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2025-01-17 03:24:18 +0100 <sm> @where+ fast-haskell-redux https://jtobin.io/fast-haskell-redux performance optimisations (2025)
2025-01-17 03:24:18 +0100 <lambdabot> Nice!
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2025-01-17 04:26:05 +0100 <homo> hi, I have some progress trying to bootstrap microhs from hugs, currently compile-time errors are fixed, but runtime is broken, I hope someone can continue from here, because this is as far as I can go https://0.vern.cc/Mm.patch
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2025-01-17 04:29:40 +0100 <Leary> homo: I suggest you put this in a microhs issue; it'll just get lost in here.
2025-01-17 04:30:53 +0100Fijxu(~Fijxu@user/fijxu) fijxu
2025-01-17 04:31:33 +0100 <homo> I don't have github account, so I sent this patch by e-mail to Lennart
2025-01-17 04:31:58 +0100 <Leary> I guess that works too.
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2025-01-17 04:33:06 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> microhs looks ill conceived
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2025-01-17 04:35:16 +0100Sgeo(~Sgeo@user/sgeo) Sgeo
2025-01-17 04:35:33 +0100 <homo> well, microhs is the biggest implementation of haskell that might be cleanly bootstrapped from source
2025-01-17 04:36:08 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> i doubt that
2025-01-17 04:36:31 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> specifically i doubt that "cleanly" can be given an objective sense
2025-01-17 04:36:56 +0100 <homo> clean bootstrap means that it doesn't depend on bootstrap binaries
2025-01-17 04:37:15 +0100 <homo> #bootstrappable can bootstrap modern gcc by using 200-byte binary
2025-01-17 04:37:28 +0100 <homo> reviewable 200-byte binary that is
2025-01-17 04:37:36 +0100 <homo> that is what makes bootstrap clean
2025-01-17 04:37:41 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> in addition to big fat thing having bounds period, practically
2025-01-17 04:38:43 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> while ill conceived, these new infos certainly indicate entertainment value
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2025-01-17 04:39:43 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> big fat thing that doesn just need to book two seats but charter a damn flight
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2025-01-17 04:43:02 +0100 <jackdk> homo: does this mean that you have a good bootstrap from C to Hugs?
2025-01-17 04:43:52 +0100terrorjack45(~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:a66e::) terrorjack
2025-01-17 04:45:55 +0100 <homo> jackdk yes, since I'm using guix
2025-01-17 04:46:28 +0100 <jackdk> Huh, the last I heard was someone's experiments with nhc98 to bootstrap Hugs. Did something change?
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2025-01-17 04:47:20 +0100 <homo> that person lost interest, expressing disappointment of lack of interest from haskell community in bootstrapping
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2025-01-17 05:24:08 +0100 <jackdk> homo: cool, I see you contributed the Hugs fix to Guix. I had formed the (possibly mistaken) impression that it carried blobs in its source - was it really just that little patch?
2025-01-17 05:25:34 +0100m1dnight_(~m1dnight@d8D861908.access.telenet.be) m1dnight
2025-01-17 05:26:09 +0100 <jackdk> Also, might be worth adding to https://discourse.haskell.org/t/keeping-hugs-alive/7737/5 ?
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2025-01-17 05:33:34 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> I use Hugs almost daily since my laptop broke, and I'm glad people are still working on it! Used to use Miranda but that got too slow too fast
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2025-01-17 05:34:18 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> The nix-on-droid build of Hugs also works well
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2025-01-17 05:35:22 +0100 <homo> jackdk suprisingly yes, it's just gcc-specific internal that should not be used
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