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2026-04-16 00:56:53 +0000drbean(~drbean@softbank126022010209.bbtec.net) owuser
2026-04-16 00:58:01 +0000 <drbean> I can't find a URL to download the 'cabal update' list of packages.
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2026-04-16 00:58:59 +0000 <drbean> Presumably https://hackage.haskell.org/something
2026-04-16 00:59:01 +0000humasect_(~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect
2026-04-16 01:00:22 +0000 <drbean> I know! I'll go to https://hackage.haskell.org/cabal-install
2026-04-16 01:02:32 +0000 <drbean> Something is broken in the ghcup toolchain.
2026-04-16 01:02:51 +0000 <drbean> On Windows 10.
2026-04-16 01:03:43 +0000 <drbean> Rarely with ghcup and now cabal, connecting to download ghc, etc works.
2026-04-16 01:05:06 +0000 <drbean> But ghcup reports the URL it's failing to download from, and I use curl to download it and then 'ghcup --cache install hls', etc.
2026-04-16 01:05:07 +0000 <sclv> you can run cabal update with a verbosity flag to debug
2026-04-16 01:06:11 +0000 <EvanR> if ghcup is relying on github at some point that's been getting mixed reviews today
2026-04-16 01:06:24 +0000 <drbean> OK. Good to know. Unlike 'ghcup', 'cabal' doesn't report the URL. I will try the verbosity flat
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2026-04-16 01:14:47 +0000 <drbean> The verbose output from 'curl -v update' doesn't appear to have a URL of a file with list of updates I can download.
2026-04-16 01:15:06 +0000 <drbean> Sorry 'cabal -v update'
2026-04-16 01:16:27 +0000 <drbean> 'ghcup' does, so as workaround, I download the hls, cabal, stack tarballs to ghcup's cache dir.
2026-04-16 01:17:15 +0000 <drbean> And then install from the cache with 'ghcup --cache install hls' etc.
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2026-04-16 01:18:32 +0000 <drbean> This 'cabal update' is not particularly pressing.
2026-04-16 01:19:12 +0000 <geekosaur> that's not what cabal update does anyway. (also -v3 might have it)
2026-04-16 01:19:44 +0000 <drbean> But the broken installation process with ghcup and cabal is something I want to fix
2026-04-16 01:20:37 +0000 <geekosaur> it downloads an 01-index.tar.gz which as a complete index of hackage's contents' cabal files
2026-04-16 01:21:51 +0000 <geekosaur> and then indexes that; actual updates happen later when packages are (re)built, but the index's contents inform the solver for picking versions of packages/dependencies
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2026-04-16 01:23:48 +0000 <drbean> Can cabal build the index from a cached file, like ghcup can for installing hls, etc?
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2026-04-16 01:24:59 +0000 <geekosaur> I'm not sure what you think is going on there. the cached file already has its associated indiexes. what it doesn't have is any new uploads to Hackage
2026-04-16 01:25:22 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-04-16 01:25:57 +0000 <geekosaur> ghcup, on the other hand, only deals with a handful of tools and gets information about those from a yaml file which it tries to update periodically
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2026-04-16 01:27:00 +0000 <drbean> If it can, I will use curl to download https://hackage.haskell.org/.../01-index.tar.gz. Where doesit put the 01-index tarball?
2026-04-16 01:27:03 +0000 <geekosaur> if it fails, obviously you won't see new versions of things, but you can still instaall and switch between versions it kn ows about via the cached file. cabal also continues to work if `cabal update` (after the very first one) fails, it just won't know about newer packages
2026-04-16 01:27:45 +0000 <drbean> OK. 'cabal update' isn't a pressing issue.
2026-04-16 01:28:03 +0000 <drbean> Good to know.
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2026-04-16 01:31:35 +0000 <geekosaur> I have $HOME/.cache/cabal/packages/hackage.haskell.org/01-index.tar.gz but I use XDG mode. it'll be under $HOME/.cabal in old mode. don't know where Windows puts it
2026-04-16 01:31:57 +0000 <geekosaur> (I think the packages dir is directly in ~/.cabal in old style?)
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2026-04-16 01:38:26 +0000 <drbean> Thanks. Mrs Bean says I have to eat.
2026-04-16 01:38:34 +0000 <drbean> Bye
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2026-04-16 07:03:32 +0000 <gentauro> 23:42 <@janus> https://github.com/solomon-b/lambda-calculus-hs/ janus that seems like a nice project
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2026-04-16 07:34:28 +0000 <drbean> 6 hrs ago, here, I posted about ghcup, cabal downloading problems running them in a MSYS2 shell.
2026-04-16 07:37:33 +0000 <drbean> I was able to workaround the ghcup downloading problem using curl downloading from the URL ghcup reported to ghcup's cache, and installing from the cache.
2026-04-16 07:38:46 +0000 <drbean> I wasn't able to do that downloading the cabal package index. It wasn't reporting a URL.
2026-04-16 07:40:22 +0000 <drbean> I am now able to solve that problem by running ghcup install .., cabal update in a windows 'cmd' shell.
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2026-04-16 08:45:20 +0000 <drbean> Perhaps that failure,curl: (6) getaddrinfo() thread failed to start
2026-04-16 08:45:22 +0000 <drbean> [\\ Error ] [GHCup-05841] Download failed: Process "curl" with arguments ["-fL", "-o",
2026-04-16 08:46:12 +0000 <drbean> [ ... ] "C:\\ghcup\\tmp\\ghcup-b8584d5329d547aa etc, etc
2026-04-16 08:48:23 +0000 <drbean> is due to different curls, MYS2's and the cmd shell Windows' one.
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2026-04-16 09:29:38 +0000 <[exa]> drbean: yes I think that is a common occurrence
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2026-04-16 09:49:52 +0000 <drbean> Dinner time.
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