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2025-03-27 00:00:05 +0100 <jle`> ah then i should probably file a report, i've run into two different ado related bugs recently i think
2025-03-27 00:00:33 +0100ChaiTRex(~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-03-27 00:00:41 +0100 <jle`> one using NamedFieldPuns/RecordWildCards and one with existential types/type abstractions
2025-03-27 00:00:56 +0100ChaiTRex(~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex
2025-03-27 00:01:14 +0100malte(~malte@mal.tc) malte
2025-03-27 00:03:07 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-03-27 00:03:34 +0100 <jle`> i have been getting around it by manually >>=-ing at the points that cause issues
2025-03-27 00:03:53 +0100 <jle`> at the cost of a layer of indentation :')
2025-03-27 00:05:59 +0100Sgeo(~Sgeo@user/sgeo) Sgeo
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2025-03-27 00:39:35 +0100 <yin> did i dream that we could turn off if ... then ... else syntax?
2025-03-27 00:40:35 +0100 <yin> or was it an april's fool joke?
2025-03-27 00:40:48 +0100 <geekosaur> you dreamed it, I think. maybe you were thinking of RebindableSyntax translating it into a user-supplied ifThenElse function?
2025-03-27 00:41:02 +0100Miroboru(~myrvoll@178-164-114.82.3p.ntebredband.no) Miroboru
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2025-03-27 00:48:45 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> I get why one would want to rebind it, but why removing it? yin
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2025-03-27 00:58:52 +0100 <yin> just purism
2025-03-27 01:00:02 +0100 <yin> syntactic sugar allergy
2025-03-27 01:00:20 +0100L29Ah(~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-03-27 01:04:21 +0100 <geekosaur> you're going to have to delete most of Haskell if you don't like syntactic sugar. even standard Haskell is full of it
2025-03-27 01:04:39 +0100 <yin> True
2025-03-27 01:05:28 +0100 <jackdk> yin: you mean `\a b -> a`
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2025-03-27 01:06:41 +0100 <yin> jackdk: const?
2025-03-27 01:07:14 +0100 <yin> or "anonymous lambdas" in general?
2025-03-27 01:07:18 +0100 <jackdk> Desugaring `True` into a Church-encoded boolean, and making the tongue-in-cheek claim that even algebraic data types are syntactic sugar
2025-03-27 01:07:27 +0100 <yin> ah i see
2025-03-27 01:08:14 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-03-27 01:09:09 +0100 <jackdk> At which point you can get rid of `if..then..else` expressions by directly applying the "then" and the "else" directly to your Church boolean and letting it pick which one to return
2025-03-27 01:09:29 +0100aetepe(~aetepe@46.154.235.16) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-03-27 01:09:35 +0100 <yin> jackdk: if you go down that route you'll have interesting discussions with the type system when you get into things like the Y combinator
2025-03-27 01:10:16 +0100 <geekosaur> you're going to have interesting discussions with it about the Y combinator anyway 🙂
2025-03-27 01:10:20 +0100aetepe(~aetepe@46.154.235.16) aetepe
2025-03-27 01:11:30 +0100 <yin> jackdk: if = id -- ;)
2025-03-27 01:11:52 +0100 <yin> geekosaur: not False
2025-03-27 01:12:03 +0100jackdkadds `if` to the pile of things that are secretly `id`
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