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| 2025-01-19 00:40:18 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2025-01-19 00:42:47 +0100 | Fijxu | (~Fijxu@user/fijxu) (Quit: XD!!) |
| 2025-01-19 00:43:10 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2025-01-19 00:45:42 +0100 | hellwolf | refactors Haskell code, keeping the same type signature, changed internal implementation, everything compiles and works again. |
| 2025-01-19 00:46:15 +0100 | <hellwolf> | I think people don't use Haskell often because it would have been to boring and easy. Contrary to the popular belief. |
| 2025-01-19 00:46:45 +0100 | Fijxu | (~Fijxu@user/fijxu) fijxu |
| 2025-01-19 00:47:30 +0100 | simplystuart | (~simplystu@c-75-75-152-164.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
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| 2025-01-19 00:49:19 +0100 | <c_wraith> | there's a lot of unnecessary fear of Haskell. But there are also some legitimately new things that you have to learn. |
| 2025-01-19 00:49:33 +0100 | <c_wraith> | And that can be very intimidating. |
| 2025-01-19 00:52:30 +0100 | <hellwolf> | it sounds silly, but the "let in; where without curly bracket" syntax seems the biggest barrier to entry :D |
| 2025-01-19 00:55:17 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-01-19 01:02:33 +0100 | Eoco | (~ian@128.101.131.218) (Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2) |
| 2025-01-19 01:13:01 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-01-19 01:21:41 +0100 | <monochrom> | Given that people will pay you extra to fix the bugs you created in the first place, there is every incentive to use languages that are easy to create bugs and hard to fix bugs. |
| 2025-01-19 01:22:16 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-01-19 01:22:17 +0100 | <monochrom> | If you think I'm secretly saying that programmers are scammers and frauds, YES. |
| 2025-01-19 01:25:38 +0100 | ColinRobinson | JuanDaugherty |
| 2025-01-19 01:26:13 +0100 | <c_wraith> | I don't think you're *secretly* saying it |
| 2025-01-19 01:26:27 +0100 | <monochrom> | >:) |
| 2025-01-19 01:29:09 +0100 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-174-53-203-90.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-01-19 01:30:14 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2025-01-19 01:31:36 +0100 | <monochrom> | Relatedly: https://danluu.com/algorithms-interviews/ (tl;dr why programmers are performance experts when applying for jobs but total dummies after: after getting hired, there is no reason to care anymore, you don't get paid more) |
| 2025-01-19 01:33:37 +0100 | __monty__ | (~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: leaving) |
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| 2025-01-19 02:04:52 +0100 | JuanDaugherty | ColinRobinson |
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| 2025-01-19 02:18:49 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> Haskell taken as a whole isn't that boring and easy. The syntax, tools, ecosystem, docs and support are complex and crufty |
| 2025-01-19 02:19:15 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> relatively speaking |
| 2025-01-19 02:20:14 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-01-19 02:20:25 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> you get a lot for that but I still wouldn't call it easy |
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| 2025-01-19 02:24:12 +0100 | ColinRobinson | JuanDaugherty |
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| 2025-01-19 02:37:28 +0100 | JuanDaugherty | ColinRobinson |
| 2025-01-19 02:40:51 +0100 | <apache> | hellwolf: I found "press enter, oh shit my program now does something else because the editor changed the indentation" more annoying than lack of curly brackets, re: blocks :) |
| 2025-01-19 02:46:47 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-01-19 02:59:36 +0100 | In3f4bl3 | (~dv0@user/In3f4bl3) In3f4bl3 |
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| 2025-01-19 03:29:33 +0100 | califax_ | (~califax@user/califx) califx |
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| 2025-01-19 03:30:44 +0100 | califax_ | califax |
| 2025-01-19 03:33:45 +0100 | <Angelz> | programmers ? |
| 2025-01-19 03:34:21 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you can use braces if you want |
| 2025-01-19 03:34:36 +0100 | <Angelz> | *.* |
| 2025-01-19 03:34:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (in fact, you have to with lambdabot) |
| 2025-01-19 03:35:00 +0100 | <geekosaur> | at least if you nest things that normally use layout, such as a let inside a do) |
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| 2025-01-19 03:44:50 +0100 | <In3f4bl3> | Haskell: where you can have your cake and eat it too--just don't forget to define your cake as a monad first! |
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| 2025-01-19 04:08:12 +0100 | ColinRobinson | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) (Quit: ColinRobinson) |
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| 2025-01-19 04:16:26 +0100 | <monochrom> | or, just don't forget to add "build-depends: cake" and wait for an hour to build. |
| 2025-01-19 04:17:19 +0100 | <In3f4bl3> | Why wait an hour when you can just "cake" it easy and let the compiler do the baking? |
| 2025-01-19 04:18:07 +0100 | <In3f4bl3> | Just add "cake" to the build-depends, and watch as your project rises faster than my patience for bad dependencies. |
| 2025-01-19 04:18:10 +0100 | <In3f4bl3> | :P |
| 2025-01-19 04:19:23 +0100 | <monochrom> | Yeah the compiler does the baking, that's why you wait. Just look at those people stuck in laundry shops precisely because the machines are doing the washing! |
| 2025-01-19 04:19:29 +0100 | <In3f4bl3> | Why did the Haskell programmer bring a ladder to the build? Because they heard the compilation times were sky-high and wanted to reach for the stars while waiting! |
| 2025-01-19 04:21:26 +0100 | <In3f4bl3> | Why do Haskell developers make terrible chefs? Because by the time they finish compiling their code, the soufflé has already collapsed, and they're still stuck in a monadic state of waiting! |
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