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2025-12-12 00:00:30 +0100jmcantrell_jmcantrell
2025-12-12 00:02:12 +0100emmanuelux(~emmanuelu@user/emmanuelux) emmanuelux
2025-12-12 00:03:01 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2025-12-12 00:04:06 +0100gmg(~user@user/gehmehgeh) gehmehgeh
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2025-12-12 00:12:33 +0100yin(~zero@user/zero) zero
2025-12-12 00:14:01 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-12-12 00:18:31 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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2025-12-12 00:30:51 +0100haskellbridge(~hackager@96.28.224.214) hackager
2025-12-12 00:30:51 +0100ChanServ+v haskellbridge
2025-12-12 00:33:37 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-12-12 00:34:12 +0100tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:dd4:56d:fd02:60e2) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
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2025-12-12 00:39:50 +0100Pozyomka(~pyon@user/pyon) (Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1)
2025-12-12 00:40:42 +0100Pozyomka(~pyon@user/pyon) pyon
2025-12-12 00:44:43 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-12-12 00:49:19 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 00:53:18 +0100ljdarj(~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2025-12-12 00:56:24 +0100CiaoSen(~Jura@2a02:8071:64e1:da0:5a47:caff:fe78:33db) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-12-12 01:00:30 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-12-12 01:16:13 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 01:22:35 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 01:34:16 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 01:36:04 +0100tjbc(~tjbc@user/fliife) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-12-12 01:38:55 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 01:45:42 +0100Googulator9(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-12-12 01:45:50 +0100Googulator42(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-12-12 01:49:57 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 01:51:21 +0100tjbc(~tjbc@user/fliife) fliife
2025-12-12 01:53:56 +0100__monty__(~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: leaving)
2025-12-12 01:55:10 +0100trickard(~trickard@cpe-83-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-12-12 01:55:13 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-12-12 01:55:24 +0100trickard_(~trickard@cpe-83-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
2025-12-12 02:05:13 +0100xff0x(~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:bfb6:36fd:6718:66b7) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-12-12 02:05:45 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 02:10:15 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 02:15:42 +0100Googulator42(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-12-12 02:15:44 +0100Googulator25(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-12-12 02:18:16 +0100trickard_trickard
2025-12-12 02:21:04 +0100Square2(~Square@user/square) Square
2025-12-12 02:21:32 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 02:23:51 +0100iqubic(~sophia@2601:602:9203:1660:c86e:69df:f359:9bd7) iqubic
2025-12-12 02:24:15 +0100Square(~Square4@user/square) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 02:24:40 +0100divlamir(~divlamir@user/divlamir) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-12-12 02:24:53 +0100divlamir(~divlamir@user/divlamir) divlamir
2025-12-12 02:26:25 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-12-12 02:26:43 +0100Tuplanolla(~Tuplanoll@91-152-225-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Quit: Leaving.)
2025-12-12 02:29:52 +0100acidjnk(~acidjnk@p200300d6e717192391252480cf04477b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-12-12 02:33:24 +0100omidmash1(~omidmash@user/omidmash) omidmash
2025-12-12 02:34:55 +0100omidmash(~omidmash@user/omidmash) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 02:34:56 +0100omidmash1omidmash
2025-12-12 02:37:20 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 02:42:09 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-12-12 02:45:34 +0100tt123160(~tt1231@2603:6010:8700:4a81:a4f6:acff:fe95:3803) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-12-12 02:45:37 +0100Googulator25(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-12-12 02:45:40 +0100Googulator41(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-12-12 02:53:07 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 02:57:55 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 03:03:15 +0100Square2(~Square@user/square) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 03:08:55 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 03:11:04 +0100xff0x(~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp)
2025-12-12 03:13:43 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 03:19:57 +0100tt123160(~tt1231@2603:6010:8700:4a81:a4f6:acff:fe95:3803) tt1231
2025-12-12 03:23:43 +0100vanishingideal(~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-12-12 03:24:41 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 03:25:37 +0100vanishingideal(~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) vanishingideal
2025-12-12 03:30:01 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-12-12 03:40:29 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 03:45:37 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-12-12 03:45:56 +0100Googulator45(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-12-12 03:46:13 +0100Googulator41(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-12-12 03:46:40 +0100pointlessslippe-(~pointless@62.106.85.17) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-12-12 03:49:02 +0100pointlessslippe1(~pointless@62.106.85.17) pointlessslippe1
2025-12-12 03:55:47 +0100poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-12-12 03:56:01 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 03:57:57 +0100deptype(~deptype@2406:b400:3a:9d2f:23b7:e1a3:7fe:1a22)
2025-12-12 03:58:53 +0100poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) poscat
2025-12-12 04:00:49 +0100karenw(~karenw@user/karenw) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-12-12 04:02:35 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 04:14:04 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 04:14:49 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-12-12 04:15:58 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0
2025-12-12 04:18:35 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 04:29:54 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 04:30:01 +0100machinedgod(~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-12-12 04:32:35 +0100monochrom(trebla@216.138.220.146) (Quit: ZNC 1.9.1+deb2build5 - https://znc.in)
2025-12-12 04:34:25 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-12-12 04:40:55 +0100monochrom(trebla@216.138.220.146)
2025-12-12 04:45:32 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 04:45:49 +0100Googulator78(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-12-12 04:45:57 +0100Googulator45(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-12-12 04:50:17 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-12-12 04:56:31 +0100AlexNoo_(~AlexNoo@94.233.240.243)
2025-12-12 04:59:05 +0100AlexZenon(~alzenon@85.174.180.40) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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2025-12-12 04:59:40 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net)
2025-12-12 05:01:17 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 05:03:11 +0100AlexZenon(~alzenon@94.233.240.243)
2025-12-12 05:03:49 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-12-12 05:05:10 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) peterbecich
2025-12-12 05:05:55 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-12-12 05:17:02 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 05:20:50 +0100Googulator78(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-12-12 05:21:03 +0100Googulator78(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-12-12 05:22:31 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-12-12 05:31:15 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect
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2025-12-12 05:32:51 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 05:36:18 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net)
2025-12-12 05:37:24 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-12-12 05:37:52 +0100Pozyomka(~pyon@user/pyon) (Quit: brb)
2025-12-12 05:38:11 +0100Pozyomka(~pyon@user/pyon) pyon
2025-12-12 05:41:01 +0100rekahsoft(~rekahsoft@70.51.99.245) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-12-12 05:48:38 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 05:53:52 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-12-12 05:54:01 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-12-12 05:54:08 +0100sp1ff(~user@2601:1c2:4c00:6820::c593) sp1ff
2025-12-12 05:56:46 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-12-12 05:57:20 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0
2025-12-12 05:57:31 +0100Pozyomka(~pyon@user/pyon) (Quit: brb)
2025-12-12 05:59:12 +0100Pozyomka(~pyon@user/pyon) pyon
2025-12-12 06:04:26 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 06:09:16 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-12-12 06:13:13 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Quit: Leaving...)
2025-12-12 06:20:41 +0100Googulator78(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-12-12 06:20:45 +0100Googulator82(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-12-12 06:21:13 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 06:25:35 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 06:25:42 +0100bitdex(~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex
2025-12-12 06:32:34 +0100bggd_(~bgg@2a01:e0a:fd5:f510:6dea:c12d:7938:d990)
2025-12-12 06:34:55 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 06:35:41 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0
2025-12-12 06:36:36 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 06:43:15 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 06:44:55 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) peterbecich
2025-12-12 06:50:42 +0100Googulator66(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-12-12 06:50:48 +0100Googulator82(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-12-12 06:51:58 +0100michalz(~michalz@185.246.207.201)
2025-12-12 06:54:39 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 06:58:44 +0100Pozyomka(~pyon@user/pyon) (Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1)
2025-12-12 07:01:29 +0100Pozyomka(~pyon@user/pyon) pyon
2025-12-12 07:01:48 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2025-12-12 07:06:04 +0100takuan(~takuan@d8D86B9E9.access.telenet.be)
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2025-12-12 07:25:55 +0100Pixi(~Pixi@user/pixi) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 07:27:58 +0100Pixi(~Pixi@user/pixi) Pixi
2025-12-12 07:28:52 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-12-12 07:29:18 +0100chromoblob(~chromoblo@user/chromob1ot1c) chromoblob\0
2025-12-12 07:38:12 +0100jmcantrell(~weechat@user/jmcantrell) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-12-12 07:50:44 +0100Googulator66(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-12-12 07:50:52 +0100Googulator66(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-12-12 07:56:37 +0100tomboy64(~tomboy64@user/tomboy64) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2025-12-12 07:58:11 +0100tomboy64(~tomboy64@user/tomboy64) tomboy64
2025-12-12 08:00:26 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) peterbecich
2025-12-12 08:12:01 +0100Enrico63(~Enrico63@host-95-251-99-143.retail.telecomitalia.it) Enrico63
2025-12-12 08:20:36 +0100ft(~ft@p508db844.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: leaving)
2025-12-12 08:20:46 +0100Googulator4(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-12-12 08:21:03 +0100Googulator66(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-01cb-8583-2a78-a55c-bee5.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-12-12 08:26:48 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 08:31:19 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-12-12 08:37:00 +0100marinelli(~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/marinelli) (Quit: marinelli)
2025-12-12 08:41:56 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 08:46:24 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-12-12 08:52:34 +0100sord937(~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) sord937
2025-12-12 08:56:46 +0100Enrico63(~Enrico63@host-95-251-99-143.retail.telecomitalia.it) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-12-12 08:57:33 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-12-12 09:00:40 +0100peutri_(~peutri@bobo.desast.re) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2025-12-12 09:02:36 +0100Sgeo(~Sgeo@user/sgeo) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-12-12 09:03:01 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-12-12 09:08:50 +0100trickard(~trickard@cpe-83-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-12-12 09:09:04 +0100trickard_(~trickard@cpe-83-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
2025-12-12 09:11:00 +0100Googulator4Googulator
2025-12-12 09:11:56 +0100peutri(~peutri@bobo.desast.re) peutri
2025-12-12 09:13:19 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-12-12 11:38:15 +0100 <gentauro> related xD https://xkcd.com/2453/
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2025-12-12 12:00:40 +0100Enrico63(~Enrico63@host-95-251-99-143.retail.telecomitalia.it) Enrico63
2025-12-12 12:02:07 +0100 <Enrico63> Hi, there. I'd like some clarification on rank-n types.
2025-12-12 12:02:08 +0100 <Enrico63> The id function has type `forall a. a -> a` which is rank 1, right?
2025-12-12 12:03:53 +0100 <lucabtz> yes rank 1
2025-12-12 12:05:25 +0100 <Enrico63> Instead, if I have `(forall a. a -> a) -> b`, that's rank 2, right?
2025-12-12 12:05:37 +0100 <Enrico63> (Be damned the formatting, ahhah)
2025-12-12 12:06:02 +0100 <Enrico63> Well, that's the same as `forall b. (forall a. a -> a) -> b`
2025-12-12 12:06:09 +0100 <Enrico63> It is rank 2, correct?
2025-12-12 12:07:01 +0100 <mauke> https://wiki.haskell.org/Rank-N_types
2025-12-12 12:07:52 +0100 <Enrico63> I come _from_ that page
2025-12-12 12:08:52 +0100 <mauke> well, it's what I would've used to answer your question :-)
2025-12-12 12:09:41 +0100 <Enrico63> Yeah, I don't quite get what's unclear to me, so I asked those previous questions to have something to hinge on
2025-12-12 12:10:10 +0100 <mauke> (the answer is yes)
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2025-12-12 12:12:08 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> I personally found the trick to understanding rank-n is that they're about polymorphic functions that can take other polymorphic functions.
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2025-12-12 12:12:37 +0100 <Enrico63> loonycyborg, yeah, I'm also (halfway) there
2025-12-12 12:12:39 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> With rank 1 all variables are set at outer scope and you won't be passing any polymorphic functions.
2025-12-12 12:13:44 +0100 <Enrico63> Whereas rank 2 means that the implementation (i.e. the inner scope) chooses the type variable of the inner forall
2025-12-12 12:15:05 +0100 <Enrico63> I kind of get that. I suppose I want to do a quiz to make sure I have truly understood, rather than memoized some patterns
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2025-12-12 12:16:06 +0100 <lucabtz> i think rank N means it has rank N-1 as its arguments, the base case rank 0 being a monomorphic value/function
2025-12-12 12:16:30 +0100 <mauke> forall b. ((forall a. a -> b) -> b) -> b
2025-12-12 12:16:59 +0100 <mauke> is that rank-2?
2025-12-12 12:17:12 +0100 <Enrico63> mauke, that is rank 3?
2025-12-12 12:17:20 +0100 <mauke> according to the wiki page, it's rank 2
2025-12-12 12:18:04 +0100 <Enrico63> Umpf
2025-12-12 12:18:21 +0100 <mauke> but then, according to that page (forall a. a) -> Int is rank 1
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2025-12-12 12:18:40 +0100 <mauke> this doesn't feel right
2025-12-12 12:18:53 +0100 <Enrico63> Yeah, how's that? `Int -> Int` is rank 0, right?
2025-12-12 12:19:07 +0100 <Enrico63> `forall a. a -> a` (e.g. the type of id) is rank 1
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2025-12-12 12:19:41 +0100 <Enrico63> and the caller "chooses" the `a`
2025-12-12 12:20:26 +0100 <Enrico63> then in `(forall a. a -> a) -> b`, where there's an implicit `forall b.` in front of everyting, b is chosen by the caller, but a is chosen by the implementation
2025-12-12 12:20:59 +0100 <Enrico63> so that means `(forall a. a -> a) -> b` is rank 2, to my understanding. How is `(forall a. a) -> Int` any different in this respect?
2025-12-12 12:21:21 +0100 <mauke> the wiki page defines "rank" as the number of foralls in the type
2025-12-12 12:22:31 +0100 <lucabtz> mauke: it doesnt though, it says forall a. a -> (forall b. b -> a) is rank 1
2025-12-12 12:22:31 +0100 <Enrico63> *which are nested and cannot be merged with a previous one*
2025-12-12 12:22:53 +0100 <mauke> lucabtz: that one is mergeable
2025-12-12 12:23:08 +0100 <lucabtz> yeah you were missing what Enrico63 added :P
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2025-12-12 12:23:33 +0100 <mauke> that still leaves (forall a. a) -> Int at rank 1
2025-12-12 12:23:47 +0100 <Enrico63> It should be rank 2, I understand
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2025-12-12 12:25:31 +0100 <Enrico63> For instance, this compiles
2025-12-12 12:25:31 +0100 <Enrico63> foo :: (forall a. a) -> Int
2025-12-12 12:25:32 +0100 <Enrico63> foo x = x + 1
2025-12-12 12:26:10 +0100 <Enrico63> which means that the implementation of foo is choosing a=Int, which could not be the case if foo was rank 1, because the caller would choose a.
2025-12-12 12:26:11 +0100 <Enrico63> No?
2025-12-12 12:28:10 +0100 <Enrico63> Anyway, going to the exercises I found on the book "Thinking with Types" that I'm reading, `Int -> forall a. a -> a` is rank 1, correct?
2025-12-12 12:30:52 +0100 <mauke> this looks much better: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22362196/what-is-n-in-rankntypes
2025-12-12 12:31:19 +0100 <mauke> Enrico63: yes, that's a H98 type (by floating out the forall)
2025-12-12 12:31:28 +0100 <merijn> Enrico63: This is the clearest example of Rank1 vs RankN I cooked up a few years ago: https://gist.github.com/merijn/77e3fa9757658e59b01d
2025-12-12 12:32:20 +0100 <mauke> yeah, when I search for "rank-n type", most results are examples like ^
2025-12-12 12:32:33 +0100 <mauke> which is useless if I want to know the actual definition of "rank"
2025-12-12 12:32:43 +0100pabs3(~pabs3@user/pabs3) pabs3
2025-12-12 12:32:46 +0100 <merijn> sure
2025-12-12 12:32:58 +0100 <mauke> the SO page I found is better, but includes two incompatible answers :-)
2025-12-12 12:33:18 +0100 <merijn> then again, in practice there's very little value in knowing the exact rank of a type :p
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2025-12-12 12:33:37 +0100 <merijn> In practice the value is understanding "why does this not compile and how can I make it do what I want" :p
2025-12-12 12:34:01 +0100 <merijn> Especially since GHC doesn't even distinguish between Rank2 and RankN
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2025-12-12 13:35:24 +0100 <lucabtz> isnt the definition as rank N has as parameters rank N-1 types correct?
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