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2025-11-07 00:00:04 +0100Zemy(~Zemy@2600:100c:b021:2c99:34f5:91ff:fe7f:6e5b)
2025-11-07 00:00:39 +0100Zemy_(~Zemy@24-155-2-226.static.grandenetworks.net)
2025-11-07 00:00:42 +0100Zemy(~Zemy@2600:100c:b021:2c99:34f5:91ff:fe7f:6e5b) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-11-07 00:00:58 +0100Zemy(~Zemy@2600:100c:b021:2c99:a49a:c7ff:fe57:7568)
2025-11-07 00:01:12 +0100Core4520(~Zemy@2600:100c:b021:2c99:e8ef:cdff:fefd:214c) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-11-07 00:04:07 +0100CiaoSen(~Jura@2a02:8071:64e1:da0:5a47:caff:fe78:33db) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-11-07 00:04:34 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-11-07 00:04:54 +0100Zemy_(~Zemy@24-155-2-226.static.grandenetworks.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-11-07 00:05:20 +0100Fijxu_(~Fijxu@user/fijxu) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2025-11-07 00:08:46 +0100Fijxu(~Fijxu@user/fijxu) fijxu
2025-11-07 00:13:08 +0100Tuplanolla(~Tuplanoll@91-159-187-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Quit: Leaving.)
2025-11-07 00:13:09 +0100tcard_(~tcard@2400:4051:5801:7500:cf17:befc:ff82:5303) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-11-07 00:13:41 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 00:14:13 +0100Zemy_(~Zemy@mobile-107-80-206-18.mycingular.net)
2025-11-07 00:15:11 +0100Zemy(~Zemy@2600:100c:b021:2c99:a49a:c7ff:fe57:7568) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-11-07 00:15:31 +0100Zemy(~Zemy@2600:100c:b021:2c99:3c31:bff:fe68:9247)
2025-11-07 00:16:02 +0100 <monochrom> dolio: Haha I didn't think of that.
2025-11-07 00:18:42 +0100Zemy_(~Zemy@mobile-107-80-206-18.mycingular.net) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-11-07 00:20:16 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-11-07 00:30:23 +0100Zemy_(~Zemy@72.178.108.235)
2025-11-07 00:30:49 +0100emmanuelux(~emmanuelu@user/emmanuelux) emmanuelux
2025-11-07 00:31:45 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 00:33:52 +0100Zemy(~Zemy@2600:100c:b021:2c99:3c31:bff:fe68:9247) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-11-07 00:36:27 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2025-11-07 00:41:02 +0100trickard_(~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-11-07 00:43:16 +0100Googulator99Googulator
2025-11-07 00:43:23 +0100trickard_(~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
2025-11-07 00:43:59 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect
2025-11-07 00:47:31 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 00:49:06 +0100tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:d577:2751:e380:cb37) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2025-11-07 00:52:16 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2025-11-07 00:53:32 +0100tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:d577:2751:e380:cb37)
2025-11-07 00:57:56 +0100Square3(~Square@user/square) Square
2025-11-07 01:00:10 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 01:02:07 +0100Square2(~Square4@user/square) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-11-07 01:02:09 +0100humasect(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-11-07 01:04:28 +0100tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:d577:2751:e380:cb37) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2025-11-07 01:05:25 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-11-07 01:11:07 +0100annamalai(~annamalai@157.32.112.75) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-11-07 01:14:42 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 01:19:28 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-11-07 01:19:35 +0100trickard_trickard
2025-11-07 01:30:08 +0100jmcantrell(~weechat@user/jmcantrell) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-11-07 01:30:30 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 01:35:17 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-11-07 01:40:12 +0100variant(~variant@136.61.39.172)
2025-11-07 01:44:49 +0100xff0x(~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:c1bd:3ff8:8b46:e15a) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-11-07 01:46:18 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 01:47:28 +0100acidjnk(~acidjnk@p200300d6e717199501855715c4be6f96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-11-07 01:51:10 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2025-11-07 01:51:11 +0100 <monochrom> NamedFieldPuns doesn't allow me to write like "f Ctor{field@pattern} = ...". :(
2025-11-07 01:51:31 +0100 <monochrom> It's OK, I resorted to "f Ctor{field=field@pattern} = ..." :)
2025-11-07 01:55:31 +0100pabs3(~pabs3@user/pabs3) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-11-07 01:56:57 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) peterbecich
2025-11-07 02:02:03 +0100Lycurgus(~juan@user/Lycurgus) (Quit: alsoknownas.renjuan.org ( juan@acm.org ))
2025-11-07 02:02:04 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 02:07:18 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-11-07 02:08:17 +0100pabs3(~pabs3@user/pabs3) pabs3
2025-11-07 02:09:17 +0100otto_s(~user@p4ff27ba5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
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2025-11-07 02:17:52 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-07 02:25:24 +0100ttybitnik(~ttybitnik@user/wolper) (Quit: Fading out...)
2025-11-07 02:33:41 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 02:34:15 +0100Square2(~Square4@user/square) Square
2025-11-07 02:36:37 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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2025-11-07 02:49:26 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-07 02:55:43 +0100poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-11-07 02:58:11 +0100ubert1(~Thunderbi@178.165.182.105.wireless.dyn.drei.com) ubert
2025-11-07 02:58:48 +0100poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) poscat
2025-11-07 02:59:25 +0100trickard__(~trickard@cpe-57-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
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2025-11-07 03:00:16 +0100ubert(~Thunderbi@178.165.186.48.wireless.dyn.drei.com) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
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2025-11-07 03:05:09 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 03:07:34 +0100Googulator64(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-11-07 03:08:30 +0100Nachtgespenst(~user@user/siracusa) siracusa
2025-11-07 03:10:35 +0100qqe(~qqq@185.54.21.203)
2025-11-07 03:10:35 +0100Googulator64(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Client Quit)
2025-11-07 03:10:40 +0100Googulator76(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-11-07 03:10:57 +0100dtman34(~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2025-11-07 03:11:01 +0100Googulator(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2025-11-07 03:11:49 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-11-07 03:14:00 +0100haltingsolver(~cmo@2604:3d09:207f:8000::d1dc) (Remote host closed the connection)
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2025-11-07 03:14:41 +0100bggd(~bgg@2a01:e0a:819:1510:488d:f1b1:72a6:5bef)
2025-11-07 03:17:05 +0100variant(~variant@136.61.39.172) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2025-11-07 03:23:12 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 03:26:32 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-11-07 03:28:17 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-11-07 03:30:34 +0100qqe(~qqq@185.54.21.203) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2025-11-07 03:31:06 +0100synchrom1(~john@2406:5a00:2412:2c00:ad6b:d7bc:cf6f:605a) synchromesh
2025-11-07 03:33:55 +0100synchromesh(~john@2406:5a00:2412:2c00:752a:c037:4485:f417) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-11-07 03:38:58 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 03:39:49 +0100haltingsolver(~cmo@2604:3d09:207f:8000::d1dc) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-11-07 03:44:07 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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2025-11-07 03:59:20 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-11-07 04:00:46 +0100myxos(~myxos@2001:579:8380:f20:469a:adbb:d673:fb5b) myxokephale
2025-11-07 04:10:33 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 04:15:37 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-11-07 04:15:42 +0100Googulator62(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-11-07 04:15:42 +0100Googulator76(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-11-07 04:26:19 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 04:27:58 +0100connrs(~connrs@user/connrs) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-11-07 04:28:29 +0100connrs(~connrs@user/connrs) connrs
2025-11-07 04:31:22 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
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2025-11-07 04:34:38 +0100td_(~td@i53870901.versanet.de) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
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2025-11-07 04:40:18 +0100machinedgod(~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-11-07 04:42:07 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 04:42:51 +0100Square2(~Square4@user/square) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2025-11-07 04:44:16 +0100sam113101(~sam@modemcable200.189-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) (Quit: WeeChat 4.7.0)
2025-11-07 04:45:33 +0100sam113101(~sam@modemcable200.189-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) sam113101
2025-11-07 04:47:14 +0100anderson(anderson@user/anderson) anderson
2025-11-07 04:48:46 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-11-07 04:51:35 +0100haskellbridge(~hackager@96.28.224.214) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-11-07 04:52:21 +0100haskellbridge(~hackager@96.28.224.214) hackager
2025-11-07 04:52:21 +0100ChanServ+v haskellbridge
2025-11-07 04:57:44 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) peterbecich
2025-11-07 04:58:16 +0100annamalai(~annamalai@157.33.208.56) annamalai
2025-11-07 05:00:10 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 05:04:57 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-11-07 05:15:46 +0100Googulator55(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-11-07 05:15:46 +0100Googulator62(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-11-07 05:15:57 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 05:21:19 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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2025-11-07 05:37:00 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2025-11-07 05:45:44 +0100Googulator41(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-11-07 05:45:47 +0100Googulator55(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-11-07 05:48:06 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 05:52:55 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2025-11-07 05:58:15 +0100trickard(~trickard@cpe-57-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-11-07 05:58:29 +0100trickard_(~trickard@cpe-57-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
2025-11-07 06:00:36 +0100Googulator41(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
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2025-11-07 06:01:15 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 06:06:37 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-11-07 06:17:02 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 06:20:41 +0100Googulator75(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-11-07 06:20:44 +0100Googulator52(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-11-07 06:24:13 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-11-07 06:28:38 +0100weary-traveler(~user@user/user363627) user363627
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2025-11-07 06:35:06 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 06:39:43 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2025-11-07 06:50:52 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-07 07:00:42 +0100Googulator52(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-11-07 07:00:47 +0100Googulator78(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-11-07 07:06:40 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-07 07:15:23 +0100Googulator78(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-11-07 07:15:39 +0100Googulator78(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-11-07 07:19:49 +0100califax(~califax@user/califx) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-11-07 07:20:05 +0100califax(~califax@user/califx) califx
2025-11-07 07:22:28 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 07:27:08 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-11-07 07:29:25 +0100qqe(~qqq@185.54.21.203) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2025-11-07 07:33:49 +0100Googulator78(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed)
2025-11-07 07:34:02 +0100Googulator78(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu)
2025-11-07 07:35:34 +0100Googulator78(~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0180-d858-cbac-c845-1acf.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Client Quit)
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2025-11-07 07:38:10 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 07:38:35 +0100synchrom1(~john@2406:5a00:2412:2c00:ad6b:d7bc:cf6f:605a) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-11-07 07:39:46 +0100synchromesh(~john@2406:5a00:2412:2c00:ad6b:d7bc:cf6f:605a) synchromesh
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2025-11-07 10:47:45 +0100 <kuribas> Man, linter suggestions are sometimes plain bad: eta reduce lookup () x = Just x
2025-11-07 10:47:54 +0100 <kuribas> "lookup () = Just" is more obfuscated
2025-11-07 10:50:25 +0100 <kuribas> Is there a shorter way to say asum (map (\x -> ...maybe...) elems)
2025-11-07 10:50:34 +0100 <lortabac> the most annoying one for me is "Use newtype instead of data"
2025-11-07 10:50:47 +0100 <__monty__> Yeah, seems like personal preference to me.
2025-11-07 10:50:49 +0100 <lortabac> there is no way I can accidentally mix up newtype and data
2025-11-07 10:50:59 +0100 <lortabac> I don't see why this warning exists
2025-11-07 10:52:00 +0100 <__monty__> It's an optimization, I don't think single-constructor data has any advantages over newtype?
2025-11-07 10:52:17 +0100 <kuribas> lortabac: right, that one
2025-11-07 10:52:29 +0100 <kuribas> __monty__: yes, lazyness.
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2025-11-07 10:53:32 +0100 <Leary> kuribas: `find`
2025-11-07 10:54:20 +0100 <__monty__> Maybe it's a matter of reducing your use of the linting tool rather?
2025-11-07 10:55:15 +0100 <Leary> Also, linter defaults are just defaults. You're supposed to configure away the hints you don't care for.
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2025-11-07 10:56:50 +0100 <kuribas> :t find
2025-11-07 10:56:51 +0100 <lambdabot> Foldable t => (a -> Bool) -> t a -> Maybe a
2025-11-07 10:57:02 +0100 <__monty__> It's slightly annoying when you have to litter the codebase with comments to disable lints.
2025-11-07 10:57:16 +0100 <kuribas> Leary: find isJust ?
2025-11-07 10:57:49 +0100 <kuribas> Leary: but I'll still need to map.
2025-11-07 10:57:54 +0100 <lortabac> kuribas: listToMaybe (mapMaybe (\x -> ...) elems)
2025-11-07 10:57:58 +0100CiaoSen(~Jura@2a02:8071:64e1:da0:5a47:caff:fe78:33db) CiaoSen
2025-11-07 10:58:17 +0100 <lortabac> not shorter but a little less exotic than 'asum'
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2025-11-07 11:01:21 +0100 <Leary> :t \f -> getFirst . foldMap (First . f)
2025-11-07 11:01:22 +0100 <lambdabot> Foldable t => (a1 -> Maybe a2) -> t a1 -> Maybe a2
2025-11-07 11:02:37 +0100chele(~chele@user/chele) chele
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2025-11-07 11:02:48 +0100 <Leary> :t \f -> getAlt . foldMap (Alt . f)
2025-11-07 11:02:50 +0100 <lambdabot> forall k (t :: * -> *) (f :: k -> *) (a1 :: k) a2. (Foldable t, Monoid (Alt f a1)) => (a2 -> f a1) -> t a2 -> f a1
2025-11-07 11:03:34 +0100 <lortabac> I have the impression that I spend most of my life opting out of things. I wished stupid warnings wasn't part of that
2025-11-07 11:04:02 +0100 <kuribas> Sometimes I wonder if all these abstractions really make programs easier and more robust.
2025-11-07 11:04:06 +0100 <kuribas> It's mostly fun.
2025-11-07 11:04:29 +0100 <lortabac> maybe 90% fun and 10% effectiveness?
2025-11-07 11:04:41 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-11-07 11:05:43 +0100 <kuribas> THe biggest advantage IMO is ADTs, pattern matching, and purity...
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2025-11-07 11:10:18 +0100 <__monty__> :t \f -> foldr ((<|>) . f) empty -- Technically shorter, I suppose.
2025-11-07 11:10:19 +0100 <lambdabot> (Foldable t, Alternative f) => (a1 -> f a2) -> t a1 -> f a2
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2025-11-07 11:12:54 +0100 <__monty__> Relude has `asumMap`.
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2025-11-07 11:15:25 +0100 <__monty__> And none of the alternatives is actually shorter than `\f -> asum . map f`.
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2025-11-07 13:00:24 +0100 <dminuoso> 09:57:02 __monty__ │ It's slightly annoying when you have to litter the codebase with comments to disable lints.
2025-11-07 13:00:28 +0100 <dminuoso> Reconsider your life choices then.
2025-11-07 13:00:58 +0100 <dminuoso> It feels like some people have become mindless slaves to their linter, rather than just explicitly picking the things they want linting for.
2025-11-07 13:03:59 +0100 <__monty__> I'm talking about lints I want in general, just not in specific instances.
2025-11-07 13:05:22 +0100 <kuribas> dminuoso: you mean you do opt-in, rather than opt-out?
2025-11-07 13:06:05 +0100 <dminuoso> __monty__: Sure, cant you just disable/enable the things in some global linter config?
2025-11-07 13:06:36 +0100 <dminuoso> kuribas: It's slightly deeper than that. I'm just talking about a conscious choice.
2025-11-07 13:06:43 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-11-07 13:06:48 +0100 <dminuoso> Whether that is made implicitly in an opt-out fashion or opt-in is just irrelevant.
2025-11-07 13:07:33 +0100 <kuribas> Yeah, I don't like mindlessly accepting linter choices, even in Python, but my colleage thought me "picky" :)
2025-11-07 13:10:11 +0100 <dminuoso> Every time I meet people using linters they subject themselves to a linter out of some belief that "whatever the linter does" is just "best practices".
2025-11-07 13:10:35 +0100 <dminuoso> Immanuel Kant talked at great lengths about this in in his essay "What is enlightenment"
2025-11-07 13:10:57 +0100 <dminuoso> He just didn't know about linters back then, he surely would have included it had he known.
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2025-11-07 13:16:10 +0100 <kuribas> I am fine with a curated list decided by the team.
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2025-11-07 13:22:47 +0100 <lortabac> the fact that HLint is configurable doesn't make the defaults less bad
2025-11-07 13:23:33 +0100 <kuribas> agreed
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2025-11-07 13:30:42 +0100 <lortabac> There was an article about this but I can't find it anymore. It's a kind of fallacy where people who are expert about a field/tool tend to respond to criticism with "you are doing it the wrong way"
2025-11-07 13:31:47 +0100 <lortabac> which is the right answer of course, but sometimes it's also good to consider how to improve the tool
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2025-11-07 13:41:57 +0100 <__monty__> dminuoso: Most of my linting experience is with Pylint and no I don't know of a way to configure it from outside the source files. Don't really see a good way that'd be resilient to refactoring. Can't rely on line numbers for example but even function/method names can change.
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2025-11-07 14:36:25 +0100 <Square2> In ghci, why can I do `:info Maybe` but not `:info List`?
2025-11-07 14:37:21 +0100 <tomsmeding> because List does not exist?
2025-11-07 14:37:31 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> You can do ":info []"
2025-11-07 14:38:23 +0100 <tomsmeding> interesting:
2025-11-07 14:38:26 +0100 <tomsmeding> % :i []
2025-11-07 14:38:26 +0100 <yahb2> type List :: * -> * ; data List a = [] | a : [a] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Types’ ; instance Traversable [] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Internal.Data.Traversable’ ; instance MonadFail [] ; -- Defined in...
2025-11-07 14:38:36 +0100 <tomsmeding> turns out that since GHC 9.6, it prints `data List a` there
2025-11-07 14:38:36 +0100 <int-e> % import GHC.Types
2025-11-07 14:38:36 +0100 <yahb2> <no output>
2025-11-07 14:38:40 +0100 <int-e> % :i List
2025-11-07 14:38:40 +0100 <yahb2> type List :: * -> * ; data List a = [] | a : [a] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Types’ ; instance Traversable [] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Internal.Data.Traversable’ ; instance MonadFail [] ; -- Defined in...
2025-11-07 14:38:45 +0100 <int-e> see, it works ;-)
2025-11-07 14:38:59 +0100 <tomsmeding> then `:i []` is wrong, because the List should have been qualified
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2025-11-07 14:40:26 +0100 <tomsmeding> % :i Data.List.List
2025-11-07 14:40:26 +0100 <yahb2> type List :: * -> * ; data List a = [] | a : [a] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Types’ ; instance Traversable [] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Internal.Data.Traversable’ ; instance MonadFail [] ; -- Defined in...
2025-11-07 14:40:30 +0100 <tomsmeding> int-e: it's also in Data.List
2025-11-07 14:40:53 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Are there any libraries to help me write (mostly) the same code for sqlite and postgres? I know of persistent, but I don't really love it
2025-11-07 14:41:55 +0100 <Square2> int-e, nice. Thanks
2025-11-07 14:42:34 +0100 <int-e> tomsmeding: That's new... since 9.10? Odd.
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2025-11-07 14:44:23 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> My ghci 9.6 doesn't have Data.List.List indeed, but :i [] still refers to some 'List' from who knows where
2025-11-07 14:45:54 +0100 <tomsmeding> Morj: GHC.Types
2025-11-07 14:46:13 +0100 <tomsmeding> hm, 9.10 indeed
2025-11-07 14:50:10 +0100 <int-e> tomsmeding: it was a proposal here: https://github.com/haskell/core-libraries-committee/issues/182
2025-11-07 14:51:24 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Morj> GHC.Types.List exists indeed
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