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2021-07-05 00:00:12 +0200 <geekosaur> Enum and Bounded are less thna ideally defined
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2021-07-05 00:13:38 +0200 <zebrag> For any given lambda-term (say, strongly normalizing), I want an equivalent term, but with only one redex.
2021-07-05 00:14:58 +0200 <zebrag> So far I must have been asking google the wrong questions.
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2021-07-05 00:22:50 +0200 <zebrag> Or there might be a theorem saying that there is no such transformation.
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2021-07-05 00:28:50 +0200 <koz> What constructor in Pat corresponds to (x : xs)-style matches?
2021-07-05 00:29:13 +0200 <koz> Do I seriously gotta go 'ConP ''(:) [..., ....]' or something?
2021-07-05 00:29:49 +0200 <koz> (well, specifically 'ConP ''(:) [VarP xName, VarP xsName]')
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2021-07-05 00:31:26 +0200 <koz> Or would that be InfixP?
2021-07-05 00:33:27 +0200 <glguy> koz, it would work with either ConP or InfixP
2021-07-05 00:33:38 +0200 <koz> I guess InfixP is a bit clearer?
2021-07-05 00:33:53 +0200 <glguy> it'll be nicer when someone looks with -ddump-splices
2021-07-05 00:34:02 +0200 <koz> Which will likely be me in an hour or so.
2021-07-05 00:34:07 +0200 <koz> Thanks!
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2021-07-05 00:56:37 +0200 <dexterfoo> what's the difference between: (Show a => Ord a => a) vs. ((Show a, Ord a) => a) ?
2021-07-05 00:57:47 +0200 <geekosaur> none, unless it's a pattern synonym
2021-07-05 00:58:30 +0200 <geekosaur> for the latter, the one before the first => is the required constraint and the other is the provided constraint
2021-07-05 00:58:34 +0200 <dexterfoo> in all the tutorials and all the code i've seen, i always see the second. i didn't even know the first syntax was possible
2021-07-05 00:58:56 +0200 <geekosaur> it's not supposed to be possible, it's a side effect of how ghc parses constraints
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2021-07-05 01:02:42 +0200 <geekosaur> I think there might even be an issue about it
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2021-07-05 01:11:23 +0200 <dexterfoo> thank you
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2021-07-05 01:49:34 +0200 <qrpnxz> i'm trying to bind the result of an if expr in a do statement, but it keeps parsing as if all subsequent statements in the do where part of the else clause, don't know how to fix
2021-07-05 01:50:19 +0200 <geekosaur> @where paste
2021-07-05 01:50:19 +0200 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2021-07-05 01:50:51 +0200 <geekosaur> sounds as if NondecreasingIndentation might be getting you, but if is an expression and not a statement so this seems weird
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2021-07-05 01:51:46 +0200 <qrpnxz> yeah idk, i'll post the paste in a sec
2021-07-05 01:52:48 +0200 <qrpnxz> ah wtf, as soon as i paste in the terminal for the paste it was obvious, my editor was doing some whitespace fuckery. I fixed it
2021-07-05 01:53:34 +0200 <geekosaur> this is why you configure your editor to expand tabs; they do odd things
2021-07-05 01:55:12 +0200 <qrpnxz> i'm used to using just tabs but haskell is different (which i'm ok with)
2021-07-05 01:55:36 +0200 <geekosaur> it'll also bite you with python if you ever need to work in that
2021-07-05 01:55:59 +0200 <qrpnxz> python i'm not okay with, but at least they don't care spaces vs tabs iirc
2021-07-05 01:56:39 +0200 <geekosaur> you can still get caught out this way if tabs expand differently in a terminal than in the editor
2021-07-05 01:56:49 +0200 <qrpnxz> having fun right now making a filthy stateful slice library hahahaha. ik haskell is about the purity, but i just miss these man
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2021-07-05 03:39:05 +0200 <qrpnxz> is there a de facto type class for values that have a default value?
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2021-07-05 03:40:14 +0200 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/data-default
2021-07-05 03:40:16 +0200 <sm[m]> Data.Default
2021-07-05 03:40:43 +0200 <sm[m]> people don't like it because it makes code less readable
2021-07-05 03:40:49 +0200 <geekosaur> this can however get you into trouble when it works unexpectedly; it can make typechecking somewhat useless
2021-07-05 03:40:59 +0200 <geekosaur> not just less readable
2021-07-05 03:41:29 +0200 <geekosaur> we diagnosed an odd "bug" in xmonad that turned out to be someone using def in a place where we expected a keybinding function
2021-07-05 03:41:41 +0200 <sm[m]> makes code and error messages less readable, weakens type checking, and makes code less IDE-navigable <- ?
2021-07-05 03:41:47 +0200 <geekosaur> and it unexpectedly typechecked while doing something useless
2021-07-05 03:42:05 +0200 <sm[m]> nice example
2021-07-05 03:42:12 +0200 <qrpnxz> epic, thanks. and thanks for the heads up
2021-07-05 03:42:25 +0200 <geekosaur> def -> const def -> const (def, def) -> const (0, 0)
2021-07-05 03:43:01 +0200 <geekosaur> that was fun to track down
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2021-07-05 03:47:56 +0200 <qrpnxz> it's just that i'm trying to implement what happens when i extend a slice. Maybe i should just leave uninitialized values idk
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2021-07-05 03:48:45 +0200 <qrpnxz> and they are boxed so i think it's possible to change the type of only one part of a vector? I need to do more testing
2021-07-05 03:49:33 +0200 <qrpnxz> hmm, or not actually, write won't allow that
2021-07-05 03:50:11 +0200 <qrpnxz> i can just accept a default argument in the make procedure
2021-07-05 03:50:14 +0200 <qrpnxz> might be better
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2021-07-05 05:39:31 +0200 <dsal> There are lots of bad ways to do things that might work for you. There's also implicit parameters.
2021-07-05 05:40:23 +0200 <dsal> `def` is only occasionally more useful than an explicit `defaultThing` function (or `mempty`).
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2021-07-05 05:46:45 +0200 <monochrom> "default value" is so always contextual that the correct default value is always "it depends".
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2021-07-05 05:50:12 +0200 <qrpnxz> what i ended up doing is just nothing lol. That is you make a vector however you want (generate, replicate, new) and then just turn it into a slice and use that, and then whenever you need to you turn it back into a vector to do like forM_ or to get an immutable vector
2021-07-05 05:50:51 +0200 <qrpnxz> so the library just looks like data Slice, slice, slice', toVec, fromVec, len, cap, append, appendF, appendV, copy. That's it
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2021-07-05 05:52:37 +0200 <qrpnxz> I like how it turned out
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2021-07-05 06:02:33 +0200 <dsal> Does it have any standard instances?
2021-07-05 06:02:56 +0200 <dsal> Foldable, Traversable, Monoid, etc...?
2021-07-05 06:04:10 +0200 <dsal> e.g., why would have a `len` instead of `length`? And `append` instead of `<>`?
2021-07-05 06:06:44 +0200 <qrpnxz> no because it is mutable, it is an abstraction over MVector. If i published i would probably change len to length for ecosystem consistency. append is not a concatenation of vectors, it mutably adds an element to the end of the slice.
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2021-07-05 06:07:31 +0200 <qrpnxz> in haskell parlance it would be a "snoc", but i don't like that name because there's construction going on, it's just mutating
2021-07-05 06:07:39 +0200 <qrpnxz> *there's no
2021-07-05 06:09:01 +0200 <qrpnxz> i'm meaning to change it into an abstraction over generic vectors right now
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2021-07-05 06:10:55 +0200 <dsal> There's often mutation in IO, but it's got functor, applicative, monad, monoid, etc... instances
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2021-07-05 06:12:29 +0200 <qrpnxz> thing of Slice as MVector + length, that's it. MVector also doesn't have functor et al.
2021-07-05 06:13:07 +0200 <qrpnxz> main reason probably being that every read happens in a monadic context, so you just can't create the instance
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2021-07-05 06:15:05 +0200 <qrpnxz> *think
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2021-07-05 06:34:04 +0200 <qrpnxz> ok it's generic now, nice
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2021-07-05 07:14:33 +0200 <qrpnxz> actually switching back and forth would probably pretty annoying, i'm just gonna duplicate all the functions, unless there's a way to get ghc to automatically convert it
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2021-07-05 07:50:09 +0200 <qrpnxz> now my type is a Data.Vector.Generic.Mutable.MVector
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2021-07-05 08:25:56 +0200 <kammao> Hello! I'm having quite the trouble with the hakyll site example installation. Any ideas on what causes these erorors? Tried both stack and cabal but still nothing. I put the error messages for stack here : https://paste.tomsmeding.com/tgQhkKy7 and for cabal here: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/5l7K72BI#file-1
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2021-07-05 08:33:52 +0200 <sm[m]> Hi kammao, what example are you following ?
2021-07-05 08:34:36 +0200 <sm[m]> I think it's out of date
2021-07-05 08:34:50 +0200 <kammao> I am following this : https://jaspervdj.be/hakyll/tutorials/01-installation.html#installation
2021-07-05 08:36:49 +0200 <sm[m]> Unfortunately this is not a long term reproducible sort of example. It worked once but it seems hakyll isn't easy to build today
2021-07-05 08:37:15 +0200 <kammao> Stack/ Cabal is up to date. Also tried to put older versions of hakyll/ resolver in the stack.yaml file thinking that could fix the problem but still nothing.
2021-07-05 08:37:17 +0200 <kammao> Oh i see
2021-07-05 08:37:27 +0200 <kammao> Yesod seemed to hard for a beginner
2021-07-05 08:37:48 +0200 <kammao> So i figured I should choose some other web framework?
2021-07-05 08:38:12 +0200 <sm[m]> yes It would probably work irelaticely easily f you specified the right old stackage resolver (the contemporary one when this example was written)
2021-07-05 08:38:53 +0200fendor_(~fendor@178.165.131.8.wireless.dyn.drei.com)
2021-07-05 08:38:59 +0200 <sm[m]> I think if you're interested in hakyll you should check its bug tracker - there may be discussion of this
2021-07-05 08:39:45 +0200 <kammao> Thank you - will do that!
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2021-07-05 08:42:22 +0200 <sm[m]> if not, try: latest hakyll version - what date it was uploaded - what stackage lts version was current then - try that one
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2021-07-05 09:31:21 +0200 <kammao> sm[m] : changed to the latest hakyll version and looked what stackage version was current then- everything works now! thanks a lot :)
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2021-07-05 09:53:02 +0200 <sm[m]> kammao: 👍🏻
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2021-07-05 10:28:57 +0200 <boxscape> Is there an easy way to see whether an UNPACK pragma actually had an effect? I can't seem to actually see a difference in the dumped cmm
2021-07-05 10:33:15 +0200tomsmedingrecalls there may be something in the .hi file for the module, thinks there was ghc --show-iface or something ( boxscape )
2021-07-05 10:33:30 +0200 <boxscape> tomsmeding: ah, I'll take a look at that, thanks
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2021-07-05 10:37:27 +0200 <boxscape> indeed, the .hi file only includes the UNPACK pragma if I compile with -O
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2021-07-05 10:39:03 +0200 <boxscape> oh also if I don't dump the cmm and so am able to actually see warnings GHC produces, it tells me when it encounters an UNPACK pragma it has to ignore
2021-07-05 10:39:29 +0200 <boxscape> turns out you can't unpack unboxed tuples
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2021-07-05 10:40:03 +0200 <boxscape> seems strange
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2021-07-05 10:43:41 +0200 <boxscape> Ah, never mind, it makes sense - it's the same reason why you can unpack Word8 fields but not Word8# fields
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2021-07-05 10:46:42 +0200 <fendor> can I generate a hoogle index from a local documentation.tar.gz?
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2021-07-05 10:59:27 +0200 <tomsmeding> boxscape: aren't unboxed tuples kind of already unpacked?
2021-07-05 10:59:55 +0200 <boxscape> tomsmeding: right, I imagine using the UNPACK pragma with regular tuples results in unboxed tuples
2021-07-05 11:00:06 +0200 <tomsmeding> that's what I would imagine, but I haven't tried it
2021-07-05 11:01:06 +0200 <boxscape> (I only tried unpacking () just now which results in a constructor that's completely missing that argument in cmm, and I think (# #) doesn't have a runtime representation, so that makes sense)
2021-07-05 11:01:56 +0200 <tomsmeding> nice!
2021-07-05 11:03:11 +0200cfricke(~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Quit: WeeChat 3.2)
2021-07-05 11:03:16 +0200tomsmeding. o O ( so (# #) _really_ has only one inhabitant, unlike () which really has two (() and _|_) )
2021-07-05 11:04:14 +0200cfricke(~cfricke@user/cfricke)
2021-07-05 11:04:15 +0200 <Rembane> The emptiest of tuples.
2021-07-05 11:05:02 +0200 <int-e> tomsmeding: that's only true if the function returning (# #) terminates
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2021-07-05 11:05:40 +0200 <boxscape> tomsmeding: you can even make completely uninhabited types now with -XUnliftedDatatypes (Not sure if it's in a released version yet)
2021-07-05 11:06:20 +0200 <tomsmeding> int-e: hm, true
2021-07-05 11:06:36 +0200 <boxscape> int-e: I might be wrong but it's my impression that you can then say that the bottom you're producing is not of type (# #), but of the type of the expression in which you're using that function
2021-07-05 11:07:12 +0200 <boxscape> since it has to be strict
2021-07-05 11:07:39 +0200 <boxscape> whereas if it were () for example you could wrap that bottom up in the call-site without the wrapping expression evaluating to bottom
2021-07-05 11:07:45 +0200 <boxscape> (this might not be the best way to phrase it)
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2021-07-05 11:08:59 +0200 <int-e> boxscape: consider f :: () -> (# #); f () = f ()
2021-07-05 11:09:29 +0200michalz(~michalz@185.246.204.126)
2021-07-05 11:09:50 +0200 <int-e> (AIUI, the argument is necessary because unboxed tuples only exist as return types, not as value types.)
2021-07-05 11:10:22 +0200 <nshepperd> if someone passes you a (# #), it can't be bottom
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2021-07-05 11:12:07 +0200 <int-e> Oh, I can write g :: (# #) -> (); g _ = () nowadays. Fine.
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2021-07-05 11:15:24 +0200 <int-e> nshepperd: still, https://paste.tomsmeding.com/q37OPqgE "manifests" a value x :: (# #) that is semantically bottom. You can weasel your way out through more finely grained operational semantics, of course.
2021-07-05 11:15:27 +0200viole(~viole@user/viole)
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2021-07-05 11:17:29 +0200 <nshepperd> and i fully intend to weasel my way out
2021-07-05 11:17:47 +0200Xe(~cadey@tailscale/xe) (Quit: WeeChat 3.1)
2021-07-05 11:17:52 +0200 <int-e> typical compiler writer attitude :P
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2021-07-05 11:19:20 +0200 <nshepperd> imo t diverges in the process of attempting to manifest x
2021-07-05 11:19:22 +0200Erutuon(~Erutuon@user/erutuon) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2021-07-05 11:20:10 +0200 <int-e> Anecdote: Once upon a time, I wanted to see if C compilers optimized tail recursion. So I wrote code like int f(int x) { return f(x); } int main() { printf("%d\n", f(42)); }... and icc at the time produced a terminating program (no stack overflow, it printed 0, I think)
2021-07-05 11:21:21 +0200 <int-e> Or no, it must have been a void function. Anyway, I /think/ the compiler saw a function with no side effects, and decided to elide the call completely.
2021-07-05 11:21:30 +0200 <nshepperd> certainly control flow never reaches g
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2021-07-05 11:22:19 +0200 <int-e> nshepperd: as long as we agree that it's not captured in the usual denotational semantics I'm happy
2021-07-05 11:22:22 +0200samhh(~samhh@90.252.112.94)
2021-07-05 11:23:00 +0200 <nshepperd> icc revealed the forbidden integer at the end of time
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2021-07-05 11:23:33 +0200 <int-e> Somehow, later versions of icc didn't do that.
2021-07-05 11:23:51 +0200Obo(~roberto@89.37.95.174)
2021-07-05 11:25:04 +0200 <int-e> I forgot when it was too, definitely more than 10 years ago.
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2021-07-05 11:27:32 +0200 <nshepperd> considering bottom to be an inhabitant of (# #) does seem like the most parsimonious way to describe the difference between undefined, const (# #), and your f
2021-07-05 11:27:51 +0200 <nshepperd> even though you can never actually 'get' a bottom
2021-07-05 11:28:19 +0200 <boxscape> hm would it be fair to say that `x` in the above paste is an expression without a value?
2021-07-05 11:28:56 +0200 <boxscape> (If we don't go down that parsimonious route)
2021-07-05 11:32:05 +0200 <int-e> Or a value without representation? Does it still have to pay taxes?
2021-07-05 11:32:22 +0200 <boxscape> hmm
2021-07-05 11:32:47 +0200 <boxscape> well, even the value (# #) :: (# #) doesn't have a runtime representation
2021-07-05 11:33:12 +0200 <int-e> It does, but it's empty ;)
2021-07-05 11:33:58 +0200viole(~viole@user/viole) (WeeChat 2.9)
2021-07-05 11:34:00 +0200 <boxscape> int-e: I've been going with the terminology the docs use for Proxy#, where they say "A Proxy# is not only unboxed, it also has a polymorphic kind, and has no runtime representation, being totally free. "
2021-07-05 11:34:53 +0200__monty__(~toonn@user/toonn)
2021-07-05 11:35:01 +0200 <boxscape> (and Proxy# has the same kind as (# #))
2021-07-05 11:35:23 +0200 <boxscape> (...modulo the parameter)
2021-07-05 11:35:37 +0200 <int-e> Oh, there's this more sensible option: it's a non-value without representation.
2021-07-05 11:35:51 +0200 <boxscape> mhm
2021-07-05 11:35:57 +0200PsixisP(~psixisp@user/psixisp) (Quit: WeeChat 3.2)
2021-07-05 11:36:05 +0200 <int-e> lazy evaluation deals with a lot of non-values that do have a representation, as thunks.
2021-07-05 11:36:21 +0200 <boxscape> fair point
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2021-07-05 11:38:34 +0200 <nshepperd> maybe it's the function arrow -> that should have the special denotational treatment for (# #)
2021-07-05 11:38:58 +0200 <nshepperd> ghc docs call (# #) unlifted, and they must be right
2021-07-05 11:39:04 +0200dragestil(~quassel@user/dragestil)
2021-07-05 11:40:21 +0200 <int-e> "they must be right" is borderline religious
2021-07-05 11:40:33 +0200 <boxscape> it doesn't have kind `TYPE (BoxedRep Lifted), which makes it unlifted
2021-07-05 11:41:11 +0200 <boxscape> but it does sound borderline religious :)
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2021-07-05 11:47:24 +0200 <nshepperd> () ->
2021-07-05 11:48:02 +0200 <nshepperd> () -> (# #) may have three values, but data Foo = Foo (# #) has two, not three
2021-07-05 11:48:55 +0200 <int-e> nshepperd: Uhm... surely I can take my x and write "Foo x"
2021-07-05 11:49:21 +0200 <int-e> Since the data constructor Foo isn't strict.
2021-07-05 11:51:19 +0200 <nshepperd> that will diverge just as instantly as doing anything else with x
2021-07-05 11:51:27 +0200 <int-e> Ah this is confusing. I can write it, but it'll be indistinguishable from _|_
2021-07-05 11:52:26 +0200 <nshepperd> let x = f () in Foo x is bottom
2021-07-05 11:52:32 +0200 <int-e> OKay, I agree that data Foo = Foo (# #) isn't different from data Foo = Foo.
2021-07-05 11:52:53 +0200 <int-e> (in terms of which values it has)
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2021-07-05 11:53:03 +0200 <int-e> (or rather, how many of them)
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2021-07-05 11:56:17 +0200 <int-e> Maybe being allowed to write let x = () is bad, it should really be let !x = f () when f returns an unboxed tuple.
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2021-07-05 11:57:04 +0200 <nshepperd> if that would apply for all unlifted types it would look a bit unwieldy
2021-07-05 11:58:05 +0200 <int-e> but it's more honest about the semantics
2021-07-05 11:58:54 +0200merijn(~merijn@83-160-49-249.ip.xs4all.nl)
2021-07-05 11:59:05 +0200 <int-e> I mean, no, I'm not proposing to change this in ghc. I'm just trying to pinpoint my confusion and see how it could be reduced.
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2021-07-05 12:00:35 +0200 <boxscape> wouldn't `Foo (# #)` be more similar to a function `(# #) -> ()` than to `() -> (# #)`? (Though I think both function types have three values)
2021-07-05 12:00:36 +0200 <int-e> It wouldn't even help much anyway... instead of having a let binding, I could write Foo (f ()) and that would have the same problem.
2021-07-05 12:00:55 +0200 <int-e> boxscape: Yes.
2021-07-05 12:01:20 +0200hseg(~gesh@185.120.126.10)
2021-07-05 12:01:59 +0200 <int-e> boxscape: Okay, but Foo is a data constructor; you know which of the three values you're dealing with.
2021-07-05 12:02:28 +0200 <hseg> Just saw a new-to-me error, need guidance:
2021-07-05 12:02:49 +0200 <hseg> am derivingVia a class with associated types
2021-07-05 12:02:55 +0200 <hseg> and got "Reduction stack overflow"?
2021-07-05 12:03:10 +0200 <int-e> boxscape: So... actually... no. We have Foo :: (# #) -> Foo, where Foo is isomorphic to ().
2021-07-05 12:03:12 +0200 <hseg> (wrapping around HashMap, am deriving SetContainer)
2021-07-05 12:03:17 +0200 <hseg> (from mono-traversable)
2021-07-05 12:03:31 +0200 <boxscape> hseg: sounds like an infinite loop at the type level?
2021-07-05 12:03:40 +0200 <hseg> seems so
2021-07-05 12:03:55 +0200 <hseg> though am puzzled at why it would be there
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2021-07-05 12:04:38 +0200 <boxscape> can you share code?
2021-07-05 12:04:39 +0200 <int-e> boxscape: What do you mean by `Foo (# #)`, is it a value or the declaration of the constructor as part of the datatype defintion?
2021-07-05 12:05:00 +0200 <boxscape> int-e: I suppose I really meant the type `Foo`
2021-07-05 12:05:18 +0200Codaraxis(~Codaraxis@user/codaraxis)
2021-07-05 12:05:33 +0200 <hseg> it's basically newtype CM k v = CM (HashMap k v) deriving SetContainer via (HashMap k v)
2021-07-05 12:05:57 +0200 <hseg> can try bisecting a mwe if that doesn't repro for you
2021-07-05 12:06:45 +0200 <hseg> checking the SetContainer (HashMap k v) instance I see no reason for looping either
2021-07-05 12:07:03 +0200 <int-e> what is SetContainer?
2021-07-05 12:07:05 +0200 <hseg> like, i'd expect the derived instance to just copy the synonym
2021-07-05 12:07:09 +0200 <hseg> from mono-traversable
2021-07-05 12:07:15 +0200 <hseg> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/mono-traversable-1.0.15.1/docs/Data-Containers.html
2021-07-05 12:08:39 +0200 <hseg> oh wait
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2021-07-05 12:09:52 +0200 <hseg> ffs that was the most obtuse way of saying "newtype F ... = F (G ...) deriving C via (F ...)" loops, you want to replace it with G
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2021-07-05 12:10:38 +0200 <boxscape> Yeah I had wondered at some point whether maybe there should be a warning/error if you try to derive an instance of a type via itself
2021-07-05 12:10:52 +0200 <boxscape> though I can't quite see how it arises from the code you shared
2021-07-05 12:11:08 +0200 <hseg> (missed this because I was mentally translating type synonyms)
2021-07-05 12:11:24 +0200 <hseg> had defined type Map = CM, type Map' = HashMap
2021-07-05 12:11:24 +0200 <boxscape> makes sense
2021-07-05 12:11:29 +0200 <boxscape> ah
2021-07-05 12:11:44 +0200 <hseg> so I could convenienly replace underlying maps
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2021-07-05 12:12:31 +0200 <int-e> How does DerivingVia deal with associated type families? Does it fill those in first? Because that might well explain why you get *that* particular error.
2021-07-05 12:12:44 +0200 <int-e> type ContainerKey set
2021-07-05 12:12:59 +0200 <int-e> because you'll get a recursive definition for that one
2021-07-05 12:15:04 +0200 <hseg> seems it just sets type T Age = T Int
2021-07-05 12:15:05 +0200 <hseg> https://ghc-proposals.readthedocs.io/en/latest/proposals/0120-deriving-via.html
2021-07-05 12:15:13 +0200 <hseg> though this isn't specified in manual
2021-07-05 12:15:54 +0200 <hseg> is specified in the docs for GND though
2021-07-05 12:16:07 +0200 <hseg> 6.6.5.3 in latest manual
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2021-07-05 12:35:02 +0200 <int-e> hseg: you may have been lucky to get a compile time error: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/zaKD2gJs
2021-07-05 12:36:19 +0200 <hseg> not lucky -- type-level may not loop, but int = coerce int is fine at term level
2021-07-05 12:36:30 +0200 <hseg> just like int = int is fine
2021-07-05 12:36:45 +0200 <int-e> But yeah for that toy example it says it's simplifying Value Age, so evidently it has defined type instance Value Age = Value Age at that point.
2021-07-05 12:37:00 +0200 <int-e> hseg: Lucky that there is an associated type, I mean.
2021-07-05 12:37:05 +0200 <hseg> yup
2021-07-05 12:40:02 +0200 <int-e> And how did I end up indenting by three spaces... when the editor defaults to 4.
2021-07-05 12:40:16 +0200 <Rembane> Taxes!
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2021-07-05 12:50:24 +0200 <hseg> int-e: cited https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/19465
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2021-07-05 12:58:32 +0200 <haskl> I love Haskell. It's such a fun language to work in.
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2021-07-05 13:00:53 +0200 <zzz> so I have some data T = T x y ...
2021-07-05 13:01:33 +0200 <hseg> ok, so now I'm stuck with the fact that SetContainer s is underiveable since unions :: (MonoFoldable m, Element m ~ s) => m -> s
2021-07-05 13:02:34 +0200laguneucl(~Pitsikoko@2a02:587:dc0b:0:d8f7:cdfe:4658:bec4)
2021-07-05 13:02:55 +0200 <hseg> which would need to coerce m -> s to m -> s' (which is OK) and (Element m ~ s) to (Element m ~ s') (which is not)
2021-07-05 13:02:59 +0200 <int-e> hah, ouch.
2021-07-05 13:03:21 +0200 <hseg> though I wonder why they require MonoFoldable there
2021-07-05 13:03:42 +0200 <zzz> if i have some `data T = T x y ...` and `f x y` is a useful computation I use in many places, is there any way to avoid calculating it repeatedly aside from storing it as `data T = T x y xy ...` ?`
2021-07-05 13:03:50 +0200 <hseg> could just Foldable f => f s -> s
2021-07-05 13:04:16 +0200 <hseg> and set ounions :: (MonoFoldable f, Element f ~ s) => f -> s
2021-07-05 13:05:22 +0200merijn(~merijn@83-160-49-249.ip.xs4all.nl)
2021-07-05 13:07:24 +0200 <haskl> why doesn't the ghc options for static compilation not actually work well, again?
2021-07-05 13:07:28 +0200 <int-e> hseg: It's thematic, isn't it. And it's potentially useful; for example, you could implement Word16-indexed sets of Word16 entries as a single Word32-set.
2021-07-05 13:08:19 +0200 <hseg> yup. or you might want to define a monoid on a map other than union
2021-07-05 13:08:26 +0200 <hseg> e.g. a convolution product
2021-07-05 13:08:44 +0200 <hseg> and then need to generalize everything
2021-07-05 13:08:45 +0200 <int-e> hseg: But it's really bad that it interferes with GND like that.
2021-07-05 13:08:53 +0200 <haskl> like why doesn't the flags for ghc-options, cc-options, and ld-options, and extra-lib-dirs work well?
2021-07-05 13:09:03 +0200 <hseg> well, am using deriving via
2021-07-05 13:09:18 +0200 <int-e> hseg: that's the same underlying mechanism
2021-07-05 13:09:35 +0200 <hseg> because I use it elsewhere and am too lazy to spell out GND *w*
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2021-07-05 13:10:12 +0200 <int-e> "GND" is shorter than "deriving via"
2021-07-05 13:10:38 +0200 <hseg> GHC doesn't accept {-# LANGUAGE GND #-} though?
2021-07-05 13:10:50 +0200 <hseg> (that's the level of my laziness)
2021-07-05 13:11:05 +0200 <int-e> I'm not writing code on IRC :P
2021-07-05 13:11:14 +0200 <hseg> :-)
2021-07-05 13:11:42 +0200 <int-e> Really, I wrote "GND" here because of laziness. Of course it backfired since this is the third message I'm writing *about* that choice :P
2021-07-05 13:11:52 +0200 <hseg> :P
2021-07-05 13:12:25 +0200 <hseg> should probably just add language extensions to my tags file to be able to autocomplete them
2021-07-05 13:12:34 +0200 <hseg> eliminating my excuses
2021-07-05 13:12:40 +0200 <Hecate> I found that there are situations where deriving via will warn you when the underlying representation changes for the worst, whereas deriving newtype will just happily derive it
2021-07-05 13:12:48 +0200 <Hecate> so I'm just using deriving via now
2021-07-05 13:12:49 +0200 <hseg> oh?
2021-07-05 13:13:53 +0200 <Hecate> hseg: https://gist.github.com/kozross/961b0b84cce9d94e31a4ba60cc0109c9
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2021-07-05 13:16:10 +0200 <haskl> has anyone ever released software for debian before? or manage software releases? i have been doing static binaries because the deployment and packaging is way easier to manage, but apparently that's a really bad practice. i'm not sure how to make reliable software with dependencies when it's all dynamically linked. can i include some of the dynamically linked files too which can be replaced by the user's dependencies? how does that work. i'm new to the
2021-07-05 13:16:10 +0200 <haskl> concept of compiling, really.
2021-07-05 13:16:25 +0200 <int-e> Hecate: so you want an explicit popup equivalent saying "do you really want to change the representation?!"
2021-07-05 13:16:28 +0200 <int-e> Hecate: fair enough
2021-07-05 13:17:02 +0200 <hseg> trying to understand the code, don't see the problem
2021-07-05 13:18:06 +0200 <hseg> ... wait, how is it even syntactically correct?
2021-07-05 13:18:07 +0200 <int-e> (I'd actually be more worried about silently chaning from GND to stock derivations)
2021-07-05 13:18:19 +0200 <hseg> Foo and Bar share constructors?
2021-07-05 13:18:39 +0200 <int-e> oh, hah
2021-07-05 13:19:11 +0200 <hseg> so mod s/Foo/Bar on that RHS...
2021-07-05 13:19:45 +0200 <hseg> so we have Foo :: Type -> Type sending \(a :: Type) -> Maybe (Last a)
2021-07-05 13:19:46 +0200lep(~lep@94.31.86.183) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2021-07-05 13:19:51 +0200 <int-e> (I didn't notice. But the compiler would complain.)
2021-07-05 13:20:22 +0200 <hseg> and Bar :: Maybe (First Type) -> Type sending \(a :: Maybe (First Type)) -> Maybe (First a) ?
2021-07-05 13:21:46 +0200 <hseg> ... still don't see how derivingvia is better here?
2021-07-05 13:22:35 +0200 <hseg> unless Hecate, you mean that the redundancy of newtype N = N T deriving C via T makes GHC complain if you change one of the T's without the other?
2021-07-05 13:22:54 +0200 <int-e> hseg: AIUI, Hecate wants to force themselves to think about the instances when they change the type's representation.
2021-07-05 13:22:55 +0200 <hseg> and that's better than GND's silent acceptance of the new representation?
2021-07-05 13:23:14 +0200 <int-e> And if deriving via helps with that (and I see how it could)... just go for it...
2021-07-05 13:23:25 +0200 <int-e> I've shelved it under "idiosyncratic" :-P
2021-07-05 13:23:33 +0200 <hseg> :P
2021-07-05 13:23:56 +0200lep(~lep@94.31.86.183)
2021-07-05 13:24:36 +0200 <hseg> I use deriving via over stock deriving bc except in a couple of cases, it allows me not to think too much
2021-07-05 13:24:40 +0200 <Hecate> yes the pop-up would be good actually int-e :)
2021-07-05 13:25:04 +0200 <Hecate> hseg: ah, that's funny I usually don't replace stock by via
2021-07-05 13:25:05 +0200 <hseg> and combine the stock-derivable classes with the rest in the deriving clause
2021-07-05 13:25:31 +0200 <hseg> the only case that really needs stock instead of via is Show/Read
2021-07-05 13:25:46 +0200 <hseg> Eq, Ord, ... work perfectly with via
2021-07-05 13:26:06 +0200 <hseg> and if you don
2021-07-05 13:26:21 +0200 <hseg> 't care about the newtype wrapper missing, Show/Read also works
2021-07-05 13:26:36 +0200 <haskl> how do haskell releases work if i wanna make a package for debian, for example?
2021-07-05 13:26:48 +0200 <haskl> but i don't think it'd be appropriate for hackage or whatever
2021-07-05 13:27:37 +0200 <haskl> should i just be including the source and telling the debian package to compile it? or... dynamically linked binaries... and... something?
2021-07-05 13:28:37 +0200 <__monty__> haskl: Whether or not to link dynamically is a topic with divided opinions, so I wouldn't call static linking "bad practice" outright. Haskell doesn't really benefit from the advantages of dynamic linking anyway, with some exceptions like glibc.
2021-07-05 13:28:39 +0200 <int-e> I'm really wondering about the premise... why would it be appropriate for Debian but not for hackage?
2021-07-05 13:29:39 +0200 <__monty__> End-user applications may not get a ton of value out of being on hackage. I'd say it's a choice.
2021-07-05 13:29:45 +0200 <hseg> the only real benefit I've heard for dynamic linking that applies to haskell is the "patch once to fix vulnerability" one
2021-07-05 13:30:17 +0200leptest
2021-07-05 13:30:34 +0200 <__monty__> Does that apply though? Don't haskell libraries still have to be built for each dependent because of all the inlining GHC does?
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2021-07-05 13:30:46 +0200 <hseg> which while true, is asking for a large cost in the good case to avoid (what intuitively seem to me to be) small costs in the bad cases
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2021-07-05 13:31:01 +0200 <hseg> __monty__: not if libraries are built statically
2021-07-05 13:32:04 +0200 <__monty__> Wait, if libraries are built statically they don't have to be rebuilt for each dependent? But you said that's the one advantage dynamic linking has for haskell?
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2021-07-05 13:32:19 +0200 <hseg> oops s/static/dynamic
2021-07-05 13:32:25 +0200 <hseg> brain fart, sorry
2021-07-05 13:32:36 +0200 <int-e> hseg: Except that there's cross-package inlining by default in Haskell... also ABIs tend to change when recompiling. (Though work on stable ABIs exists... I should look at that in more detail some day.)
2021-07-05 13:32:52 +0200 <hseg> even when building dynamically?
2021-07-05 13:33:26 +0200 <int-e> when doing w worker/wrapper split, the worker is exposed in the ABI.
2021-07-05 13:33:37 +0200 <int-e> changing the code may result in different splits
2021-07-05 13:34:14 +0200 <__monty__> hseg: I think so. Isn't that why the Arch Haskell situation is so bad? They insist on dynamic linking but it has almost no benefit whatsoever and the GHC they provide still links statically by default?
2021-07-05 13:34:22 +0200 <int-e> So actually the "A" in "ABI" is *not* applicable.
2021-07-05 13:34:36 +0200 <hseg> ah... you mean that the patched lib would have a different ABI, which means you'd need to recompile dependents anyway?
2021-07-05 13:35:24 +0200 <int-e> hseg: That can easily happen, yes. And broken code may be inlined in the application (or another library).
2021-07-05 13:36:44 +0200 <hseg> ah, so a) can't hotpatch dlls and b) bad dlls can infect dependent apps by inlining, so can't only fix dll?
2021-07-05 13:36:53 +0200 <int-e> Probably the main benefit of shared libraries is a much faster ghci. Executables get smaller, but disk space is so cheap... it hardly matters.
2021-07-05 13:37:13 +0200 <hseg> yeah, in that case I can see why ghc goes for static
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2021-07-05 13:38:47 +0200 <haskl> int-e, i was told if i'm just making an end-user application, like a command line tool (say a static site builder), to not release it on hackage or the like
2021-07-05 13:39:30 +0200 <haskl> hseg, yes i heard the security one and also i heard that distro maintainers hat eyou for doign static linking frmo the musl people
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2021-07-05 13:42:05 +0200 <__monty__> haskl: I doubt they care about the haskell dependencies though. Since dynamic linking doesn't buy you anything there. GlibC is dynamically linked by default.
2021-07-05 13:42:17 +0200 <__monty__> And I think libgmp as well, not sure though.
2021-07-05 13:43:13 +0200 <hseg> haskl: oh? what's this from musl?
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2021-07-05 13:45:56 +0200 <haskl> well i'm building static binaries with alpine and depends from apk or whatever its package manager is called
2021-07-05 13:46:03 +0200 <haskl> here's what i wrote to manage releases:
2021-07-05 13:46:21 +0200 <haskl> https://github.com/hyperrealgopher/burrow/blob/master/.github/workflows/release.yml
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2021-07-05 14:30:41 +0200 <qrpnxz> Expected: ST s0 [Token] -> [Token]
2021-07-05 14:30:41 +0200 <qrpnxz> Actual: (forall s. ST s [Token]) -> [Token]
2021-07-05 14:30:41 +0200 <qrpnxz> 😐️
2021-07-05 14:31:56 +0200 <boxscape> the requirement for that forall is essentially the entire idea behind ST
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2021-07-05 14:33:41 +0200 <hseg> you can think of the forall s. there as an implicit type parameter ghc fills in for you
2021-07-05 14:34:08 +0200 <hseg> so it's like asking why ST s [Token] and (Proxy s -> ST s [Token]) don't unify
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2021-07-05 14:39:39 +0200 <qrpnxz> i'm just doing some vector ops and then sending it to runST, not really sure where the hold up is
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2021-07-05 15:01:21 +0200 <pavonia> Is there a way to lift a mutable (unboxed) vector from IO context to ST context without copying it?
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2021-07-05 15:12:23 +0200 <Taneb> I don't believe so
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2021-07-05 15:18:36 +0200 <qrpnxz> (but you can go the other way around
2021-07-05 15:18:39 +0200 <qrpnxz> )
2021-07-05 15:19:04 +0200 <qrpnxz> ugh, i can't figure out why this runST won't work
2021-07-05 15:19:57 +0200 <pavonia> Hhm okay
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2021-07-05 15:24:45 +0200 <Taneb> pavonia: an IOVector can be shared which breaks assumptions that ST makes (that no other thread is modifying it)
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2021-07-05 16:18:17 +0200 <tomsmeding> qrpnxz: hard to say without seeing some code :)
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2021-07-05 16:45:35 +0200 <boxscape> Is it possible to intercept ghc at the cmm stage, edit the cmm, and then continue?
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2021-07-05 16:48:22 +0200 <boxscape> alternatively I'd also take the asm stage
2021-07-05 16:48:40 +0200slowButPresent(~slowButPr@user/slowbutpresent)
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2021-07-05 16:49:56 +0200 <boxscape> And I only need to produce an executable, no need for it to interact with other modules or anything
2021-07-05 16:50:49 +0200 <[exa]> boxscape: edit as in "edit by hand" ?
2021-07-05 16:51:02 +0200 <boxscape> yes
2021-07-05 16:51:21 +0200 <[exa]> there's a system of plugins that can do that programatically for sure, in the ugliest case you might just spawn the editor and wait until it closes
2021-07-05 16:51:39 +0200 <qrpnxz> ok so i did more testing and ghc has no problem with `\n -> runST $ (V.unsafeFreeze =<< MV.new n)`, but then you do `runST <<< (V.unsafeFreeze =<<) <<< MV.new` and it craps itself (???)
2021-07-05 16:51:40 +0200 <boxscape> hm, okay
2021-07-05 16:52:06 +0200 <[exa]> not sure if the plugins are there for cmm though, as far as I recall they were meant to manipulate Core
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2021-07-05 16:52:20 +0200 <boxscape> I see
2021-07-05 16:53:17 +0200 <geekosaur> qrpnxz, $ gets handled specially
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2021-07-05 16:53:26 +0200 <qrpnxz> :/
2021-07-05 16:53:45 +0200 <qrpnxz> rip in piece, me
2021-07-05 16:53:50 +0200 <boxscape> which version of ghc are you using qrpnxz ?
2021-07-05 16:53:55 +0200 <qrpnxz> 9 something
2021-07-05 16:54:10 +0200 <boxscape> $ stops being handled specially in 9 something
2021-07-05 16:54:14 +0200 <boxscape> I'm not sure which one though
2021-07-05 16:54:25 +0200 <geekosaur> 9.2's when quick look lands iirc
2021-07-05 16:54:31 +0200 <boxscape> ah
2021-07-05 16:54:35 +0200 <qrpnxz> 9.0.1
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2021-07-05 16:54:41 +0200 <qrpnxz> is my ver
2021-07-05 16:55:01 +0200 <qrpnxz> hm, i'll try to update ig
2021-07-05 16:55:06 +0200 <qrpnxz> i thought i was on latest
2021-07-05 16:55:13 +0200 <boxscape> I don't think 9.2 has been released yet
2021-07-05 16:55:16 +0200 <geekosaur> you're on the latest released version
2021-07-05 16:55:20 +0200 <qrpnxz> rip
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2021-07-05 16:55:25 +0200 <qrpnxz> alright thanks
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2021-07-05 16:55:42 +0200 <qrpnxz> i spent way to long on this 😭️
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2021-07-05 16:58:09 +0200 <boxscape> Oh I just realized
2021-07-05 16:58:17 +0200 <boxscape> I can just disassemble the executable and edit that
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2021-07-05 16:58:40 +0200 <boxscape> might be harder but we'll see :^)
2021-07-05 16:59:57 +0200 <qrpnxz> lol
2021-07-05 17:02:51 +0200 <boxscape> (or rather, disassemble the .o file)
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2021-07-05 17:42:33 +0200 <adamse> boxscape: with a keep tmp files flag it will keep the asm files around, you can probably edit that and pass it back to ghc
2021-07-05 17:42:55 +0200 <boxscape> adamse: Ah, I'll try that, thanks
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2021-07-05 17:46:57 +0200 <boxscape> Hm -keep-tmp-files by itself doesn't seem to actually keep the asm file, but there's a -keep-llvm-files, I can try using the llvm backend and editing that
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2021-07-05 17:48:43 +0200 <boxscape> and that works like a charm, thanks adamse
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2021-07-05 18:01:20 +0200 <boxscape> Ah, -S will keep the assembly file
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2021-07-05 18:03:22 +0200 <adamse> boxscape: i found it with just -keep-… in /tmp. -v helped pointing the way
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2021-07-05 18:03:52 +0200 <boxscape> adamse: ooh, I didn't realize it would be in /tmp. Thanks
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2021-07-05 20:48:56 +0200 <Guest7629> does haskell have private functions as such?
2021-07-05 20:49:13 +0200 <Guest7629> how do i log in as my original nickname on this server aswell btw?
2021-07-05 20:49:52 +0200 <geekosaur> you can use let or where to define local names, or just not export names in the module export list
2021-07-05 20:49:54 +0200wroathe(~wroathe@c-68-54-25-135.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
2021-07-05 20:50:15 +0200 <geekosaur> as for your nickname, if it's available you can register it with nickserv
2021-07-05 20:50:28 +0200 <geekosaur> /msg nickserv help register
2021-07-05 20:50:35 +0200 <Guest7629> how do i retrieve my original nickname?
2021-07-05 20:51:04 +0200 <geekosaur> if someone else is using it, yoou probably can't. but ask in #libera
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2021-07-05 20:53:21 +0200Guest7629chris-the-slurpe
2021-07-05 20:53:28 +0200 <ixlun> Why is Data.Vector.Unboxed.Cons O(n)? Is it because it makes a copy of the whole vector?
2021-07-05 20:53:31 +0200tzh(~tzh@c-24-21-73-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
2021-07-05 20:53:36 +0200 <chris-the-slurpe> thx geekosaur
2021-07-05 20:54:06 +0200 <chris-the-slurpe> when you say module export list, do you mean exposed modules in cabal project?
2021-07-05 20:54:07 +0200waleee(~waleee@2001:9b0:216:8200:d457:9189:7843:1dbd) (Quit: WeeChat 3.2)
2021-07-05 20:54:13 +0200 <geekosaur> no
2021-07-05 20:54:25 +0200 <geekosaur> module NameHere (export list here) where
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2021-07-05 20:54:46 +0200 <geekosaur> if you oomit the export list it exports everything
2021-07-05 20:54:56 +0200 <chris-the-slurpe> i see, gotcha' makes sense thx
2021-07-05 20:55:11 +0200 <chris-the-slurpe> so that's how you simulate private functions then, or don't expose them
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2021-07-05 20:55:23 +0200merijn(~merijn@83-160-49-249.ip.xs4all.nl)
2021-07-05 20:55:27 +0200 <chris-the-slurpe> simular to js export, thx
2021-07-05 20:55:45 +0200 <chris-the-slurpe> had anyone ever used facebook haxl lib?
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2021-07-05 21:20:16 +0200 <monochrom> ixlun: Yes.
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2021-07-05 21:45:47 +0200 <dsal> chris-the-slurpa: "simulate private functions" is a weird way to say something. It's not simulating anything. Symbols may be exported for reuse in other modules, or stuck in a let or where clause and available in multiple places in a single function, or even unnamed and not reusable.
2021-07-05 21:46:01 +0200 <dsal> Depending on your goals, there are lots of ways to make functionality unavailable.
2021-07-05 21:46:36 +0200w-spc-gir(~w-spc-gir@2600:380:457b:6f3b:fdcb:bc71:d549:b937)
2021-07-05 21:46:39 +0200 <c_wraith> in other words: you don't need a "private" keyword to make a symbol not usable outside of a particular context
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2021-07-05 21:47:38 +0200 <maerwald> that would be a neat GHC extension though
2021-07-05 21:47:54 +0200 <maerwald> I'd prefer it over explicit export lists
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2021-07-05 21:49:08 +0200 <chris-the-slurpa> dsal: ye thanks
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2021-07-05 22:12:24 +0200 <hseg> re the fact that SetContainer isn't derivable, just noticed that the default implementation of unions typechecks
2021-07-05 22:12:34 +0200Codaraxis(~Codaraxis@user/codaraxis) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2021-07-05 22:12:46 +0200 <hseg> so in fact the problem is that DerivingVia tries to coerce *everything*
2021-07-05 22:12:55 +0200 <hseg> even when not coercing would've worked
2021-07-05 22:13:39 +0200 <hseg> (reminder: the problem with SetContainer (from mono-traversable) is that unions :: (MonoFoldable m, Element m ~ s) => m -> s
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2021-07-05 22:14:21 +0200 <hseg> and Coercible s s', while it can take care of (m -> s ~ m -> s'), cannot turn Element m ~ s into Element m ~ s'
2021-07-05 22:14:23 +0200 <hseg> )
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2021-07-05 22:23:15 +0200 <janus> Aaron Stump is talking about module systems on his podcast recently
2021-07-05 22:24:04 +0200 <janus> he already did one on the haskell system but he didn't really focus on the explicit export lists
2021-07-05 22:25:14 +0200 <janus> but maybe this is more of a software engineering concern and won't be interesting to an academic
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2021-07-05 23:40:25 +0200 <qrpnxz> why doesn't cabal just do the right thing rather than making me put a --lib flag?
2021-07-05 23:41:27 +0200 <monochrom> IMO you are conflating "the right thing" with "read my mind".
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2021-07-05 23:41:49 +0200 <geekosaur> it's also discourag9ing that particular use because it causes confusion
2021-07-05 23:41:52 +0200 <monochrom> and also "the right thing for everyone" with "the right thing just for me"
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