| 2021-10-29 00:18:43 +0200 | a6a45081-2b83 | (~aditya@2601:249:4300:1296:88ec:cc73:84d4:1507) |
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| 2021-10-29 01:09:47 +0200 | bsjd` | (~user@2a02:a020:57:1505:9bbc:daa3:a46e:b815) |
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| 2021-10-29 01:22:48 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2021-10-29 06:09:29 +0200 | Hash | OpenSores |
| 2021-10-29 06:12:39 +0200 | OpenSores | OpenSource |
| 2021-10-29 06:41:35 +0200 | bsjd` | (~user@2a02:a020:57:1505:9bbc:daa3:a46e:b815) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-10-29 07:00:08 +0200 | OpenSource | Hash |
| 2021-10-29 07:27:59 +0200 | pl | (sid98063@helmsley.irccloud.com) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2021-10-29 07:30:00 +0200 | pl | (sid98063@id-98063.helmsley.irccloud.com) |
| 2021-10-29 07:33:13 +0200 | <Solid> | liskin: that's great news! /o/ |
| 2021-10-29 07:34:54 +0200 | <Solid> | I was also expecting more of a reaction to the release, but I think it's that everyone who builds with stack/nix/or similar was already using git anyways (because it's so easy) and everyone who relies on distro packages has simply not had a chance to try it out :) |
| 2021-10-29 07:35:15 +0200 | gruntsplatter | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-10-29 08:11:19 +0200 | sagax | (~sagax_nb@user/sagax) |
| 2021-10-29 08:17:42 +0200 | gruntsplatter | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) |
| 2021-10-29 08:17:44 +0200 | gruntsplatter | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) (Client Quit) |
| 2021-10-29 08:17:58 +0200 | gruntsplatter | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) |
| 2021-10-29 08:41:18 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-10-29 08:44:19 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) |
| 2021-10-29 09:01:53 +0200 | <M-elo-[m]> | I think you are right since that's what I noticed when I was searching for xmonad overlay |
| 2021-10-29 09:02:07 +0200 | <M-elo-[m]> | Wish there was a hydra build for git though, that would've certainly speed things up a lot |
| 2021-10-29 09:06:28 +0200 | <Solid> | mh I wonder why we do this https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/src/XMonad/Operations.hs#L257 |
| 2021-10-29 09:07:05 +0200 | <Solid> | we catch the exception thrown by getWindowAttributes and then... print it to stdout in the same way it would be if we didn't catch it |
| 2021-10-29 09:07:27 +0200 | <Solid> | s/stdout/stderr/ |
| 2021-10-29 09:07:45 +0200 | <Solid> | that seems rather unintuitive (and, indeed, I don't see why we would write to stderr at all, since we have something useful to do if we catch it) |
| 2021-10-29 09:14:07 +0200 | jason | (~jason@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) |
| 2021-10-29 09:14:19 +0200 | <jason> | hello |
| 2021-10-29 09:14:25 +0200 | <jason> | xmonad users |
| 2021-10-29 09:16:04 +0200 | <Solid> | hi, xmonad user :) |
| 2021-10-29 09:16:52 +0200 | <liskin> | Solid: what useful thing would you do instead of printing? |
| 2021-10-29 09:17:18 +0200 | <Solid> | liskin: there is a default value we give back already; why print it at all? |
| 2021-10-29 09:17:34 +0200 | <liskin> | I see |
| 2021-10-29 09:18:50 +0200 | <liskin> | Well my local fork carries https://github.com/liskin/xmonad/commit/d084b381c414427abb77a819025a6e7ddfe0b3b7 for months :-) |
| 2021-10-29 09:19:14 +0200 | <liskin> | But I never felt confident to take that upstream |
| 2021-10-29 09:19:28 +0200 | <Solid> | hah |
| 2021-10-29 09:21:01 +0200 | jason | (~jason@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) (Quit: Lost terminal) |
| 2021-10-29 09:21:12 +0200 | <Solid> | I was quite surprised to see that we don't refresh the window list after sending a DestroyWindowEvent |
| 2021-10-29 09:35:45 +0200 | qbt | (~qbt@user/edun) |
| 2021-10-29 09:45:33 +0200 | alternateved | (~user@staticline-31-183-149-3.toya.net.pl) |
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| 2021-10-29 10:16:54 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2021-10-29 10:17:38 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) |
| 2021-10-29 10:27:40 +0200 | gruntsplatter | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) |
| 2021-10-29 10:35:18 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) |
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| 2021-10-29 10:43:18 +0200 | <Solid> | liskin: I'll also bump the stackage resolver of xmonad to 18.14, if you don't mind |
| 2021-10-29 10:55:29 +0200 | <liskin> | Yeah, forgot that one. X11 too probably if anyone cares. |
| 2021-10-29 11:00:09 +0200 | ninjanoob454[m] | (~ninjanoob@2001:470:69fc:105::1:75e) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
| 2021-10-29 11:00:43 +0200 | Solid | does not :) |
| 2021-10-29 11:00:56 +0200 | ninjanoob454[m] | (~ninjanoob@2001:470:69fc:105::1:75e) |
| 2021-10-29 11:01:00 +0200 | ninjanoob454[m] | (~ninjanoob@2001:470:69fc:105::1:75e) () |
| 2021-10-29 11:31:15 +0200 | alternat` | (~user@staticline-31-183-149-3.toya.net.pl) |
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| 2021-10-29 11:34:18 +0200 | alternat` | (~user@staticline-31-183-149-3.toya.net.pl) () |
| 2021-10-29 12:03:45 +0200 | alternateved | (~user@staticline-31-183-149-3.toya.net.pl) |
| 2021-10-29 12:18:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | Solid, one reason might be left over debugging; some time back getWindowAttributes was changed to throw an exception and we originally missed updating some calls, leading to occasional crashes |
| 2021-10-29 12:18:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | plus, well, why we made that change in the first place |
| 2021-10-29 13:03:02 +0200 | faultline | (~christian@nat-eduroam-01.scc.kit.edu) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
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| 2021-10-29 13:30:09 +0200 | electr0n | (~electr0n@about/security/founder/electr0n) |
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| 2021-10-29 14:19:59 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Quit: Leaving) |
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| 2021-10-29 14:31:22 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) |
| 2021-10-29 15:23:35 +0200 | <Solid> | ah, that was probably this one https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/146 |
| 2021-10-29 15:36:34 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that actually came afterward, I think. |
| 2021-10-29 15:37:07 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the background there is that the X11 wrappers often didn't check for NULL returns and coredumped if they got them |
| 2021-10-29 15:37:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | we may still have a few of those around |
| 2021-10-29 15:37:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so getWindowAttributes was changed to check for nullPtr and throw a proper exception |
| 2021-10-29 15:40:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | which changed rare core dumps (usually we got garbage instead of what we wanted) into not so rare exceptions, thus the changes to catch getWindowAttributes exceptions afterward |
| 2021-10-29 15:52:38 +0200 | <Solid> | most of these calls look pretty easy to replace |
| 2021-10-29 15:53:14 +0200 | <Solid> | except the ones that happen in layouts; no good "default case" in case of an exception there :/ |
| 2021-10-29 15:54:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yeh, you pretty much have to let those happen and be caught and the layout stuff itself will thereby default to Full aka instance LayoutClass Full where {} |
| 2021-10-29 16:17:07 +0200 | seschwar | (~seschwar@user/seschwar) |
| 2021-10-29 16:19:12 +0200 | qbt | (~qbt@user/edun) (Quit: Leaving.) |
| 2021-10-29 16:19:50 +0200 | <Solid> | oh will it? that's nice at least |
| 2021-10-29 16:22:47 +0200 | faultline | (~christian@193.27.14.21) |
| 2021-10-29 16:24:32 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) |
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| 2021-10-29 17:00:08 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
| 2021-10-29 17:28:24 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) |
| 2021-10-29 17:59:01 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) |
| 2021-10-29 18:07:21 +0200 | <geekosaur> | 9.2.1. let the bug hunts begin! |
| 2021-10-29 18:07:35 +0200 | seschwar | (~seschwar@user/seschwar) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-10-29 18:09:20 +0200 | seschwar | (~seschwar@user/seschwar) |
| 2021-10-29 18:13:02 +0200 | geekosaur | figures he'll wait for another point release, just in case |
| 2021-10-29 18:14:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and look, another backer! |
| 2021-10-29 18:14:52 +0200 | liskin | is still on 8.8, because Debian :-/ |
| 2021-10-29 18:15:07 +0200 | <liskin> | but I'll probably add 9.2 to the CI |
| 2021-10-29 18:40:45 +0200 | ft | (~ft@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2021-10-29 18:41:43 +0200 | ft | (~ft@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de) |
| 2021-10-29 19:24:40 +0200 | <liskin> | hm, I guess it's a bit early |
| 2021-10-29 19:24:54 +0200 | <liskin> | haskell-ci does have a PR for GHC 9.2, but ghcup won't install it |
| 2021-10-29 19:25:02 +0200 | <liskin> | well at least I'm ready |
| 2021-10-29 19:25:11 +0200 | <Solid> | yeah I'd give it another one or two months |
| 2021-10-29 19:25:26 +0200 | <Solid> | I feel like a lot of tooling still hasn't caught up to 9.0 even |
| 2021-10-29 19:27:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | well, a lot of folks have been giving 9.0 a miss because it's so buggy. 9.2.1 is supposed to be the bugfix release |
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| 2021-10-29 22:32:01 +0200 | humky | (~humky@user/humky) |