| 2026-02-26 00:03:02 +0100 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d172-219-48-230.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
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| 2026-02-26 00:28:33 +0100 | marinelli | (~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/marinelli) marinelli |
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| 2026-02-26 00:32:07 +0100 | Googulator12 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0119-3163-e164-ab4d-fc66.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2026-02-26 00:33:45 +0100 | tusko | (~uwu@user/tusko) tusko |
| 2026-02-26 00:33:56 +0100 | <tusko> | i liek haskell |
| 2026-02-26 00:36:29 +0100 | Googulator88 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-499d-5cc3-861f-fb3b-e380.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 00:40:58 +0100 | __monty__ | (~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2026-02-26 00:41:06 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) housemate |
| 2026-02-26 00:57:59 +0100 | tjbc | (~tjbc@user/fliife) (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) |
| 2026-02-26 00:59:24 +0100 | tjbc | (~tjbc@user/fliife) fliife |
| 2026-02-26 00:59:43 +0100 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@88-114-89-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Quit: Leaving.) |
| 2026-02-26 01:07:39 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 01:07:50 +0100 | <Digit> | i like https://www.youtube.com/@arturorochoa9359/streams 's recent noob haskell learning vids |
| 2026-02-26 01:08:32 +0100 | <tusko> | thanking you _/\_ |
| 2026-02-26 01:23:52 +0100 | ilbelkyr | nicole |
| 2026-02-26 01:29:01 +0100 | <Comstar> | tusko, have you seen helsinki's open course? it's a pretty nice and gentle guided way to learn haskell |
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| 2026-02-26 03:26:21 +0100 | <ethan1> | hi, i'm just starting to learn haskell, i've been looking at https://haskell.mooc.fi and they use stack for most stuff |
| 2026-02-26 03:26:43 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) housemate |
| 2026-02-26 03:27:18 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that's not a problem, but modern cabal is much saner than very early versions 20ish years ago and you should probably learn it as well |
| 2026-02-26 03:27:49 +0100 | <ethan1> | i was looking at https://learnyouahaskell.github.io/introduction.html#about-this-tutorial and they recommend ghcup |
| 2026-02-26 03:28:08 +0100 | <ethan1> | well i'm running v 9.6.6 so i think i've got modern cabal? |
| 2026-02-26 03:28:10 +0100 | <ethan1> | i could be wrong |
| 2026-02-26 03:28:10 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> good |
| 2026-02-26 03:28:35 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> cabal should be enough |
| 2026-02-26 03:31:55 +0100 | <geekosaur> | ghcup installs both cabal and stack |
| 2026-02-26 03:32:05 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's an installer, not a builder |
| 2026-02-26 03:34:41 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex |
| 2026-02-26 03:34:59 +0100 | <ethan1> | what i did was install debian's version of stack, and used that to install ghci |
| 2026-02-26 03:35:04 +0100 | <ethan1> | things seem to work fine |
| 2026-02-26 03:35:19 +0100 | <ethan1> | i want to get through the course and/or book |
| 2026-02-26 03:35:38 +0100 | <ethan1> | i was thinking i'd stick to that setup for most of it, and then i'd tweak it later if needed |
| 2026-02-26 03:36:11 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it'll work, it'll just get you older versions of things |
| 2026-02-26 03:36:22 +0100 | <ethan1> | and it turns out i don't have cabal, so i installed cabal 3.10.3 |
| 2026-02-26 03:36:36 +0100 | <ethan1> | geekosaur: that's fine then, i'll update if i need to |
| 2026-02-26 03:36:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | ghcup gets you recommended versions of things |
| 2026-02-26 03:37:02 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (in particular cabal 3.10.3 is fairly old at this point and has known bugs) |
| 2026-02-26 03:37:53 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and if your ghc is older than 9.4 it will also have potentially severe known bugs |
| 2026-02-26 03:38:07 +0100 | <ethan1> | i have v9.6 |
| 2026-02-26 03:38:15 +0100 | <ethan1> | how bad are the bugs? |
| 2026-02-26 03:39:06 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 03:40:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | 9.6.7 is fine, older minor versions can be problematic |
| 2026-02-26 03:41:23 +0100 | <geekosaur> | in general you want the latest minor version of any ghc (with haskell version numbers, the major number is the first two components) |
| 2026-02-26 03:42:25 +0100 | <geekosaur> | there is certainly no reason to run very recent versions unless you want to experiment; ghc moves quickly because it's' both a research compiler and a production compiler |
| 2026-02-26 03:42:56 +0100 | <ethan1> | specifically, i've got 9.6.6 |
| 2026-02-26 03:42:59 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex |
| 2026-02-26 03:46:24 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> why do you have 9.6.6 |
| 2026-02-26 03:47:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's probably okay but there are some bugs on some platforms: https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/9.6.7/docs/users_guide/9.6.7-notes.html#compiler and succeeding sections |
| 2026-02-26 03:47:45 +0100 | <geekosaur> | maerwald: debian |
| 2026-02-26 03:47:52 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) (Quit: https://ineedsomeacidtocalmmedown.space/) |
| 2026-02-26 03:48:11 +0100 | <ethan1> | yeah debian lol |
| 2026-02-26 03:48:44 +0100 | <ethan1> | i'll just run the ghcup install script when i can, then |
| 2026-02-26 03:49:08 +0100 | <ethan1> | if it becomes a huge problem |
| 2026-02-26 03:53:24 +0100 | <Clint> | it's 9.6.6 with some patches, ftr |
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| 2026-02-26 06:48:52 +0100 | Square2 | (~Square4@user/square) Square |
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| 2026-02-26 07:05:52 +0100 | <tusko> | Comstar: I haven't. Have been working through Hutton's book |
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| 2026-02-26 13:35:15 +0100 | realBeginner | (~realBegin@164.215.171.125) |
| 2026-02-26 13:37:14 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex |
| 2026-02-26 13:38:51 +0100 | <realBeginner> | Hi, would anyone who knows Python, C, and Haskell be able to answer my question, please? I am an absolute beginner to programming. Which programming language would give me a better foundation and help me learn other things in the long run? |
| 2026-02-26 13:39:05 +0100 | philopsos1 | (~caecilius@user/philopsos) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 13:40:08 +0100 | <darkling> | They will all teach you things. They will all teach you different things, in different ways. |
| 2026-02-26 13:40:12 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) |
| 2026-02-26 13:42:15 +0100 | <darkling> | Python's probably the easiest of the three to understand. Haskell is the most elegant. C (or Rust) will probably give you a slightly better idea of what's going on down at the CPU level. |
| 2026-02-26 13:43:00 +0100 | <realBeginner> | If you were me, you would start with… ? I am very patient |
| 2026-02-26 13:43:25 +0100 | <darkling> | Personally, I'd suggest Python. Other opinions are available. :) |
| 2026-02-26 13:43:35 +0100 | <oskarw> | realBeginner: I started programming in python as it was introductory language on my university, and I think this is great start |
| 2026-02-26 13:44:20 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 13:44:55 +0100 | karenw | (~karenw@user/karenw) karenw |
| 2026-02-26 13:45:08 +0100 | <merijn> | To be the dissent, I think it's a terrible start :p |
| 2026-02-26 13:45:09 +0100 | <oskarw> | realBeginner: You can also try scheme after learning python with SICP. SICP is great book about programming in general, and is uses scheme |
| 2026-02-26 13:45:15 +0100 | <darkling> | (My personal journey went something like: BASIC, Arm assembler, C, C++, Perl, Java, Python, Erlang, TypeScript, Rust. I've only really dabbled in Haskell.) |
| 2026-02-26 13:45:20 +0100 | <merijn> | And empirically, starting with Haskell and going to python is fairly easy :p |
| 2026-02-26 13:45:28 +0100 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@88-114-89-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi) Tuplanolla |
| 2026-02-26 13:46:33 +0100 | <oskarw> | merijn: You have to wait until IO monad to print something on screen. Also, haskell only made sense for me when I learned about state monad, and this is a long way from the start |
| 2026-02-26 13:47:06 +0100 | <oskarw> | merijn: Which programming lanugage would you recommend for beginners? |
| 2026-02-26 13:47:15 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) housemate |
| 2026-02-26 13:48:26 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) |
| 2026-02-26 13:50:07 +0100 | <realBeginner> | Which language has the most logical syntax and processes? I dislike inconsistency. |
| 2026-02-26 13:50:17 +0100 | <oskarw> | realBeginner: If you would be more interested in learning how computer works, I can recommend "Turing complete" game on steam https://store.steampowered.com/app/1444480/Turing_Complete/ |
| 2026-02-26 13:50:51 +0100 | <oskarw> | realBeginner: Could you explain what do you mean by inconsistency? |
| 2026-02-26 13:51:10 +0100 | <__monty__> | I'd say Haskell has the nicer syntax, entirely unbiased opinion, of course. |
| 2026-02-26 13:52:34 +0100 | oskarw | loves both haskell and lisp syntax, but he knows that liking lisp syntax on #haskell is tabu |
| 2026-02-26 13:52:49 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 13:52:49 +0100 | <oskarw> | *taboo |
| 2026-02-26 13:54:10 +0100 | philopsos1 | (~caecilius@user/philopsos) philopsos |
| 2026-02-26 13:54:11 +0100 | <realBeginner> | English isn’t my native language, and learning its grammar was a nightmare—for example, regular nouns versus irregular nouns when forming plurals.I guess this might apply to computer languages |
| 2026-02-26 13:54:49 +0100 | <geekosaur> | dunno about other people, but I find strings not being fully OO in python somewhat confusing and offputting. and its join method always seems backwards to me |
| 2026-02-26 13:55:04 +0100 | <darkling> | They're generally much smaller and hence have less room for variation, but there are definitely syntactic/structural warts in places. |
| 2026-02-26 13:55:36 +0100 | <oskarw> | geekosaur: I can agree that join method have stupid sytax in python |
| 2026-02-26 13:55:52 +0100 | <newmind> | geekosaur: that join feels backwards, i can agree on. treating a string like a primitive type (like an int) though, that makes sense to me |
| 2026-02-26 13:55:55 +0100 | <geekosaur> | english doesn't have grammar, it has loose guidelines that it breask on a whim ☺ |
| 2026-02-26 13:56:18 +0100 | <merijn> | oskarw: I mean, did you know a language before starting haskell? |
| 2026-02-26 13:56:37 +0100 | <merijn> | oskarw: My girlfriend learned haskell as her first language and didn't really struggle |
| 2026-02-26 13:56:55 +0100 | <ski> | oskarw : sexps are fine. there was even a Haskell in sexp syntax .. (Liskell) |
| 2026-02-26 13:57:05 +0100 | <oskarw> | Yes, I knew python, and a bit R and other languages for data science |
| 2026-02-26 13:57:17 +0100 | <merijn> | oskarw: That's a lot of baggage, though |
| 2026-02-26 13:57:17 +0100 | <oskarw> | But for general purpose programming, I only knew python |
| 2026-02-26 13:57:27 +0100 | <newmind> | merijn: i have the strong suspicion that haskell is actually harder (or at least: more frustrating) to learn if you're already proficient in imperative languages |
| 2026-02-26 13:57:33 +0100 | <merijn> | newmind: I agree |
| 2026-02-26 13:58:04 +0100 | <oskarw> | You can write functional code in python /s |
| 2026-02-26 13:58:08 +0100 | <newmind> | you tend to look for analogs and similarities that just don't quite work, and it's frustrating to get stuck on problems you already know should be easy to solve |
| 2026-02-26 13:58:17 +0100 | <darkling> | oskarw: That's where I came to functional programming from. :) |
| 2026-02-26 13:58:25 +0100 | divya | (divya@140.238.251.170) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-02-26 13:58:43 +0100 | <ski> | oskarw : it's possibly easier to learn Haskell, if you don't know another language yet |
| 2026-02-26 13:58:57 +0100 | <darkling> | I realised I was writing things in ever more functional style in my Python, and explicitly went looking for something to learn the details. I landed on Erlang. |
| 2026-02-26 13:59:02 +0100 | <newmind> | like: are typeclasses like java/c# interfaces? well.. a bit, yeah, but not quite |
| 2026-02-26 13:59:54 +0100 | <oskarw> | Outside of implementation of parsers in applicative, I didn't had problems with haskell, thought this was more about that I didn't know anything about parsers |
| 2026-02-26 14:00:21 +0100 | <newmind> | applicative was my real "hard to get my head around" barrier |
| 2026-02-26 14:00:23 +0100 | <oskarw> | Maybe because I had mathematical education I didn't have problems with haskell... |
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| 2026-02-26 14:00:59 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex |
| 2026-02-26 14:01:58 +0100 | <darkling> | Haskell is definitely mathematical catnip. |
| 2026-02-26 14:02:03 +0100 | <Leary> | realBeginner: Haskell is certainly the language most concerned with regularity. |
| 2026-02-26 14:03:04 +0100 | divya | (divya@140.238.251.170) divya |
| 2026-02-26 14:03:30 +0100 | <ski> | realBeginner : Lisps (like e.g. Scheme), and Prolog, have quite simple concrete syntax. Haskell is a bit more complicated, but, for the most part, i'd say, fairly regular, few corner cases/exceptions |
| 2026-02-26 14:03:34 +0100 | <oskarw> | newmind: I remember spend _a lot of time_ on applicative exercise from cis194 |
| 2026-02-26 14:04:34 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) |
| 2026-02-26 14:04:43 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:7955:9591:6018:7ef9) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2026-02-26 14:05:01 +0100 | <oskarw> | realBeginner: Do you have like dream program you want to make? Maybe we can help you more in recommending your programming lanugage based on this answer |
| 2026-02-26 14:05:13 +0100 | <newmind> | i think it's the first time you encounter something that really has no sensible analog in procedural/oop programming |
| 2026-02-26 14:06:23 +0100 | <oskarw> | merijn: From which source did your girlfriend learned Haskell? |
| 2026-02-26 14:07:04 +0100 | <oskarw> | ski: I know you like sexps ;) |
| 2026-02-26 14:08:48 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 14:08:50 +0100 | <oskarw> | newmind: But together with parser it really throw me off. When I done some implementations for list for applicative and doing other exercises from typeclassopedia I didn't had that much of a problem |
| 2026-02-26 14:09:01 +0100 | <realBeginner> | I love learning how to think and enjoy making complex things easier to do. |
| 2026-02-26 14:09:45 +0100 | <oskarw> | realBeginner: If you want to broaden your way of thinking, than haskell certainly can do that |
| 2026-02-26 14:10:10 +0100 | misterfish | (~misterfis@31-161-39-137.biz.kpn.net) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 14:10:25 +0100 | <oskarw> | Also, do you like math? |
| 2026-02-26 14:13:14 +0100 | misterfish | (~misterfis@31-161-39-137.biz.kpn.net) misterfish |
| 2026-02-26 14:13:23 +0100 | <realBeginner> | I enjoy geometry |
| 2026-02-26 14:13:30 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-02-26 14:16:03 +0100 | <oskarw> | Actual geometry enjoyer |
| 2026-02-26 14:16:36 +0100 | <realBeginner> | The idea that there are infinitely many numbers between 0 and 1 is really amazing to me, I just enjoy thinking about these subjects. |
| 2026-02-26 14:17:06 +0100 | <oskarw> | Try out haskell, if you have any problems just ask here. Here is haskell study guide I can recommend https://github.com/soupi/haskell-study-plan |
| 2026-02-26 14:17:43 +0100 | <ski> | @where CIS194 |
| 2026-02-26 14:17:44 +0100 | <lambdabot> | <https://github.com/byorgey/haskell-course>,<https://www.seas.upenn.edu/~cis194/spring13/lectures.html> |
| 2026-02-26 14:18:00 +0100 | <ski> | a textbook might also be nice |
| 2026-02-26 14:19:56 +0100 | <realBeginner> | My distro is Arch‑based; is that okay, or should I choose another distro that supports Haskell? |
| 2026-02-26 14:20:33 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's fine if you ignore their packages and use ghcup |
| 2026-02-26 14:20:57 +0100 | <geekosaur> | just remember that, on any distro, their language packages support their needs, not yours |
| 2026-02-26 14:21:40 +0100 | <geekosaur> | for something like C or C++ there's enough overlap not to be a problem, but there's a reason why other languages always tell you to use their installers and/or sandboxes |
| 2026-02-26 14:22:31 +0100 | realBeginner | (~realBegin@164.215.171.125) (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) |
| 2026-02-26 14:22:36 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) |
| 2026-02-26 14:23:45 +0100 | <Clint> | it's not always a good reason ;P |
| 2026-02-26 14:23:47 +0100 | haritz | (~hrtz@2a01:4b00:bc2e:7000:d5af:a266:ca31:5ef8) |
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| 2026-02-26 14:33:34 +0100 | realBeginner | (~realBegin@164.215.171.125) |
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| 2026-02-26 14:34:21 +0100 | califax_ | califax |
| 2026-02-26 14:38:39 +0100 | tusko | (~uwu@user/tusko) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-02-26 14:38:53 +0100 | tusko | (~uwu@user/tusko) tusko |
| 2026-02-26 14:42:31 +0100 | Googulator12 | Googulator |
| 2026-02-26 14:46:09 +0100 | skinkitten | (~skinkitte@user/skinkitten) skinkitten |
| 2026-02-26 14:48:30 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) |
| 2026-02-26 14:50:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> the main reason is that distros rarely follow upstream development and are stuck with buggy and vulnerable GHC versions |
| 2026-02-26 14:51:05 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> Fedora is maybe an exception, because Jens is maintaining Haskell there |
| 2026-02-26 14:51:25 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> can't be bothered to contribute to 10 different linux distros |
| 2026-02-26 14:52:22 +0100 | <__monty__> | NixOS is another exception. |
| 2026-02-26 14:52:55 +0100 | <newmind> | nixos has easy-mode when it comes to dependency management for applications |
| 2026-02-26 14:53:00 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 14:53:35 +0100 | <newmind> | has a lot of other complications, but making sure something works even if dependencies can conflict, that's what it's good at |
| 2026-02-26 14:54:58 +0100 | Pozyomka | (~pyon@user/pyon) (Quit: brb) |
| 2026-02-26 14:56:48 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) |
| 2026-02-26 14:58:11 +0100 | <merijn> | oskarw: Haskell Programming from First Principles |
| 2026-02-26 15:00:48 +0100 | trueBeginner | (~trueBegin@164.215.171.125) |
| 2026-02-26 15:00:49 +0100 | <oskarw> | merijn: Its good book |
| 2026-02-26 15:00:56 +0100 | <oskarw> | *It's |
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| 2026-02-26 16:32:35 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) (Quit: https://ineedsomeacidtocalmmedown.space/) |
| 2026-02-26 16:32:50 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:7955:9591:6018:7ef9) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2026-02-26 16:33:31 +0100 | GdeVolpi1 | (~GdeVolpia@user/GdeVolpiano) (Quit: WeeChat 4.7.2) |
| 2026-02-26 16:33:48 +0100 | GdeVolpiano | (~GdeVolpia@user/GdeVolpiano) GdeVolpiano |
| 2026-02-26 16:34:45 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
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| 2026-02-26 16:36:04 +0100 | <chromoblob> | get on a channel about Haskell, get recommended Haskell. 🙄 |
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| 2026-02-26 16:37:47 +0100 | GdeVolpiano | (~GdeVolpia@user/GdeVolpiano) GdeVolpiano |
| 2026-02-26 16:38:53 +0100 | <int-e> | . o O ( write 1 in the chat if you agree that this is a completely objective and unbiased recommendation ) |
| 2026-02-26 16:42:32 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) |
| 2026-02-26 16:45:35 +0100 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) (Quit: Bye!) |
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| 2026-02-26 16:54:54 +0100 | Square3 | (~Square@user/square) Square |
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| 2026-02-26 16:56:17 +0100 | Square3 | (~Square@user/square) Square |
| 2026-02-26 16:56:35 +0100 | kuribas | (~user@ip-188-118-57-242.reverse.destiny.be) kuribas |
| 2026-02-26 16:58:50 +0100 | <chromoblob> | 0... |
| 2026-02-26 16:59:12 +0100 | m_a_r_k | (~m_a_r_k@archlinux/support/mark) m_a_r_k |
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| 2026-02-26 17:07:14 +0100 | <__monty__> | Was the drama about the co-author of HPFFP not being fairly remunerated ever resolved? |
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| 2026-02-26 17:15:25 +0100 | A_Dragon | gAy_Dragon |
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| 2026-02-26 17:43:02 +0100 | <merijn> | __monty__: Not afaik |
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| 2026-02-26 18:14:14 +0100 | <oskarw> | chromoblob: Tbh I don't know which language is better than haskell for "I love learning how to think and enjoy making complex things easier to do." |
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| 2026-02-26 18:36:36 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> The APL family, forths, and maybe smalltalk, isn't it |
| 2026-02-26 18:36:51 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) (Quit: https://ineedsomeacidtocalmmedown.space/) |
| 2026-02-26 18:37:35 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> oops, I was hoping that would show the replied-to: "Which languages are the most consistent..." |
| 2026-02-26 18:39:28 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 18:40:25 +0100 | <darkling> | Forths are all over the place, because everyone implements their own. :) |
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| 2026-02-26 18:50:12 +0100 | <oskarw> | scheme is also cool |
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| 2026-02-26 19:34:34 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@62.45.136.136) merijn |
| 2026-02-26 19:35:13 +0100 | <fgarcia> | i wanted a language i could kind of do reverse polish notation in. then i found haskell with a lot of cooler stuff |
| 2026-02-26 19:36:14 +0100 | <fgarcia> | it's kind of funny to see people getting excited over languages getting new features and i am thinking that haskell did it before |
| 2026-02-26 19:37:30 +0100 | tjbc | (~tjbc@user/fliife) fliife |
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| 2026-02-26 19:40:05 +0100 | <dolio> | That's been like the past 20 years at least. |
| 2026-02-26 19:40:34 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) |
| 2026-02-26 19:40:43 +0100 | <dolio> | Combined with, 'most languages can't have those features because everyone's head would explode.' |
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| 2026-02-26 19:48:40 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@62.45.136.136) merijn |
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| 2026-02-26 19:51:02 +0100 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d183:2302:b0c5:8965:1c3f:d560) dtman34 |
| 2026-02-26 19:53:03 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) (Quit: https://ineedsomeacidtocalmmedown.space/) |
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| 2026-02-26 19:57:55 +0100 | rncwnd | (~quassel@2a01:4f8:221:27c6::1) (Quit: Later) |
| 2026-02-26 19:58:47 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) |
| 2026-02-26 19:59:02 +0100 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d183:2302:b0c5:8965:1c3f:d560) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2026-02-26 19:59:13 +0100 | dtman34_ | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) dtman34 |
| 2026-02-26 20:02:31 +0100 | <ethan1> | fgarcia: forth also does rpn |
| 2026-02-26 20:02:34 +0100 | <ethan1> | if you're interested |
| 2026-02-26 20:02:42 +0100 | <ethan1> | oh it was already mentioned |
| 2026-02-26 20:02:44 +0100 | <ethan1> | nvm |
| 2026-02-26 20:03:05 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 20:03:24 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) housemate |
| 2026-02-26 20:03:50 +0100 | <newmind> | isn't forth basically RPN-the-programming-language? |
| 2026-02-26 20:04:12 +0100 | <ethan1> | well....kinda? |
| 2026-02-26 20:04:24 +0100 | <ethan1> | it's just how the math operators work |
| 2026-02-26 20:04:27 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-02-26 20:04:39 +0100 | <ethan1> | you don't have to do everything in RPN |
| 2026-02-26 20:06:46 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) |
| 2026-02-26 20:07:23 +0100 | <ethan1> | nvm i thought RPN was exclusively tied to math for some reason |
| 2026-02-26 20:07:33 +0100 | <ethan1> | everything is postfix |
| 2026-02-26 20:09:00 +0100 | earthy | (~arthurvl@2a02-a469-f5e2-1-83d2-ca43-57a2-dc81.fixed6.kpn.net) (Quit: ein reboot macht gut) |
| 2026-02-26 20:09:18 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 20:09:51 +0100 | morj_away | (~morj@user/morj) morj |
| 2026-02-26 20:09:54 +0100 | rncwnd | (~quassel@2a01:4f8:221:27c6::1) |
| 2026-02-26 20:11:26 +0100 | arthurvl | (~arthurvl@2a02-a469-f5e2-1-83d2-ca43-57a2-dc81.fixed6.kpn.net) earthy |
| 2026-02-26 20:16:36 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) (Quit: https://ineedsomeacidtocalmmedown.space/) |
| 2026-02-26 20:17:06 +0100 | tales | (~tales@149.167.1.176) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 20:19:32 +0100 | stackdroid18 | (~stackdroi@user/stackdroid) stackdroid |
| 2026-02-26 20:19:42 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:7955:9591:6018:7ef9) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2026-02-26 20:19:47 +0100 | rainbyte | (~rainbyte@186.22.19.214) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-02-26 20:19:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-02-26 20:20:23 +0100 | rainbyte | (~rainbyte@186.22.19.214) rainbyte |