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2026-04-20 00:28:55 +0000 <janus> is anybody interested in swagger2/openapi3 packages? they are both abandoned and lts-25 is going to be released without them
2026-04-20 00:30:42 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> I'd like to have that stuff all working, but not enough to work on it
2026-04-20 00:31:15 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> I guess we don't have enough of an API builder community to maintain those ?
2026-04-20 00:32:09 +0000 <janus> i know my former employer uses it a lot, but i have cried wolf too many times
2026-04-20 00:33:19 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> last time I looked into that topic (API standards/builder/generators/checkers & haskell), it was so chaotic and complex I have been in no hurry to touch it again :)
2026-04-20 00:33:50 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-04-20 00:34:17 +0000 <janus> rick owens seems to be quite invested
2026-04-20 00:34:21 +0000 <janus> i will shoot him an e-mail
2026-04-20 00:36:04 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> outside of haskell, are those currently both standard/stable/preferred, do you know ?
2026-04-20 00:36:53 +0000haskellbridgesm checks
2026-04-20 00:37:28 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> > OpenAPI 3.x (and 3.1) is the current preferred standard for RESTful APIs, having replaced the outdated Swagger 2.0.
2026-04-20 00:37:38 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> I see
2026-04-20 00:37:45 +0000 <janus> they are pretty popular , i think
2026-04-20 00:37:49 +0000notzmv(~umar@user/notzmv) notzmv
2026-04-20 00:38:12 +0000 <janus> at my former employer we integrated with a lot of logistics companies any many of them would publish OpenAPI specs
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2026-04-20 00:39:59 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> so ideally https://hackage.haskell.org/package/openapi3 would be the one to focus on I guess (but it looks less maintained currently)
2026-04-20 00:42:37 +0000 <janus> it is a fork of the other one, and it was minimally maintained by maksbotan from Biocad, a russian biotech company
2026-04-20 00:43:01 +0000 <janus> and i think they have github notifications turned off because the updates do not come as response to pings
2026-04-20 00:43:42 +0000 <janus> cma cgm uses open API, that's a large company: https://api-portal.cma-cgm.com/products/allocation?summaryId=commercial.allocation.route.v1
2026-04-20 00:46:29 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> oh I see, yes. Minimal activity since it was created in 2016
2026-04-20 00:47:05 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> but ongoing small updates to both since the fork in 2020
2026-04-20 00:47:41 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> (it looks like, but maybe I'm wrong)
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2026-04-20 00:50:01 +0000 <janus> yeah, it's just so minimal. Oh well, someone might notice once build plans start failing. But if people use the Cabal solver, that might take a few more years :P
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2026-04-20 01:31:34 +0000 <sclv> janus: at work we use servant-swagger, which uses swagger2
2026-04-20 01:35:22 +0000 <jackdk> Yeah servant-openapi3 is good but has serious flaws in some of its type families. (certain uses will demand spurious instances for `NoContent`.) Needs a handover to a live maintainer or a fork.
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2026-04-20 01:41:35 +0000somemathguy(~somemathg@user/somemathguy) somemathguy
2026-04-20 01:42:29 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> there's also the https://matrix.to/#/#haskell-webdev:matrix.org room where more interested folks might be found
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2026-04-20 01:57:30 +0000 <davean> jackdk: I had real issues with servant-openapi3, I tried using it for a project a few years ago and I had to hand-write basicly all of it :/
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2026-04-20 01:58:34 +0000humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect
2026-04-20 01:58:44 +0000 <davean> So I pretty much gave up on the package as useless if I had to hand write the spec just via types and type classs.
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2026-04-20 02:05:43 +0000 <davean> I was very frustrated.
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