ghc package databases only allow one packages of the same name
2023-01-01 23:58:15 +0000 <geekosaur> okay, forget I said anything. somehow we aren't even in the same book much less on the same page
2023-01-01 23:59:37 +0000 <geekosaur> (you said you wanted -package to be mentioned in the error message. I am talking about that error message. it is not a ghci-specific error message)
2023-01-01 23:59:50 +0000 <Profpatsch> It’s a GHC error message, no?
2023-01-01 23:59:53 +0000 <geekosaur> yes
2023-01-01 23:59:58 +0000 <Profpatsch> GHC uses ghc packages