| 2022-12-24 00:03:10 +0000 | <Inst> | fad implies that something is transient in the short-term |
| 2022-12-24 00:03:28 +0000 | elevenkb | (~elevenkb@105.224.37.128) |
| 2022-12-24 00:03:32 +0000 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.159) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2022-12-24 00:03:41 +0000 | <Inst> | programming is a fad |
| 2022-12-24 00:03:43 +0000 | <Inst> | comp sci, maybe not |
| 2022-12-24 00:04:19 +0000 | <Inst> | in that, if you've seen what ChatGPT's been able to produce, we're probably not that far away from having programmers displaced by AI |
| 2022-12-24 00:04:34 +0000 | <Jadesheit[m]> | I disagree |
| 2022-12-24 00:04:55 +0000 | <Jadesheit[m]> | ChatGPT fails rather quickly at tasks, especially as they scale |
| 2022-12-24 00:04:57 +0000 | <monochrom> | "machine learning" doesn't always means the good and important and long-lasting fruits of machine learning. |
| 2022-12-24 00:05:23 +0000 | <monochrom> | It can also mean what most people who self-identify as "machine learning" actually do. |
| 2022-12-24 00:05:34 +0000 | <Inst> | i'm not aware of the scammy parts of ML, tbh |
| 2022-12-24 00:05:44 +0000 | <Inst> | I know that ML is a cash cow for people in the CS / programming space |
| 2022-12-24 00:05:44 +0000 | <monochrom> | You bet 99% of those are going to be very ephemeral. |
| 2022-12-24 00:05:53 +0000 | <Inst> | barely understand anything, just know how to feed inputs to a neural network |
| 2022-12-24 00:06:12 +0000 | <Inst> | but i'm not aware of it in detail |
| 2022-12-24 00:07:03 +0000 | cheater_ | (~Username@user/cheater) |
| 2022-12-24 00:07:04 +0000 | OscarZ | (~oscarz@95.175.104.82) |
| 2022-12-24 00:07:51 +0000 | <Jadesheit[m]> | my go-to analogy is that ML simply finds a local minimum to a function |
| 2022-12-24 00:07:58 +0000 | fizbin | (~fizbin@user/fizbin) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2022-12-24 00:08:29 +0000 | <monochrom> | I'm impressed with ChatGPT though because someone said they got from it an acceptable explanation of monads XD |
| 2022-12-24 00:08:32 +0000 | <Jadesheit[m]> | it's not "intelligent" |
| 2022-12-24 00:08:49 +0000 | <Jadesheit[m]> | monochrom: it simply reproduces |
| 2022-12-24 00:08:54 +0000 | <monochrom> | Am I intelligent then? I doubt it. |
| 2022-12-24 00:09:07 +0000 | <dgpratt[m]> | well this thing will never be anything but a toy, but it is just so gosh darn satisfying to craft a basic parser/interpreter in Haskell |
| 2022-12-24 00:09:10 +0000 | <monochrom> | I always like to assert that I'm a living Chinese Room right here in my brain. |
| 2022-12-24 00:09:56 +0000 | cheater | (~Username@user/cheater) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2022-12-24 00:10:01 +0000 | cheater_ | cheater |
| 2022-12-24 00:10:39 +0000 | <monochrom> | Most students in most schools, even universities, are also putting in no more effort that finding local maxima to a mark function. |
| 2022-12-24 00:10:52 +0000 | <monochrom> | otherwise known as "gaming the system". |
| 2022-12-24 00:12:15 +0000 | <geekosaur> | "guessing the teacher's password" |
| 2022-12-24 00:12:32 +0000 | <monochrom> | I have first-hand experience with Asian students going to Canadian universities with impossibly high TOEFL scores and impossibly broken English grammar in real life. |
| 2022-12-24 00:12:37 +0000 | <geekosaur> | (which reportedly is where ChatGPT's name came from) |
| 2022-12-24 00:12:51 +0000 | <monochrom> | I dare say ChatGPT is better than them. |
| 2022-12-24 00:13:12 +0000 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.159) |
| 2022-12-24 00:13:34 +0000 | <monochrom> | At least ChatGPT has better grammar. |
| 2022-12-24 00:14:15 +0000 | <monochrom> | As opposed to TOEFL takers whose study strategy is to memorize pages after pages of English dictionaries. |
| 2022-12-24 00:15:01 +0000 | <monochrom> | So far for every known AI flaw I can point to a corresponing human fallacy. |
| 2022-12-24 00:15:27 +0000 | <geekosaur> | agreed |
| 2022-12-24 00:15:35 +0000 | <Inst> | hmm, turns out that threepenny did run |
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| 2022-12-24 00:16:58 +0000 | <monochrom> | Come to think of it, probably a fundamental theorem about any kind of learning under any kind of fast marking scheme. |
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| 2022-12-24 00:18:36 +0000 | [itchyjunk] | (~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470) |
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| 2022-12-24 00:25:28 +0000 | <Inst> | monochrom: tbh, that's more like a test design problem, isn't it? |
| 2022-12-24 00:25:36 +0000 | <Inst> | map and territory, when they merge, it's a good test |
| 2022-12-24 00:25:57 +0000 | mauke_ | (~mauke@user/mauke) |
| 2022-12-24 00:26:06 +0000 | <geekosaur> | choose a different style, it'll have its own weakness |
| 2022-12-24 00:27:13 +0000 | <Inst> | i.e, i've heard that in parts of east asia they just gave up on fighting "adaptiveness" to test regimens and decided to make it so that studying for the test is actually studying the material via test design |
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| 2022-12-24 00:37:26 +0000 | <monochrom> | Easier said than done. As usual. |
| 2022-12-24 00:38:02 +0000 | <monochrom> | You see, teachers and markers are optimizing a do-less-work-for-more-money function, too! |
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| 2022-12-24 04:30:56 +0000 | <int-e> | Inst_: `foldb` is an alternative `fold` for lists that groups the operations different (in the shape of a binary tree)... it's usually slower than the default `fold` because those intermediate lists actually materialize, so that's a significant overhead. But in the case of `factorial` it does a decent job of multiplying like-sized numbers, keeping intermediate results smaller. |
| 2022-12-24 04:31:44 +0000 | <int-e> | "in the shape of a binary tree" which is balanced, that is, rather than completely left- or right-leaning. |
| 2022-12-24 04:33:21 +0000 | <int-e> | > foldMap Sum [x,1,2,3] |
| 2022-12-24 04:33:22 +0000 | <lambdabot> | Sum {getSum = x + (1 + (2 + (3 + 0)))} |
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| 2022-12-24 05:16:38 +0000 | calco | (~calco@47.200.15.90) |
| 2022-12-24 05:16:53 +0000 | <calco> | hello |
| 2022-12-24 05:17:34 +0000 | <calco> | anybody home |
| 2022-12-24 05:18:07 +0000 | calco | (~calco@47.200.15.90) () |
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| 2022-12-24 05:21:50 +0000 | <calco> | hello? |
| 2022-12-24 05:22:01 +0000 | <calco> | does anybody copy |
| 2022-12-24 05:23:40 +0000 | GrumpyOldGandalf | (~GrumpyOld@47.200.15.90) |
| 2022-12-24 05:25:56 +0000 | wroathe | (~wroathe@user/wroathe) (Quit: Lost terminal) |
| 2022-12-24 05:26:12 +0000 | <pavonia> | Hello |
| 2022-12-24 05:26:25 +0000 | <GrumpyOldGandalf> | Hi |
| 2022-12-24 05:26:27 +0000 | <calco> | how goes? |
| 2022-12-24 05:27:01 +0000 | azimut | (~azimut@gateway/tor-sasl/azimut) |
| 2022-12-24 05:31:10 +0000 | <calco> | I'm looking for some beginner haskell help, if anyone's willing |
| 2022-12-24 05:36:26 +0000 | <pavonia> | Go ahead and ask your question |
| 2022-12-24 05:37:29 +0000 | mbuf | (~Shakthi@49.204.138.163) |
| 2022-12-24 05:38:22 +0000 | <calco> | I'm working on a tic tac toe app for practice, and I want to structure it all using pattern matching and generally improve my functions |
| 2022-12-24 05:39:04 +0000 | <calco> | I have low cardinality data types, and some function outlines, but I could use some pointers for how to improve the program in general |
| 2022-12-24 05:39:16 +0000 | <calco> | should I share the file somehow? |
| 2022-12-24 05:40:16 +0000 | <pavonia> | Yeah, the pastebin at https://paste.tomsmeding.com/ is preferred in this channel |
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| 2022-12-24 06:18:28 +0000 | <Inst_> | int-e i actually asked a production haskeller about foldb |
| 2022-12-24 06:18:53 +0000 | <Inst_> | it matches parallelization algorithms he uses, although he always sets the sparks too small |
| 2022-12-24 06:22:30 +0000 | <int-e> | Hah. When did "MapReduce" stop being a buzzword? Haven't heard it in a while. |
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| 2022-12-24 07:30:50 +0000 | Inst_ | Inst |
| 2022-12-24 07:31:14 +0000 | <Inst> | also, @int-e, do you know anything |
| 2022-12-24 07:31:17 +0000 | <Inst> | about primeswing? |
| 2022-12-24 07:31:23 +0000 | <Inst> | I'm benchmarking Haskell vs Julia |
| 2022-12-24 07:31:38 +0000 | <Inst> | I actually got GHCI to beat Julia in implementing a naive fibonacci function |
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| 2022-12-24 11:32:23 +0000 | cheater_ | cheater |
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| 2022-12-24 11:55:46 +0000 | <Profpatsch> | Is there a newtype instance of UnliftIO that witnesses the correspondence to MonadBaseControl? |
| 2022-12-24 11:55:54 +0000 | <Profpatsch> | MonadBaseControl IO that is |
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| 2022-12-24 15:12:22 +0000 | Sciencentistguy9 | (~sciencent@hacksoc/ordinary-member) |
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| 2022-12-24 15:14:35 +0000 | Sciencentistguy9 | Sciencentistguy |
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| 2022-12-24 15:55:07 +0000 | tf64 | (~tf64@5.42.88.91) |
| 2022-12-24 15:55:07 +0000 | <tf64> | hi |
| 2022-12-24 15:55:08 +0000 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) (Quit: Bye!) |
| 2022-12-24 15:55:20 +0000 | <geekosaur> | hello |
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| 2022-12-24 16:06:38 +0000 | [itchyjunk] | [itchychristmas] |
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| 2022-12-24 16:35:35 +0000 | Bocaneri | Guest4241 |
| 2022-12-24 16:36:03 +0000 | <calco> | aeyo |
| 2022-12-24 16:36:31 +0000 | <calco> | hows it kickin' y'all |
| 2022-12-24 16:37:03 +0000 | <geekosaur> | not sure anyone else is around today 🙂 |
| 2022-12-24 16:38:05 +0000 | Sauvin | (~sauvin@user/Sauvin) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2022-12-24 16:38:14 +0000 | Guest4241 | Sauvin |
| 2022-12-24 16:38:33 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I'm not stupid enough to go out in high winds and temperatures colder than my freezer gets |
| 2022-12-24 16:38:48 +0000 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@2600:1700:38c5:d800:5cf9:c33d:ed9e:f2a3) |
| 2022-12-24 16:40:28 +0000 | <calco> | you know it's bad when florida starts getting freeze warnings |
| 2022-12-24 16:40:41 +0000 | <calco> | might have to put a t-shirt on... |
| 2022-12-24 16:40:50 +0000 | <calco> | >:( |
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| 2022-12-24 18:57:49 +0000 | famubu | (~famubu@user/famubu) |
| 2022-12-24 18:58:21 +0000 | <famubu> | Hi. I was doing `1=2` in ghci and it gave no error. What gives? I obviously am missing something basic. |
| 2022-12-24 18:59:13 +0000 | <geekosaur> | it's just a lazy pattern match, that can never be seen because there's no binding that could be used to force it |
| 2022-12-24 19:00:22 +0000 | <geekosaur> | so it just sits there taking up memory until it gets garbage collected because it's unreachable |
| 2022-12-24 19:00:23 +0000 | <hpc> | the googleable term is "irrefutable pattern" |
| 2022-12-24 19:00:38 +0000 | <hpc> | > let ~(Just x) = Nothing in x |
| 2022-12-24 19:00:39 +0000 | <lambdabot> | *Exception: <interactive>:3:5-23: Non-exhaustive patterns in Just x |
| 2022-12-24 19:00:48 +0000 | <hpc> | ^ what happens when one gets forced |
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| 2022-12-24 19:03:33 +0000 | <famubu> | Oh.. Thanks! |
| 2022-12-24 19:03:49 +0000 | <famubu> | The `~` is to force eval, right? |
| 2022-12-24 19:04:23 +0000 | <geekosaur> | the opposite. `let` bindings, unlike top level beindings, are strict; the ~ is needed to make it lazy |
| 2022-12-24 19:04:35 +0000 | <geekosaur> | ]then attempting to access `x` forces the lazy pattern |
| 2022-12-24 19:04:54 +0000 | <hpc> | a strict pattern match looks like |
| 2022-12-24 19:05:03 +0000 | <hpc> | > let !(Just x) = Nothing in "this" |
| 2022-12-24 19:05:05 +0000 | <lambdabot> | "*Exception: <interactive>:3:5-23: Non-exhaustive patterns in Just x |
| 2022-12-24 19:05:19 +0000 | <hpc> | notice x isn't used, but it still dies |
| 2022-12-24 19:05:44 +0000 | <geekosaur> | > let ~(Just x) = Nothing in "this" -- this, on the other hand, works |
| 2022-12-24 19:05:46 +0000 | <lambdabot> | "this" |
| 2022-12-24 19:06:12 +0000 | <hpc> | > let jx@(Just x) = Just 5 in (x, jx) -- and just for completeness, at-patterns give you the whole thing's name at the same time you match on it |
| 2022-12-24 19:06:13 +0000 | <lambdabot> | (5,Just 5) |
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| 2022-12-24 19:42:13 +0000 | <carbolymer> | I think I'm having a brain fart with lenses, why this does not work: https://c-v.sh/mainstreamcotquean.txt ? |
| 2022-12-24 19:42:55 +0000 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@2600:1700:38c5:d800:5cf9:c33d:ed9e:f2a3) |
| 2022-12-24 19:45:17 +0000 | <carbolymer> | ah yes, ghci couldn't guess the type of `[1]` |
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| 2022-12-24 22:07:20 +0000 | <hololeap> | @hackage lifted-base -- Profpatsch: you might want this? |
| 2022-12-24 22:07:20 +0000 | <lambdabot> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/lifted-base -- Profpatsch: you might want this? |
| 2022-12-24 22:08:49 +0000 | igghibu | (~igghibu@37.120.201.91) (Quit: igghibu) |
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| 2022-12-24 22:10:14 +0000 | <hololeap> | not that it's what you're asking for, but I guessed you're looking for some of the extra stuff in unliftio but for MonadBaseControl |
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| 2022-12-24 22:45:21 +0000 | jmdaemon | (~jmdaemon@user/jmdaemon) |
| 2022-12-24 22:57:14 +0000 | <Profpatsch> | hololeap: hrm yeah, postgresql-simple in my case |
| 2022-12-24 22:57:24 +0000 | <Profpatsch> | I’m really annoyed at this mtl stuff |
| 2022-12-24 22:57:39 +0000 | <Profpatsch> | I feel like it’s one of the super unergonomic parts of Haskell |
| 2022-12-24 23:00:11 +0000 | <hololeap> | the competing libs that do similar things with no compatibility layers seems to be a constant problem with hackage/haskell. it seems like more of a social problem than a technical one, IMO |
| 2022-12-24 23:00:53 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I've never had trouble with mtl, but I do think as soon as you've reached for unliftio you've invited trouble in general |
| 2022-12-24 23:05:58 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I feel like unliftio is trying to be a general solution to a problem that has no general solution, the complexity of MonadBaseControl is proof, and mtl is an exclamation mark on the whole thing |
| 2022-12-24 23:07:32 +0000 | <MelMalik> | = 167 |
| 2022-12-24 23:12:28 +0000 | <jackdk> | I don't think that's right, because unliftio is by design less general than MonadBaseControl |
| 2022-12-24 23:14:13 +0000 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2022-12-24 23:14:37 +0000 | <geekosaur> | it is nevertheless hitting a form of the same problem |
| 2022-12-24 23:15:20 +0000 | <hololeap> | @hackage unlift-stm -- I wrote this not knowing about MonadBaseControl. I may not have written it if I had known |
| 2022-12-24 23:15:20 +0000 | <lambdabot> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/unlift-stm -- I wrote this not knowing about MonadBaseControl. I may not have written it if I had known |
| 2022-12-24 23:19:59 +0000 | poscat | (~poscat@114.245.108.192) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2022-12-24 23:20:59 +0000 | poscat | (~poscat@114.245.108.12) |
| 2022-12-24 23:25:10 +0000 | <hololeap> | given the isomorphisms present in ReaderT and IdentityT, doesn't the existence of unliftio make sense? I never fully understood the other transformers that MonadBaseControl supports |
| 2022-12-24 23:26:29 +0000 | <hololeap> | but the fact is, this should work with monads other than IO so why not generalize it? |
| 2022-12-24 23:27:12 +0000 | <hololeap> | my lib that I just linked to was a lot of copy-and-paste from unliftio and replacing IO with STM |
| 2022-12-24 23:30:55 +0000 | jakalx | (~jakalx@base.jakalx.net) (Error from remote client) |
| 2022-12-24 23:32:23 +0000 | poscat0x04 | (~poscat@2408:8206:4821:ed55:59ff:d2f4:c62a:1acc) |
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| 2022-12-24 23:35:35 +0000 | <hololeap> | ReaderT r (t m) a ~ t (ReaderT r m) a -- and -- ReaderT r m a ~ r -> m a ~ Reader r (m a) |
| 2022-12-24 23:35:44 +0000 | <hololeap> | so this gives a lot of wiggle-room |
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