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2026-06-02 06:19:52 +0000 <jj> a package i want to use is two years and three minor versions out of date on hackage; who should i bug about this? the package maintainer, or someone from hackage?
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2026-06-02 07:03:51 +0000 <[exa]> jj: send an issue to the repo
2026-06-02 07:04:35 +0000 <[exa]> if the maintainer is unresponsive there's workflows to keep the package updated without them
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2026-06-02 07:05:05 +0000 <[exa]> (esp if there are volunteers to take over, wink wink)
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2026-06-02 08:46:38 +0000 <jaror> sm: the new tagline is a spinoff from this thread: https://discourse.haskell.org/t/emphasize-why-haskell-on-haskell-org-landing-page/12036?u=jaror
2026-06-02 08:46:50 +0000 <jaror> and then this infra issue: https://github.com/haskell-infra/www.haskell.org/pull/337
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2026-06-02 10:19:38 +0000 <sm> 👍🏻
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2026-06-02 10:51:29 +0000 <gentauro> sm: if you combine it with NixOS, the statement is actually true :)
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2026-06-02 11:06:52 +0000 <sm> I think it's quite true even without nix (it's why I switched to haskell)
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2026-06-02 13:21:23 +0000 <gentauro> sm: I mean, you can't even build for diff ghc versions without having to do shenanigans ;)
2026-06-02 13:21:50 +0000gentauro«Avoid success at all costs» SPJ ;)
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2026-06-02 13:31:23 +0000 <sm> I agree the picture is a bit mixed. But those issues can be managed, and your codebase itself can live and grow for a long time
2026-06-02 13:32:04 +0000 <sm> more so than most languages
2026-06-02 13:33:07 +0000 <yin> i have bad feelings about this marketing wave around haskell
2026-06-02 13:34:48 +0000bedbedbde(~bedbedbde@user/bedbedbde) bedbedbde
2026-06-02 13:35:58 +0000 <yin> i hope that i'm wrong
2026-06-02 13:36:11 +0000 <jaror> what marketing wave?
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2026-06-02 13:38:11 +0000 <gentauro> the marketing is that if Haskell doesn't "do something", with the wave of AI-slop, instead of all Haskell devs could be in a Boeing 747, it might be all Haskell devs can be in a mini-bus ;) (not to sound the alarm but …)
2026-06-02 13:38:33 +0000 <yin> i've been feeling a revival of the general effort to bring more people into Haskell lately, but maybe i'm wrong?
2026-06-02 13:40:10 +0000 <jaror> I haven't noticed that much of such an effort. The change to haskell.org was also already a year ago.
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2026-06-02 13:40:27 +0000 <sm> haskellers have always been wanting it to grow (in various directions), nothing new in that. The speed is not exactly breakneck
2026-06-02 13:41:24 +0000 <gentauro> sm: "some" have, others, as long as their academic papers 👍 then …
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2026-06-02 13:48:16 +0000 <tomsmeding> I spoke to a devops engineer earlier this year, and he hadn't even heard of the name Haskell!! How can that be!!1
2026-06-02 13:49:33 +0000 <yin> i'd love for Haskell to grow, but not in all directions
2026-06-02 13:49:53 +0000 <yin> i actually think a little pruning would be appropriate
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2026-06-02 13:54:54 +0000 <kuribas> tomsmeding: They also don't know what is hygienic macro expansion...
2026-06-02 13:55:18 +0000 <kuribas> It was solved 40 years ago.
2026-06-02 13:55:38 +0000 <tomsmeding> clearly they must be enlightened!
2026-06-02 13:55:58 +0000 <yin> are we dissing devops in general?
2026-06-02 13:56:50 +0000 <sm> this is #haskell, we don't dis anyone
2026-06-02 13:57:12 +0000 <sm> well, maybe ourselves sometimes
2026-06-02 13:59:16 +0000 <kuribas> yin: I am fine, as long as I don't have to deal with helmfiles myself...
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2026-06-02 14:00:16 +0000 <yin> man i remember when i was first learning haskell and discovering this channel, there was a great log going around of an obvious troll trying to spam and cause chaos, which was promptly convinced, after a very short interaction with the amazing people here, to try haskell
2026-06-02 14:00:21 +0000 <kuribas> haskell is out of the hype phase.
2026-06-02 14:00:46 +0000gmg(~user@user/gehmehgeh) gehmehgeh
2026-06-02 14:01:42 +0000 <yin> here it is https://gist.github.com/quchen/5280339
2026-06-02 14:01:43 +0000 <kuribas> yin: I didn't parse that sentence... How was convinced to use haskell?
2026-06-02 14:02:23 +0000 <yin> kuribas: my english is not the best. read the link and you'll understand
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