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2024-10-21 01:36:04 +0200 | Henson | (~kvirc@bras-base-owsdon5915w-grc-09-64-231-69-12.dsl.bell.ca) Henson |
2024-10-21 01:38:08 +0200 | <Henson> | I'm experiencing what appears to be a memory leak when rapidly creating ForeignPtrs using calloc on one team of threads, and passing them via an MVar to another team of threads that remove them from the MVars an allow them to be GCd with the finalizerFree. This leak does not happen when using Ptrs with an explicit "free". It also doesn't happen when using asyncBound. But it does happen... |
2024-10-21 01:39:08 +0200 | <Henson> | when using async with multiple threads and the creation/destruction happening on multiple capabilities. If I use "-N1" and restrict Haskell to a single core, it then doesn't happen when using "async". Does anybody have any suggestions as to why this might be happening? |
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2024-10-21 02:57:58 +0200 | <Axman6> | Henson: Are you able to make a minimal reproducer? it sounds like a fairly easy one to reproduce if it's just using async, MVars and foreign pointers. |
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2024-10-21 11:14:04 +0200 | <kaol> | I have a meta Haskell question: I'm thinking of applying for a Rust job and I don't really know Rust but I've got the impression that they've borrowed a lot from Haskell. And I know imperative stuff like C/C++/Java. Do you have suggestions how I should hand wave my way about it? |
2024-10-21 11:15:56 +0200 | <Rembane> | kaol: Learn to handle the borrow checker, otherwise you should be fine. If you know Haskell you have the capacity to learn abstract programming languages and that will help you in Rust too. |
2024-10-21 11:16:22 +0200 | <Rembane> | ...according to my experiences. :D |
2024-10-21 11:16:23 +0200 | ol0ck | (~quassel@user/ol0ck) ol0ck |
2024-10-21 11:20:43 +0200 | tv | (~tv@user/tv) tv |
2024-10-21 11:22:25 +0200 | <Hecate> | eyo Rembane <3 |
2024-10-21 11:22:29 +0200 | <Hecate> | what's up? |
2024-10-21 11:26:33 +0200 | <Rembane> | Hecate: Yo! <3 Long time no see! |
2024-10-21 11:29:38 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I'm not a rust programmer, but from what I've read I don't think you can hand wave it |
2024-10-21 11:30:09 +0200 | <Rembane> | Hecate: Not much, procrastinating finishing my thesis, looking for a new job but not that seriously, and enjoying the swedish autumn. :D |
2024-10-21 11:31:17 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> it's an anti hand waving language |
2024-10-21 11:32:23 +0200 | <Rembane> | That's what makes it fast and safe, right? |
2024-10-21 11:37:07 +0200 | <Hecate> | Rembane: good, good :) |
2024-10-21 11:37:53 +0200 | <Rembane> | Hecate: What's new in your world? :) |
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2024-10-21 11:41:26 +0200 | <Hecate> | Rembane: still very busy! but I got some nice SF to read these days so that's really good |
2024-10-21 11:41:52 +0200 | <Rembane> | Hecate: Oooooooooooh. Anything to recommend? |
2024-10-21 11:41:53 +0200 | <Hecate> | I'm reading the "Children of Time" trilogy by Adrian Tchaikovsky |
2024-10-21 11:42:03 +0200 | <Rembane> | Hecate: I've heard good things about it! Now I must read it! |
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2024-10-21 11:44:02 +0200 | <Hecate> | yes! |
2024-10-21 11:49:49 +0200 | rosco | (~rosco@60.53.7.10) (Quit: Lost terminal) |
2024-10-21 11:51:54 +0200 | <kaol> | sm: They did allow in the job ad that they'll take people who can learn it. |
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2024-10-21 11:58:13 +0200 | <kaol> | I guess "hand waving" was overstating it, mainly I was just thinking how relevant mentioning Haskell knowledge would be when I tell that I don't know Rust (yet) in the application. |
2024-10-21 12:03:00 +0200 | sawilagar | (~sawilagar@user/sawilagar) sawilagar |
2024-10-21 12:03:06 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | kaol: what other imperative languages do you know? |
2024-10-21 12:03:10 +0200 | synchrom2 | (~john@180.148.124.74) (Quit: WeeChat 4.0.5) |
2024-10-21 12:06:10 +0200 | <kaol> | tomsmeding: Besides the C, C++ and Java I mentioned: Perl and JavaScript. Some Python and Pascal. Dabbled in a few others that I'll skip. |
2024-10-21 12:06:26 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | (sorry I skipped most of the convo) |
2024-10-21 12:07:15 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | Rust is like: Haskell + haskell mindset (strong typing, care about mutability) <tensorproduct> C++ mindset (resource awareness) + standard imperative programming |
2024-10-21 12:08:24 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | if you can show you have those things, you'll be in a very good place to pick up rust |
2024-10-21 12:08:38 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | you will need to get familiarity and skills with the borrow checker |
2024-10-21 12:08:46 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | which you can't learn beforehand, it takes practice |
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2024-10-21 12:10:14 +0200 | <kaol> | They said that knowing C++ is still a plus if you don't know Rust and I suspect that they would have mentioned Haskell as well but they didn't expect that anyone would know it. |
2024-10-21 12:10:15 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> kaol: fair enough |
2024-10-21 12:10:44 +0200 | mari-estel | (~mari-este@user/mari-estel) mari-estel |
2024-10-21 12:11:04 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> if you don't know haskell yet, I don't think learning it will be a shortcut to learning rust |
2024-10-21 12:11:44 +0200 | <kaol> | I've used Haskell in production for over 5 years. |
2024-10-21 12:11:50 +0200 | sawilagar | (~sawilagar@user/sawilagar) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
2024-10-21 12:11:54 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> ah, great |
2024-10-21 12:12:04 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> then sure, that's a great thing to mention |
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2024-10-21 12:12:22 +0200 | sawilagar | (~sawilagar@user/sawilagar) sawilagar |
2024-10-21 12:12:39 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I got a job once by mentioning haskell |
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2024-10-21 12:27:56 +0200 | <kaol> | And if anyone happens to have a Haskell job available I'd rather do that instead of telling how I can do something else because I know it. Just mentioning. |
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2024-10-21 13:06:50 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> kaol: worth contacting the recent job posters on the discourse and reddit |
2024-10-21 13:09:48 +0200 | <kaol> | I think I know the usual haunts. I was making conversation, or something. Thanks for the insight, I'll try the Rust one at least. |
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