| 2026-03-07 00:02:04 +0100 | ec | (~ec@gateway/tor-sasl/ec) ec |
| 2026-03-07 00:03:15 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:d97f:6c22:5298:b927) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2026-03-07 00:04:24 +0100 | juri_ | (~juri@217-114-215-140.pool.ovpn.com) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 00:06:17 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@62.45.136.136) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 00:08:59 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
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| 2026-03-07 00:12:06 +0100 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@172.219.48.230) machinedgod |
| 2026-03-07 00:12:59 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) CloneOfNone |
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| 2026-03-07 00:26:23 +0100 | tremon | (~tremon@83.80.159.219) (Quit: getting boxed in) |
| 2026-03-07 00:29:21 +0100 | mange | (~mange@user/mange) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-03-07 00:37:51 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@62.45.136.136) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 00:40:13 +0100 | chexum | (~quassel@gateway/tor-sasl/chexum) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2026-03-07 00:44:48 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@62.45.136.136) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
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| 2026-03-07 00:54:15 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 00:55:22 +0100 | athan | (~athan@98.150.233.226) athan |
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| 2026-03-07 01:05:59 +0100 | athan | (~athan@98.150.233.226) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2026-03-07 01:09:02 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
| 2026-03-07 01:10:02 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-03-07 01:25:50 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-03-07 01:38:43 +0100 | hiecaq | (~hiecaq@user/hiecaq) hiecaq |
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| 2026-03-07 01:43:27 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@2a02:2455:8656:7100:9c04:77be:7a54:3a7d) (Changing host) |
| 2026-03-07 01:43:27 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
| 2026-03-07 01:46:30 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
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| 2026-03-07 01:57:01 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 01:59:45 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) (Quit: ZNC 1.10.1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2026-03-07 02:01:03 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) CloneOfNone |
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| 2026-03-07 02:06:09 +0100 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@88.114.89.88) (Quit: Leaving.) |
| 2026-03-07 02:08:42 +0100 | <tusko> | When I write Haskell I sometimes ask myself why I ever wrote in another language |
| 2026-03-07 02:13:10 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@62.45.136.136) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 02:18:52 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) peterbecich |
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| 2026-03-07 02:30:50 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 02:31:56 +0100 | omnifunctor | (~omnifunct@user/semifunctor) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-03-07 02:33:25 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) (Quit: ZNC 1.10.1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2026-03-07 02:34:01 +0100 | omnifunctor | (~omnifunct@user/semifunctor) omnifunctor |
| 2026-03-07 02:34:54 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) CloneOfNone |
| 2026-03-07 02:36:19 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 02:36:27 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-03-07 02:37:17 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) CloneOfNone |
| 2026-03-07 02:40:10 +0100 | collide2954 | (~collide29@user/collide2954) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
| 2026-03-07 02:44:49 +0100 | durstloescher | (~textual@2a02:8109:1b01:2500:a050:c84e:2137:b3ac) |
| 2026-03-07 02:46:37 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-03-07 02:57:53 +0100 | skum | (~skum@user/skum) (Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1) |
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| 2026-03-07 03:01:58 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 03:02:34 +0100 | skum | (~skum@user/skum) (Client Quit) |
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| 2026-03-07 03:07:00 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 03:16:06 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) (Quit: ZNC 1.10.1 - https://znc.in) |
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| 2026-03-07 03:17:46 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 03:20:22 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2026-03-07 03:40:08 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 03:44:27 +0100 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d172-219-48-230.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
| 2026-03-07 03:44:28 +0100 | Ranhir | (~Ranhir@157.97.53.139) Ranhir |
| 2026-03-07 03:45:08 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 03:47:20 +0100 | durstloescher | (~textual@2a02:8109:1b01:2500:a050:c84e:2137:b3ac) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) |
| 2026-03-07 03:55:56 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-03-07 04:13:59 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 04:14:20 +0100 | GdeVolpiano | (~GdeVolpia@user/GdeVolpiano) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 04:16:14 +0100 | GdeVolpiano | (~GdeVolpia@user/GdeVolpiano) GdeVolpiano |
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| 2026-03-07 04:21:38 +0100 | DetourNetworkUK | (~DetourNet@user/DetourNetworkUK) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-03-07 04:21:55 +0100 | DetourNe- | (~DetourNet@user/DetourNetworkUK) DetourNetworkUK |
| 2026-03-07 04:24:10 +0100 | DetourNe- | DetourNetworkUK |
| 2026-03-07 04:39:02 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@2a02:2455:8656:7100:9c04:77be:7a54:3a7d) |
| 2026-03-07 04:39:02 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@2a02:2455:8656:7100:9c04:77be:7a54:3a7d) (Changing host) |
| 2026-03-07 04:39:02 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
| 2026-03-07 04:43:21 +0100 | mange | (~mange@user/mange) mange |
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| 2026-03-07 04:50:59 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:acbe:a784:57c1:5e52) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 04:52:22 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) (Quit: ZNC 1.10.1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2026-03-07 04:54:05 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) CloneOfNone |
| 2026-03-07 04:57:36 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
| 2026-03-07 04:59:52 +0100 | CloneOfNone_ | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) CloneOfNone |
| 2026-03-07 05:00:02 +0100 | CloneOfNone | (~CloneOfNo@user/CloneOfNone) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-03-07 05:00:31 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-03-07 05:16:37 +0100 | DetourNe- | (~DetourNet@user/DetourNetworkUK) DetourNetworkUK |
| 2026-03-07 05:17:55 +0100 | DetourNetworkUK | (~DetourNet@user/DetourNetworkUK) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-03-07 05:18:56 +0100 | DetourNe- | DetourNetworkUK |
| 2026-03-07 05:21:24 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 05:31:49 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 05:32:38 +0100 | <glguy> | tusko: what was the answer? |
| 2026-03-07 05:38:50 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 05:39:53 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
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| 2026-03-07 05:46:04 +0100 | stackdroid18 | (~stackdroi@user/stackdroid) () |
| 2026-03-07 05:49:50 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 05:50:32 +0100 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2026-03-07 05:50:48 +0100 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
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| 2026-03-07 05:54:10 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 05:54:55 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@192.249.132.90) humasect |
| 2026-03-07 05:54:57 +0100 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
| 2026-03-07 06:05:12 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-03-07 06:06:55 +0100 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d172-219-48-230.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 06:07:02 +0100 | chexum | (~quassel@gateway/tor-sasl/chexum) chexum |
| 2026-03-07 06:10:04 +0100 | philopsos1 | (~caecilius@user/philopsos) philopsos |
| 2026-03-07 06:10:10 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 06:11:57 +0100 | philopsos1 | (~caecilius@user/philopsos) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2026-03-07 06:24:03 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@2a02:2455:8656:7100:9c04:77be:7a54:3a7d) |
| 2026-03-07 06:24:03 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@2a02:2455:8656:7100:9c04:77be:7a54:3a7d) (Changing host) |
| 2026-03-07 06:24:03 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
| 2026-03-07 06:27:16 +0100 | philopsos1 | (~caecilius@user/philopsos) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2026-03-07 06:30:19 +0100 | GdeVolpiano | (~GdeVolpia@user/GdeVolpiano) (Quit: WeeChat 4.7.2) |
| 2026-03-07 06:30:38 +0100 | GdeVolpiano | (~GdeVolpia@user/GdeVolpiano) GdeVolpiano |
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| 2026-03-07 06:32:40 +0100 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
| 2026-03-07 06:32:52 +0100 | philopsos1 | (~caecilius@user/philopsos) philopsos |
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| 2026-03-07 06:36:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-03-07 06:42:09 +0100 | divlamir | (~divlamir@user/divlamir) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2026-03-07 07:25:01 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
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| 2026-03-07 07:41:51 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
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| 2026-03-07 08:15:44 +0100 | <ski> | EvanR : if you want to, you can view the semantic value of a syntactic category / nonterminal to be the value of a particular (synthesized, passed up, output) attribute of that syntactical category, regarding the whole grammar as an attribute grammars. (but attribute grammars are more general, can have multiple attributes on each syntactic category, some of which may be inherited (passed down, input)) |
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| 2026-03-07 08:18:46 +0100 | <ski> | @hackage uuagc |
| 2026-03-07 08:18:46 +0100 | <lambdabot> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/uuagc |
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| 2026-03-07 08:23:17 +0100 | ski | . o O ( "Utrecht University Attribute Grammar Compiler" <https://web.archive.org/web/20160625015520/http://foswiki.cs.uu.nl/foswiki/bin/view/HUT/AttributeG…>,<https://github.com/UU-ComputerScience/uuagc> ) |
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| 2026-03-07 11:39:06 +0100 | Beowulf | (florian@sleipnir.bandrate.org) (Quit: = "") |
| 2026-03-07 11:39:40 +0100 | <Guest89> | hello; I'm trying to profile an application that is rather performance sensitive and I'm hoping to reduce allocations as much as possible (this is for the purposes of a master's thesis I'm working on), but I'm having a little trouble isolating the hotspots in my code and understanding whether or not my code itself is overallocating as it is |
| 2026-03-07 11:39:41 +0100 | <Guest89> | written. would anyone be willing to help me figure things out? |
| 2026-03-07 11:40:11 +0100 | <Guest89> | garbage collection takes 3 times as long as the code itself for example, which I think seems very excessive. I've been trying to play around with things like ghc-compact but it didn't seem to help things any |
| 2026-03-07 11:41:21 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> hi Guest89 . It's not the easiest process, but it will be useful to generate a simple time and space profile - the profiling chapter in the GHC Users's Guide should tell how |
| 2026-03-07 11:41:50 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> you must make a profiling build of your app, then run it with special flags |
| 2026-03-07 11:42:04 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 11:44:12 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> it will be hard to understand completely, but full of useful information. You can also process it with https://hackage.haskell.org/package/profiterole which makes it more readable. |
| 2026-03-07 11:45:29 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> and you're right, it's overallocating (garbage collection should be a small percentage of your run time) |
| 2026-03-07 11:45:32 +0100 | <Guest89> | I'll be honest, I haven't figured out how to interact with packages like that yet; I've used stuff like eventlog2html but compiled as a separate executable |
| 2026-03-07 11:45:59 +0100 | <Guest89> | I've mostly relied on the metrics provided by different RTS options so far |
| 2026-03-07 11:46:16 +0100 | <Guest89> | it's verbose but I can navigate it at least? |
| 2026-03-07 11:46:33 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> yes, +RTS -s is useful |
| 2026-03-07 11:47:46 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> https://github.com/ezyang/compact <- this might help with excessive gc times |
| 2026-03-07 11:47:48 +0100 | <Guest89> | I have some data that suggests that the data itself isn't fragmented but the program allocates about twice as much as it uses, which also seems excessive |
| 2026-03-07 11:48:10 +0100 | <Guest89> | I've already been trying to use GHC.Compact but it doesn't seem to have affected runtimes at all |
| 2026-03-07 11:48:33 +0100 | <Guest89> | I assume there is some structure in my code that exacerbates the problem but I can't really see where |
| 2026-03-07 11:49:28 +0100 | <Guest89> | it's supposed to be an implementation of I/O efficient BDD (binary decision diagram) algorithms which necessarily generates a lot of data so I need some way to minimize overhead where it's reasonable |
| 2026-03-07 11:49:57 +0100 | Ranhir | (~Ranhir@157.97.53.139) Ranhir |
| 2026-03-07 11:50:08 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> it may be normal that the program uses 2 or even 3 times what you think, depending how you measure it, because of how GC works (making copies) |
| 2026-03-07 11:50:38 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
| 2026-03-07 11:50:51 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> the time and space profile will show you the top users of time and space, and will show you any crazy large call counts indicating things called too often |
| 2026-03-07 11:50:56 +0100 | <Guest89> | I understand, but the issue is that my implementation uses something like 100 times as much memory as a reference implementation in C++ |
| 2026-03-07 11:51:26 +0100 | <Guest89> | obviously you can't get the performance *that* close, at least not in terms of memory, but as things are it's both an absurd difference and not feasible |
| 2026-03-07 11:51:37 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> Maybe it's thunk explosion somewhere, like from foldl |
| 2026-03-07 11:51:53 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> it requires investigation, there's no way round it |
| 2026-03-07 11:52:17 +0100 | <Guest89> | I've tried both strict and non-strict versions of foldl, and I didn't seem to see any issues |
| 2026-03-07 11:52:40 +0100 | <Guest89> | most of the actual allocation happens within the core algorithms, but I've also tried varying levels of strictness there |
| 2026-03-07 11:52:49 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> ye it's just an example |
| 2026-03-07 11:53:30 +0100 | <Guest89> | I just don't see how garbage collection can dominate the runtime so much |
| 2026-03-07 11:55:14 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> well, how much memory does +RTS -s say is being allocated ? |
| 2026-03-07 11:55:26 +0100 | <Guest89> | is it possible to paste pictures over IRC? |
| 2026-03-07 11:55:31 +0100 | <Guest89> | or should I just put it in writing |
| 2026-03-07 11:55:46 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> it's a lot easier if you use the matrix room |
| 2026-03-07 11:55:46 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 11:55:58 +0100 | <Guest89> | not familiar |
| 2026-03-07 11:56:37 +0100 | <Guest89> | I guess I'll just write it down: |
| 2026-03-07 11:56:45 +0100 | <Leary> | Guest89: The problem is less likely to be allocations than unnecessary retention or unwanted thunks bloating your representation. Allocating is almost free, holding onto it is what costs you. In any case, I would start by heap profiling by type, which doesn't actually require a profiling build. |
| 2026-03-07 11:57:14 +0100 | <Leary> | @where paste |
| 2026-03-07 11:57:14 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
| 2026-03-07 11:57:29 +0100 | Beowulf | (florian@sleipnir.bandrate.org) |
| 2026-03-07 11:57:34 +0100 | <Guest89> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/xZZPhSCR |
| 2026-03-07 11:58:11 +0100 | <Guest89> | the only thing I haven't tried has to force computations in different places |
| 2026-03-07 11:58:49 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 11:58:57 +0100 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a02:8071:64e1:da0:5a47:caff:fe78:33db) CiaoSen |
| 2026-03-07 11:59:04 +0100 | <Guest89> | my reference implementation generates only a few megabytes of data by comparison but again it's not comparable 1:1 |
| 2026-03-07 11:59:22 +0100 | hiecaq | (~hiecaq@user/hiecaq) (Quit: ERC 5.6.0.30.1 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 30.2)) |
| 2026-03-07 11:59:28 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> how do you do that Leary ? |
| 2026-03-07 11:59:50 +0100 | <Guest89> | it's one of the -l(x) RTS settings |
| 2026-03-07 12:00:49 +0100 | <Leary> | -hT: https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/users_guide/profiling.html#rts-options-heap-prof |
| 2026-03-07 12:00:51 +0100 | <Guest89> | sorry, -h |
| 2026-03-07 12:01:03 +0100 | <Guest89> | i'll give it a whirl |
| 2026-03-07 12:01:49 +0100 | <Guest89> | I have some plots from using -hc that tells me which functions allocate the most but to be honest they're not particularly surprising in that department |
| 2026-03-07 12:02:32 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex |
| 2026-03-07 12:02:52 +0100 | <Guest89> | also I've been relying on using eventlog2html but it seems to break fairly easily. are there any other options for visualizing the profiles? |
| 2026-03-07 12:08:11 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 12:11:08 +0100 | <Guest89> | seems the biggest allocations come from primitive types, tuples etc |
| 2026-03-07 12:15:03 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 12:16:09 +0100 | <probie> | Beyond the special syntax, tuples aren't really much different from `data T2 a b = T2 a b`, `data T3 a b c = T3 a b c`, `data T4 a b c d = T4 a b c d` etc. |
| 2026-03-07 12:17:07 +0100 | <Guest89> | I thought ghc treated them differently? |
| 2026-03-07 12:17:16 +0100 | <probie> | Why? |
| 2026-03-07 12:17:43 +0100 | <Guest89> | I just understood ghc optimized for tuples in particular over ordinary data constructors |
| 2026-03-07 12:21:47 +0100 | <Leary> | Guest89: It might here and there, but that doesn't mean you're better off using them. In particular, they're lazy, so they can easily accumulate big thunks. I suggest replacing such parts of your representation with suitably strict bespoke data declarations. |
| 2026-03-07 12:22:18 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 12:22:46 +0100 | <probie> | GHC is capable of doing something like `f x = (x, x+1)`, `g x = let (a, b) = f x in a + b` without actually allocating a tuple (assuming it can inline `f`), but that's the same for any user defined type as well |
| 2026-03-07 12:23:55 +0100 | <probie> | If you need multiple return values and can't afford an allocation, look at unboxed tuples (although this is likely overkill) |
| 2026-03-07 12:26:10 +0100 | wootehfoot | (~wootehfoo@user/wootehfoot) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2026-03-07 12:29:16 +0100 | <Guest89> | I tried playing around with unboxed tuples and different pragmas like unpacking but they seemed to have varying/counterintuitive results |
| 2026-03-07 12:29:47 +0100 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-03-07 12:29:55 +0100 | <Guest89> | I should probably experiment with it more but it seemed like allocations went down only a little (or at least less than I expected) while somehow runtimes increased slightly |
| 2026-03-07 12:30:20 +0100 | <Guest89> | but it kind of feels like I am at the kitchen sink stage in general if I'm being honest |
| 2026-03-07 12:31:40 +0100 | <Guest89> | actually, one thing I have been doing in general is guard patterns for unpacking. are they lazy as well or strict the same way pattern matching is? |
| 2026-03-07 12:33:56 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> Guest89 you won't be able to fix it by kitchen sink experimenting, you'll need to dig in and understand. There's likely many causes of space leak |
| 2026-03-07 12:34:24 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> reducing to a simple program you can share, may help |
| 2026-03-07 12:35:18 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> or, commenting out large chunks of your program to see what makes a difference |
| 2026-03-07 12:35:51 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> if you make a profile, people here will help you read it |
| 2026-03-07 12:38:05 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-03-07 12:38:34 +0100 | <Guest89> | when you say *make* a profile, what do you mean exactly? |
| 2026-03-07 12:38:54 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I looked it up: stack install --profile PROG; PROG +RTS -P -RTS ... this will save PROG.prof |
| 2026-03-07 12:38:58 +0100 | <Guest89> | I've got the files from profiling and some html pages rendered from them if that's what you mean |
| 2026-03-07 12:39:54 +0100 | <Guest89> | do you just want a file dump? |
| 2026-03-07 12:40:02 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> do you have a .prof file ? |
| 2026-03-07 12:40:07 +0100 | <Guest89> | yes |
| 2026-03-07 12:40:18 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> by all means show it :) |
| 2026-03-07 12:40:51 +0100 | <Guest89> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/AUb2v7Sh |
| 2026-03-07 12:41:02 +0100 | Square3 | (~Square@user/square) Square |
| 2026-03-07 12:41:39 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> lovely. And it might be interesting to run profiterole on that too. |
| 2026-03-07 12:42:17 +0100 | <Guest89> | will try |
| 2026-03-07 12:43:01 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> see the entries column.. you have something being called 26 million times, eg. Is that what you'd expect ? Is the data that large ? |
| 2026-03-07 12:43:07 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 12:43:12 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
| 2026-03-07 12:43:34 +0100 | <Guest89> | so currently on a benchmark that I have (encoding `n-queens`) the number of nodes in my data structure is expected to quadruple for each n but currently space and time seems to increase 10-fold instead |
| 2026-03-07 12:43:46 +0100 | <Guest89> | but on that particular run; no, that is excessive |
| 2026-03-07 12:44:02 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> it sounds like something is doing too much work |
| 2026-03-07 12:44:30 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> $wbddApply'' is called half a million times |
| 2026-03-07 12:44:50 +0100 | <Guest89> | let me try something for a quick sanity check |
| 2026-03-07 12:44:57 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> $sinsert_$sgo4 14 million. maybe one of those... |
| 2026-03-07 12:45:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> (I don't know why these names are obfuscated) |
| 2026-03-07 12:46:07 +0100 | <Guest89> | I don't know what they are either |
| 2026-03-07 12:46:16 +0100 | <Guest89> | I've only seem them now that I'm running with -P instead of -p |
| 2026-03-07 12:47:02 +0100 | <Guest89> | well insert is probably from the data structure I use to maintain a priority queue |
| 2026-03-07 12:48:17 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2026-03-07 12:50:02 +0100 | <Guest89> | so in this particular example the data is generated from a fold that iteratively uses bddApply on new BDDs, but only 7 times total. the largest BDDs being applied have a few thousand nodes each, which means that the upper bound for bddApply will necessarily be in the millions |
| 2026-03-07 12:50:19 +0100 | <Guest89> | but most likely it should be less than that because of short circuiting on a lot of the node combinations |
| 2026-03-07 12:50:44 +0100 | <Guest89> | it seems like a lot but I can't dismiss it as unexpected |
| 2026-03-07 12:52:51 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> it looks like there's a lot comparing needed to do an insert. Is it your own custom priority queue ? |