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2024-10-22 00:00:29 +0200 <geekosaur> (strongly deprecated since OCaml 2.0 though)
2024-10-22 00:00:32 +0200 <mauke> technically also true of Perl
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2024-10-22 00:10:38 +0200Sgeo(~Sgeo@user/sgeo) Sgeo
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2024-10-22 00:13:51 +0200 <dmj`> rust is by default immutable, pass by value, with opt-in laziness and mutability, haskell is default immutable, pass by value, but default laziness and opt-in mutability. rust traits aren't compiled w/ dictionaries, and I don't know how rust existentials are handled
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2024-10-22 00:47:49 +0200 <sm> there are *so many* characteristics within "OOP" and "FP" that are orthogonal or at best related
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2024-10-22 00:48:40 +0200 <sm> until we can name and explain every one of them there'll be no end to the discussions :)
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2024-10-22 00:50:50 +0200 <haskellbridge> <sm> I guess this is all related to today's, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41901577
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2024-10-22 02:52:28 +0200 <Axman6> sam113101: traits (among many other features of Rust were strongly inspured by Haskell's type classes - https://readmedium.com/ideas-from-other-languages-that-influenced-rust-8ffb5589b0fe
2024-10-22 02:52:37 +0200 <Axman6> s/Rust/Rust)
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2024-10-22 03:15:15 +0200 <sm> historical trivia from the original 1982 traits paper: "Multiple-inheritance subclassing is a valid and useful method for organizing object-oriented software; as demonstrated by the existence of the Star Workstation. The complexity of the Star WS software has been controlled by object-orientation first, subclassing second and multiple-inheritance third. The Traits Model is a reasonable approach to multiple- inheritance subclassing. ... Eric Harslem
2024-10-22 03:15:15 +0200 <sm> allowed us to apply this unproven software technique to a large and important piece of software - successfully. Dan Ingalls, Alan Borning, and Dave Gifford all later noted the similarities between the traits approach and the flavors approach of the MIT LISP machine.
2024-10-22 03:15:55 +0200 <sm> https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/966873.806468
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