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| 2024-12-25 00:22:26 +0100 | ubert1 | ubert |
| 2024-12-25 00:27:16 +0100 | cuteguest | (~cuteguest@2601:602:680:2280::5d66) |
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| 2024-12-25 00:31:05 +0100 | <cuteguest> | hmm hmm im still stuck on the same problem as b4.. i hav a type class that relates a type to two GADTs like this (class Elmo a where type Bert :: a -> Type, type Ernie :: a -> Type).. is there a way to hav a type class like this that ensures each value of a has only 1 corresponding type? like, is there a way to show that these GADTs have only 1 |
| 2024-12-25 00:31:05 +0100 | <cuteguest> | constructor for each value of a? |
| 2024-12-25 00:32:54 +0100 | <cuteguest> | id like it so that if i had a function from Bert a to Ernie a that i could pattern match on the results if i knew the input type |
| 2024-12-25 00:37:34 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-12-25 00:40:20 +0100 | <cuteguest> | ar we allowed to post pastebins in here? that might make it easier to read.. |
| 2024-12-25 00:41:44 +0100 | <cuteguest> | ooh wait i see the thing up top.. hold on |
| 2024-12-25 00:42:13 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2024-12-25 00:43:16 +0100 | <cuteguest> | hmm mayb christmas eve is the wrong time to ask questions :3 |
| 2024-12-25 00:45:23 +0100 | <cuteguest> | im gonna post the full link.. i hope its ok >_< |
| 2024-12-25 00:45:35 +0100 | <darkling> | If you have a pastebin, that's a good way of showing people your code. Go for it. |
| 2024-12-25 00:45:41 +0100 | <cuteguest> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/99l00Nhb |
| 2024-12-25 00:45:59 +0100 | <darkling> | (I'm unlikely to be able to help directly; that's about as much as I can do here). |
| 2024-12-25 00:46:06 +0100 | <cuteguest> | <33 |
| 2024-12-25 00:46:57 +0100 | <cuteguest> | i appreciate your response at the v least |
| 2024-12-25 00:52:56 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-12-25 00:55:20 +0100 | <geekosaur> | the only thing I can think of is this sounds slightly like a pattern synonym, otherwise it sounds "backwards" because typeclasses don't do that kind of thing, GADTs do |
| 2024-12-25 00:56:38 +0100 | <cuteguest> | pattern synonym.. interesting.. thankyou |
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| 2024-12-25 01:02:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | what makes it sound like that is that you want to match on it. I think that might indicate a bidirectional pattern synonym is in order |
| 2024-12-25 01:03:36 +0100 | <geekosaur> | hide the real constructors, export the patsyn. although this doesn't give you quite what you asked for: non-matching constructors would produce errors, but would still exist internally |
| 2024-12-25 01:04:14 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but I'm not quite sure what your're trying to accomplish here and wondering if maybe a different approach entirely is warranted |
| 2024-12-25 01:04:23 +0100 | rekahsoft | (~rekahsoft@bras-base-orllon1103w-grc-06-76-69-85-220.dsl.bell.ca) rekahsoft |
| 2024-12-25 01:04:31 +0100 | <cuteguest> | hmm hmm thank you for the feedback |
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| 2024-12-25 01:06:25 +0100 | <cuteguest> | im going to take a second to think abt how to say specifically what i want |
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| 2024-12-25 01:15:12 +0100 | <cuteguest> | i think i am trying to make a class where, given some type, there are two types which are indexed by values over it. i would also want there to be some kind of relationship between these three types so that if im given one of the indexed types, i can know the type of the other to pattern match off of it and slurp out its data |
| 2024-12-25 01:17:34 +0100 | <cuteguest> | i guess i could reveal what im trying to make with this.. maybe my whole approach is silly |
| 2024-12-25 01:18:25 +0100 | <cuteguest> | well mayb the whole idea is silly but :p |
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| 2024-12-25 01:31:14 +0100 | <cuteguest> | ok idk why i want to keep it a secret.. im trying to make coroutines that can yield (or really request) several different types of values. the request and response type are indexed by an "alert" type. i was able to make an instance of them as monads, and a request function that takes a request and gives you a coroutine back with a response. the |
| 2024-12-25 01:31:15 +0100 | <cuteguest> | problem is, whenever i try to match on the request function like you would with normal coroutines, it doesnt work because there could be more than one constructor for a response for any value of the alert type. |
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| 2024-12-25 01:46:50 +0100 | <cuteguest> | i will look into bidirectional pattern synonyms.. ty for your help |
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| 2024-12-25 04:10:39 +0100 | <KicksonButt> | \list |
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| 2024-12-25 04:59:18 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> ski: did my explanation convince you at all? I can't seem to find any resources on this so I'm not entirely convinced I am not serving word salad |
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| 2024-12-25 06:07:59 +0100 | <iqubic> | Why is there no version of zipWith for arrays? |
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| 2024-12-25 06:33:37 +0100 | <EvanR> | do you mean Array, because how would that work |
| 2024-12-25 06:34:07 +0100 | <EvanR> | if it would work fine, then it's because Array's API is missing a lot of stuff |
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| 2024-12-25 06:49:33 +0100 | <iqubic> | I do mean Array. |
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| 2024-12-25 06:50:57 +0100 | <iqubic> | I was looking for something like "zipWith :: Ix i => (a -> b -> c) -> Array i a -> Array i b -> Array i c" |
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| 2024-12-25 10:31:10 +0100 | <Rembane> | Vector has a richer API, but isn't Array. :/ |
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| 2024-12-25 10:37:43 +0100 | <davean> | I've got a few tickets about stuff with Array, but kinda no one "owns" it, so motion requires doing it ones self and submitting a patch. A thing I really should get around to. |
| 2024-12-25 10:38:09 +0100 | eL_Bart0 | (eL_Bart0@dietunichtguten.org) |
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| 2024-12-25 10:38:22 +0100 | <davean> | I have implimented notable additional functions in my own code, but I have a touch higher standard than "gets it done for now" for submitting it back :) |
| 2024-12-25 10:40:45 +0100 | <Rembane> | But maybe it's a start? Like a WIP-PR, and then they can be iterated on. |
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| 2024-12-25 14:45:21 +0100 | <hellwolf> | I read somewhere that I really shouldn't use HasCallStack, what's that all about? |
| 2024-12-25 14:45:50 +0100 | <int-e> | % :t error |
| 2024-12-25 14:45:50 +0100 | <yahb2> | error :: GHC.Internal.Stack.Types.HasCallStack => [Char] -> a |
| 2024-12-25 14:47:39 +0100 | <int-e> | It's a call stack; for functions with HasCallStack, the compiler adds code to track them and pass that information on to callees that also have a HasCallStack constraint. |
| 2024-12-25 14:48:46 +0100 | <int-e> | If you'd use that indiscriminately then your program would fill up your memory with complete traces of your computation very quickly. |
| 2024-12-25 14:49:50 +0100 | <int-e> | But AIUI this can be a good tool to answer the question where a failing function was called from. |
| 2024-12-25 14:51:16 +0100 | <hellwolf> | what should I use instead, I have "gen_assert_msg" helper I use in a few places, it uses "error" inside. but it definitely does not produce the stack trace. I am not sure I should pursue such a stack trace, I am all ears on any more sensible debugging strategy. |
| 2024-12-25 14:52:45 +0100 | Nixkernal | (~Nixkernal@90.74.198.178.dynamic.cust.swisscom.net) Nixkernal |
| 2024-12-25 14:53:26 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-12-25 14:54:59 +0100 | <int-e> | % import GHC.CallStack |
| 2024-12-25 14:55:00 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no location info>: error: [GHC-35235] ; Could not find module ‘GHC.CallStack’. ; It is not a module in the current program, or in any known package. |
| 2024-12-25 14:55:09 +0100 | <int-e> | % import GHC.Stack |
| 2024-12-25 14:55:09 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2024-12-25 14:55:30 +0100 | <int-e> | % let f :: HasCallStack => String; f = show (getCallStack ?callStack) in putStrLn f |
| 2024-12-25 14:55:30 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:37:57: error: [GHC-88464] ; Variable not in scope: ; (?) :: (CallStack -> [([Char], SrcLoc)]) -> CallStack -> a0 |
| 2024-12-25 14:55:51 +0100 | <int-e> | % :set -XImplicitParams |
| 2024-12-25 14:55:51 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2024-12-25 14:55:55 +0100 | <int-e> | % let f :: HasCallStack => String; f = show (getCallStack ?callStack) in putStrLn f |
| 2024-12-25 14:55:55 +0100 | <yahb2> | [("f",SrcLoc {srcLocPackage = "interactive", srcLocModule = "Ghci7", srcLocFile = "<interactive>", srcLocStartLine = 41, srcLocStartCol = 81, srcLocEndLine = 41, srcLocEndCol = 82})] |
| 2024-12-25 14:56:09 +0100 | <int-e> | so that tells you where f was called from. |
| 2024-12-25 14:56:16 +0100 | int-e | shrugs |
| 2024-12-25 14:56:21 +0100 | <hellwolf> | fwiw, I currently do Text.IO and print out result as much it can, and it stops at where it crashed. That's actually always helpful... good old printf debugging, I guess. |
| 2024-12-25 14:56:45 +0100 | <int-e> | Debug.Trace goes a long way. |
| 2024-12-25 14:57:35 +0100 | <hellwolf> | can you turn it off by environment variable or RTS options? |
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| 2024-12-25 15:09:37 +0100 | <int-e> | hellwolf: "it"? |
| 2024-12-25 15:10:25 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
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| 2024-12-25 15:14:11 +0100 | <int-e> | There's two parts of Debug.Trace; the `traceEvent` family of functions is subject to the event log being enabled during linking. The other functions unconditionally write to the program's output (stderr), and meant to be used in a build-run-edit debugging loop |
| 2024-12-25 15:14:34 +0100 | meritamen | (~meritamen@user/meritamen) meritamen |
| 2024-12-25 15:14:38 +0100 | <int-e> | neither of those is a generic logging mechanism |
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