2022-12-24 00:06:47 +0100 | <Inst> | sort of feels like a shame that the core Haskell team wandered off to industry / random projects |
2022-12-24 00:07:07 +0100 | <Inst> | the parallelization on Haskell could use improvement |
2022-12-24 00:07:50 +0100 | beefbambi | (~beefbambi@183.82.30.144) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
2022-12-24 00:08:50 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | I feel like I want to help and contribute to haskell, but im unsure in what ways I could do anything that has a meaningful impact or purpose |
2022-12-24 00:09:24 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | especially because, even though it has been getting better, my haskell is far from perfect and there are still a lot of things I need to learn |
2022-12-24 00:10:22 +0100 | thegeekinside | (~thegeekin@189.128.148.159) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
2022-12-24 00:11:36 +0100 | <monochrom> | If you actually use Haskell, you're already contributing! Because one day people are going to ask "does anyone still use Haskell anymore?" and you're going to ask "I still do, haskell is not going away, not on my watch". |
2022-12-24 00:13:24 +0100 | azimut | (~azimut@gateway/tor-sasl/azimut) |
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2022-12-24 00:18:56 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | Something that meets the intersection of being useful and interesting/fun to me would be writing a library, though I'm unsure what for |
2022-12-24 00:20:14 +0100 | lagash_ | (lagash@lagash.shelltalk.net) (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) |
2022-12-24 00:20:42 +0100 | <geekosaur> | Inst, I think the core GHC team would be surprised to learn that they no longer exist |
2022-12-24 00:21:19 +0100 | <monochrom> | Ah but the core Haskell team (exact wording) would not be surprised >:) |
2022-12-24 00:22:00 +0100 | <geekosaur> | what does parallelization have to do with the language definition? |
2022-12-24 00:22:13 +0100 | <monochrom> | The core Haskell team writes Haskell code for those who don't write Haskell code for themselves >:D |
2022-12-24 00:22:36 +0100 | <monochrom> | Right, so this is why I'm pretty sure "core Haskell team" was wrong wording. |
2022-12-24 00:23:00 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.159) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
2022-12-24 00:25:00 +0100 | <monochrom> | especially the word "core" |
2022-12-24 00:25:20 +0100 | lagash_ | (lagash@lagash.shelltalk.net) |
2022-12-24 00:25:51 +0100 | <monochrom> | parallel haskell has always been a kind of DLC rather than any kind of "core", at least for GHC. |
2022-12-24 00:27:33 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | Is there a way of interleaving a MonadError Foo m and some thing that needs an unlift like foo :: (a -> IO a) -> IO a |
2022-12-24 00:28:17 +0100 | <monochrom> | Perhaps m needs to support both in the first place. |
2022-12-24 00:28:44 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | monochrom: yeah, but my problem is that e.g. ExceptT and MonadUnliftIO don’t vibe |
2022-12-24 00:28:51 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | there can’t be any state if you want to unlift |
2022-12-24 00:29:02 +0100 | <monochrom> | Alternatively go all out and try one of those effect libraries... |
2022-12-24 00:30:34 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | More to the point, we use servant, which requires everything to have a a `MonadError ServantError m` restriction, but I’d like to lift stuff like https://hackage.haskell.org/package/postgresql-simple-0.6.5/docs/Database-PostgreSQL-Simple.html#v… into our m |
2022-12-24 00:31:03 +0100 | fizbin | (~fizbin@user/fizbin) |
2022-12-24 00:31:43 +0100 | beefbambi | (~beefbambi@183.82.30.144) |
2022-12-24 00:33:18 +0100 | <monochrom> | In this case, perhaps you can runExceptT somewhere and ExceptT-wrap somewhere else. Basically doing the conjugation yourself. |
2022-12-24 00:33:58 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | yeah I’m thinking about how to build a “degraded” stack that allows that |
2022-12-24 00:34:10 +0100 | <monochrom> | So basically set a = Either Foo a1 |
2022-12-24 00:34:21 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | hmmm |
2022-12-24 00:35:02 +0100 | <monochrom> | So I mean something like: ExceptT (fold_ ... (runExceptT ...)) |
2022-12-24 00:35:25 +0100 | <monochrom> | err, ExceptT (fold_ ... (\a r -> runExceptT ...)) |
2022-12-24 00:35:42 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | monochrom: Ah so you mean not over any (UnliftIO m), just over ExceptT |
2022-12-24 00:35:44 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | hmmm |
2022-12-24 00:35:46 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | maybe that works |
2022-12-24 00:35:48 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | I’ll try it out |
2022-12-24 00:35:53 +0100 | iqubic | (~avi@2601:602:9502:c70:4602:12a1:6697:a25f) |
2022-12-24 00:37:22 +0100 | <Inst> | Haskell is actually doing fairly well on Google Trends |
2022-12-24 00:37:44 +0100 | <Inst> | I think when the last HF foundation director was kind enough to speak to me, he was absolutely right that Haskell needs lots of improvement in tooling and ecosystem |
2022-12-24 00:38:01 +0100 | <dgpratt[m]> | @pl f x y = g (h x y) |
2022-12-24 00:38:02 +0100 | <lambdabot> | f = (g .) . h |
2022-12-24 00:38:29 +0100 | <Inst> | lol "pl" => "pointless" |
2022-12-24 00:39:51 +0100 | <Inst> | regarding the parallelism; I'm wondering if there's an intrinsic compatibility between laziness and parallelism |
2022-12-24 00:40:29 +0100 | <Inst> | Haskell survives because it's lazy-by-default; Haskell was designed to unify lazy languages in FP space, and it seems that no one else is going to do lazy-by-default |
2022-12-24 00:45:54 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | <Inst> "I think when the last HF..." <- What parts of the ecosystem specifically? |
2022-12-24 00:46:13 +0100 | <monochrom> | libraries, as usual |
2022-12-24 00:47:03 +0100 | <monochrom> | there could be more, but libraries are the foundation |
2022-12-24 00:47:16 +0100 | <Inst> | have you tried python? It's worth it just to see what best-in-class library is |
2022-12-24 00:47:19 +0100 | `2jt | (~jtomas@84.red-88-17-186.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
2022-12-24 00:47:20 +0100 | <Inst> | erm, ecosystem is |
2022-12-24 00:47:40 +0100 | <Inst> | the main drawbacks is that Haskell community tends to be more helpful, and on average, more skilled due to higher average experience |
2022-12-24 00:47:50 +0100 | <monochrom> | Unlike the 1970s (much simpler time), people choose languages by just looking at community libraries. |
2022-12-24 00:47:58 +0100 | <Inst> | in Py / JS, you'll find people who have difficulty writing a for-loop |
2022-12-24 00:48:05 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | haha yeah |
2022-12-24 00:48:25 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | Inst: i've worked with it yeah |
2022-12-24 00:48:49 +0100 | <Inst> | point of Haskell for me is essentially being able to hang out with Haskellers |
2022-12-24 00:49:16 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | what, in your opinion, would be an important library or piece of tooling haskell needs? |
2022-12-24 00:50:21 +0100 | cheater_ | (~Username@user/cheater) |
2022-12-24 00:50:26 +0100 | <monochrom> | the latest fad, i.e., machine learning |
2022-12-24 00:50:34 +0100 | <Inst> | there are tensorflow bindings, no? |
2022-12-24 00:50:45 +0100 | <monochrom> | (thank god the other latest fad, blockchain, is already covered) |
2022-12-24 00:51:09 +0100 | <Inst> | ML isn't a fad; if you look at how far GPTChat has come |
2022-12-24 00:51:11 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | monochrom: something like numpy (numhs?) or something more specific? |
2022-12-24 00:51:17 +0100 | <Inst> | numpy is a big hole, afaik |
2022-12-24 00:51:21 +0100 | <monochrom> | But more seriously, GUI is still in a very bad state. At least how I feel it. |
2022-12-24 00:51:21 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.159) |
2022-12-24 00:51:25 +0100 | <Inst> | Haskell can't compare to Julia when it comes to numerical computation |
2022-12-24 00:51:28 +0100 | <Inst> | yeah, I agree |
2022-12-24 00:51:45 +0100 | <Inst> | GUI makes it hard to learn / teach Haskell because people want the endorphin rush of having a GUI they coded |
2022-12-24 00:51:51 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | monochrom: Everything is web-based nowadays |
2022-12-24 00:52:01 +0100 | <Inst> | I can't even get threepenny-gui to install on Windows |
2022-12-24 00:52:02 +0100 | <Inst> | :( |
2022-12-24 00:52:30 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | I started hating GUIs, then I started hating CLI/TUI and now I don't write any applications anymore |
2022-12-24 00:52:46 +0100 | cheater | (~Username@user/cheater) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
2022-12-24 00:52:46 +0100 | cheater_ | cheater |
2022-12-24 00:52:55 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | (this isn't a joke, btw) |
2022-12-24 00:53:04 +0100 | <Inst> | so you just do scripts / webdesign? |
2022-12-24 00:53:09 +0100 | goober | (~goober@90-231-13-185-no3430.tbcn.telia.com) |
2022-12-24 00:53:21 +0100 | <monochrom> | When you finally hate computing altogether, that will be enlightenment. |
2022-12-24 00:53:46 +0100 | sagax | (~sagax_nb@user/sagax) |
2022-12-24 00:53:50 +0100 | <Inst> | Web honestly is probably the best chance Haskell has of growing its userbase |
2022-12-24 00:54:04 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | Inst: I exclusively do language intrinsic things lmao |
2022-12-24 00:54:10 +0100 | <monochrom> | At least computing in practice. |
2022-12-24 00:54:20 +0100 | <Inst> | so, compilers? |
2022-12-24 00:54:32 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | not even, no |
2022-12-24 00:54:35 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | I just code for the sake of coding |
2022-12-24 00:54:51 +0100 | <monochrom> | Well, web is also a fad, just a much more long-running one. |
2022-12-24 00:54:51 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | I write functions, doodle around |
2022-12-24 00:55:04 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | I boot up ghci and try out stuff |
2022-12-24 00:55:15 +0100 | <monochrom> | Let's face it, popularity = fad. Virtually a tautology. |
2022-12-24 00:55:16 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | and then I delete my entire projects folder again |
2022-12-24 00:55:19 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | it's an endless cycle |
2022-12-24 00:55:44 +0100 | <monochrom> | Aww, you don't have to delete them :) |
2022-12-24 00:56:07 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.159) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
2022-12-24 00:56:35 +0100 | <monochrom> | I have a "project" directory and a "study-notes" directory. Inside them are all sorts of subdirectories that are not really different from yours. But I don't delete them. |
2022-12-24 00:56:48 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | haha I know, but they are usually "projects" with five or less functions because I lose interest so quickly |
2022-12-24 00:57:15 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | I haven't had something I worked on for more than a day in maybe a year? |
2022-12-24 00:57:26 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | It just sucks |
2022-12-24 00:57:34 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
2022-12-24 00:57:42 +0100 | <monochrom> | Once in a while, it pays off when I find that something I need today has some unfinished sketch I left 10 years ago. |
2022-12-24 00:58:20 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | I talk a lot to people and discuss haskell |
2022-12-24 00:58:30 +0100 | zero | zzz |
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2022-12-24 00:58:43 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | So I write more code on discord or matrix than in ghci/source files |
2022-12-24 00:58:52 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.159) |
2022-12-24 01:03:10 +0100 | <Inst> | fad implies that something is transient in the short-term |
2022-12-24 01:03:28 +0100 | elevenkb | (~elevenkb@105.224.37.128) |
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2022-12-24 01:03:41 +0100 | <Inst> | programming is a fad |
2022-12-24 01:03:43 +0100 | <Inst> | comp sci, maybe not |
2022-12-24 01:04:19 +0100 | <Inst> | in that, if you've seen what ChatGPT's been able to produce, we're probably not that far away from having programmers displaced by AI |
2022-12-24 01:04:34 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | I disagree |
2022-12-24 01:04:55 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | ChatGPT fails rather quickly at tasks, especially as they scale |
2022-12-24 01:04:57 +0100 | <monochrom> | "machine learning" doesn't always means the good and important and long-lasting fruits of machine learning. |
2022-12-24 01:05:23 +0100 | <monochrom> | It can also mean what most people who self-identify as "machine learning" actually do. |
2022-12-24 01:05:34 +0100 | <Inst> | i'm not aware of the scammy parts of ML, tbh |
2022-12-24 01:05:44 +0100 | <Inst> | I know that ML is a cash cow for people in the CS / programming space |
2022-12-24 01:05:44 +0100 | <monochrom> | You bet 99% of those are going to be very ephemeral. |
2022-12-24 01:05:53 +0100 | <Inst> | barely understand anything, just know how to feed inputs to a neural network |
2022-12-24 01:06:12 +0100 | <Inst> | but i'm not aware of it in detail |
2022-12-24 01:07:03 +0100 | cheater_ | (~Username@user/cheater) |
2022-12-24 01:07:04 +0100 | OscarZ | (~oscarz@95.175.104.82) |
2022-12-24 01:07:51 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | my go-to analogy is that ML simply finds a local minimum to a function |
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2022-12-24 01:08:29 +0100 | <monochrom> | I'm impressed with ChatGPT though because someone said they got from it an acceptable explanation of monads XD |
2022-12-24 01:08:32 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | it's not "intelligent" |
2022-12-24 01:08:49 +0100 | <Jadesheit[m]> | monochrom: it simply reproduces |
2022-12-24 01:08:54 +0100 | <monochrom> | Am I intelligent then? I doubt it. |
2022-12-24 01:09:07 +0100 | <dgpratt[m]> | well this thing will never be anything but a toy, but it is just so gosh darn satisfying to craft a basic parser/interpreter in Haskell |
2022-12-24 01:09:10 +0100 | <monochrom> | I always like to assert that I'm a living Chinese Room right here in my brain. |
2022-12-24 01:09:56 +0100 | cheater | (~Username@user/cheater) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
2022-12-24 01:10:01 +0100 | cheater_ | cheater |
2022-12-24 01:10:39 +0100 | <monochrom> | Most students in most schools, even universities, are also putting in no more effort that finding local maxima to a mark function. |
2022-12-24 01:10:52 +0100 | <monochrom> | otherwise known as "gaming the system". |
2022-12-24 01:12:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | "guessing the teacher's password" |
2022-12-24 01:12:32 +0100 | <monochrom> | I have first-hand experience with Asian students going to Canadian universities with impossibly high TOEFL scores and impossibly broken English grammar in real life. |
2022-12-24 01:12:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (which reportedly is where ChatGPT's name came from) |
2022-12-24 01:12:51 +0100 | <monochrom> | I dare say ChatGPT is better than them. |
2022-12-24 01:13:12 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.159) |
2022-12-24 01:13:34 +0100 | <monochrom> | At least ChatGPT has better grammar. |
2022-12-24 01:14:15 +0100 | <monochrom> | As opposed to TOEFL takers whose study strategy is to memorize pages after pages of English dictionaries. |
2022-12-24 01:15:01 +0100 | <monochrom> | So far for every known AI flaw I can point to a corresponing human fallacy. |
2022-12-24 01:15:27 +0100 | <geekosaur> | agreed |
2022-12-24 01:15:35 +0100 | <Inst> | hmm, turns out that threepenny did run |
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2022-12-24 01:16:58 +0100 | <monochrom> | Come to think of it, probably a fundamental theorem about any kind of learning under any kind of fast marking scheme. |
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2022-12-24 01:25:28 +0100 | <Inst> | monochrom: tbh, that's more like a test design problem, isn't it? |
2022-12-24 01:25:36 +0100 | <Inst> | map and territory, when they merge, it's a good test |
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2022-12-24 01:26:06 +0100 | <geekosaur> | choose a different style, it'll have its own weakness |
2022-12-24 01:27:13 +0100 | <Inst> | i.e, i've heard that in parts of east asia they just gave up on fighting "adaptiveness" to test regimens and decided to make it so that studying for the test is actually studying the material via test design |
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2022-12-24 01:37:26 +0100 | <monochrom> | Easier said than done. As usual. |
2022-12-24 01:38:02 +0100 | <monochrom> | You see, teachers and markers are optimizing a do-less-work-for-more-money function, too! |
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2022-12-24 05:30:56 +0100 | <int-e> | Inst_: `foldb` is an alternative `fold` for lists that groups the operations different (in the shape of a binary tree)... it's usually slower than the default `fold` because those intermediate lists actually materialize, so that's a significant overhead. But in the case of `factorial` it does a decent job of multiplying like-sized numbers, keeping intermediate results smaller. |
2022-12-24 05:31:44 +0100 | <int-e> | "in the shape of a binary tree" which is balanced, that is, rather than completely left- or right-leaning. |
2022-12-24 05:33:21 +0100 | <int-e> | > foldMap Sum [x,1,2,3] |
2022-12-24 05:33:22 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Sum {getSum = x + (1 + (2 + (3 + 0)))} |
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2022-12-24 06:16:53 +0100 | <calco> | hello |
2022-12-24 06:17:34 +0100 | <calco> | anybody home |
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2022-12-24 06:21:50 +0100 | <calco> | hello? |
2022-12-24 06:22:01 +0100 | <calco> | does anybody copy |
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2022-12-24 06:26:12 +0100 | <pavonia> | Hello |
2022-12-24 06:26:25 +0100 | <GrumpyOldGandalf> | Hi |
2022-12-24 06:26:27 +0100 | <calco> | how goes? |
2022-12-24 06:27:01 +0100 | azimut | (~azimut@gateway/tor-sasl/azimut) |
2022-12-24 06:31:10 +0100 | <calco> | I'm looking for some beginner haskell help, if anyone's willing |
2022-12-24 06:36:26 +0100 | <pavonia> | Go ahead and ask your question |
2022-12-24 06:37:29 +0100 | mbuf | (~Shakthi@49.204.138.163) |
2022-12-24 06:38:22 +0100 | <calco> | I'm working on a tic tac toe app for practice, and I want to structure it all using pattern matching and generally improve my functions |
2022-12-24 06:39:04 +0100 | <calco> | I have low cardinality data types, and some function outlines, but I could use some pointers for how to improve the program in general |
2022-12-24 06:39:16 +0100 | <calco> | should I share the file somehow? |
2022-12-24 06:40:16 +0100 | <pavonia> | Yeah, the pastebin at https://paste.tomsmeding.com/ is preferred in this channel |
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2022-12-24 07:18:28 +0100 | <Inst_> | int-e i actually asked a production haskeller about foldb |
2022-12-24 07:18:53 +0100 | <Inst_> | it matches parallelization algorithms he uses, although he always sets the sparks too small |
2022-12-24 07:22:30 +0100 | <int-e> | Hah. When did "MapReduce" stop being a buzzword? Haven't heard it in a while. |
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2022-12-24 08:30:50 +0100 | Inst_ | Inst |
2022-12-24 08:31:14 +0100 | <Inst> | also, @int-e, do you know anything |
2022-12-24 08:31:17 +0100 | <Inst> | about primeswing? |
2022-12-24 08:31:23 +0100 | <Inst> | I'm benchmarking Haskell vs Julia |
2022-12-24 08:31:38 +0100 | <Inst> | I actually got GHCI to beat Julia in implementing a naive fibonacci function |
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2022-12-24 12:32:23 +0100 | cheater_ | cheater |
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2022-12-24 12:55:46 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | Is there a newtype instance of UnliftIO that witnesses the correspondence to MonadBaseControl? |
2022-12-24 12:55:54 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | MonadBaseControl IO that is |
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2022-12-24 16:55:07 +0100 | <tf64> | hi |
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2022-12-24 16:55:20 +0100 | <geekosaur> | hello |
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2022-12-24 17:35:35 +0100 | Bocaneri | Guest4241 |
2022-12-24 17:36:03 +0100 | <calco> | aeyo |
2022-12-24 17:36:31 +0100 | <calco> | hows it kickin' y'all |
2022-12-24 17:37:03 +0100 | <geekosaur> | not sure anyone else is around today 🙂 |
2022-12-24 17:38:05 +0100 | Sauvin | (~sauvin@user/Sauvin) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
2022-12-24 17:38:14 +0100 | Guest4241 | Sauvin |
2022-12-24 17:38:33 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I'm not stupid enough to go out in high winds and temperatures colder than my freezer gets |
2022-12-24 17:38:48 +0100 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@2600:1700:38c5:d800:5cf9:c33d:ed9e:f2a3) |
2022-12-24 17:40:28 +0100 | <calco> | you know it's bad when florida starts getting freeze warnings |
2022-12-24 17:40:41 +0100 | <calco> | might have to put a t-shirt on... |
2022-12-24 17:40:50 +0100 | <calco> | >:( |
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2022-12-24 19:57:49 +0100 | famubu | (~famubu@user/famubu) |
2022-12-24 19:58:21 +0100 | <famubu> | Hi. I was doing `1=2` in ghci and it gave no error. What gives? I obviously am missing something basic. |
2022-12-24 19:59:13 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's just a lazy pattern match, that can never be seen because there's no binding that could be used to force it |
2022-12-24 20:00:22 +0100 | <geekosaur> | so it just sits there taking up memory until it gets garbage collected because it's unreachable |
2022-12-24 20:00:23 +0100 | <hpc> | the googleable term is "irrefutable pattern" |
2022-12-24 20:00:38 +0100 | <hpc> | > let ~(Just x) = Nothing in x |
2022-12-24 20:00:39 +0100 | <lambdabot> | *Exception: <interactive>:3:5-23: Non-exhaustive patterns in Just x |
2022-12-24 20:00:48 +0100 | <hpc> | ^ what happens when one gets forced |
2022-12-24 20:01:45 +0100 | Guest323 | (~finn@roc37-h01-176-170-197-243.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
2022-12-24 20:03:33 +0100 | <famubu> | Oh.. Thanks! |
2022-12-24 20:03:49 +0100 | <famubu> | The `~` is to force eval, right? |
2022-12-24 20:04:23 +0100 | <geekosaur> | the opposite. `let` bindings, unlike top level beindings, are strict; the ~ is needed to make it lazy |
2022-12-24 20:04:35 +0100 | <geekosaur> | ]then attempting to access `x` forces the lazy pattern |
2022-12-24 20:04:54 +0100 | <hpc> | a strict pattern match looks like |
2022-12-24 20:05:03 +0100 | <hpc> | > let !(Just x) = Nothing in "this" |
2022-12-24 20:05:05 +0100 | <lambdabot> | "*Exception: <interactive>:3:5-23: Non-exhaustive patterns in Just x |
2022-12-24 20:05:19 +0100 | <hpc> | notice x isn't used, but it still dies |
2022-12-24 20:05:44 +0100 | <geekosaur> | > let ~(Just x) = Nothing in "this" -- this, on the other hand, works |
2022-12-24 20:05:46 +0100 | <lambdabot> | "this" |
2022-12-24 20:06:12 +0100 | <hpc> | > let jx@(Just x) = Just 5 in (x, jx) -- and just for completeness, at-patterns give you the whole thing's name at the same time you match on it |
2022-12-24 20:06:13 +0100 | <lambdabot> | (5,Just 5) |
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2022-12-24 20:27:41 +0100 | Cale_ | Cale |
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2022-12-24 20:42:13 +0100 | <carbolymer> | I think I'm having a brain fart with lenses, why this does not work: https://c-v.sh/mainstreamcotquean.txt ? |
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2022-12-24 20:45:17 +0100 | <carbolymer> | ah yes, ghci couldn't guess the type of `[1]` |
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2022-12-24 23:07:20 +0100 | <hololeap> | @hackage lifted-base -- Profpatsch: you might want this? |
2022-12-24 23:07:20 +0100 | <lambdabot> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/lifted-base -- Profpatsch: you might want this? |
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2022-12-24 23:10:14 +0100 | <hololeap> | not that it's what you're asking for, but I guessed you're looking for some of the extra stuff in unliftio but for MonadBaseControl |
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2022-12-24 23:57:14 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | hololeap: hrm yeah, postgresql-simple in my case |
2022-12-24 23:57:24 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | I’m really annoyed at this mtl stuff |
2022-12-24 23:57:39 +0100 | <Profpatsch> | I feel like it’s one of the super unergonomic parts of Haskell |