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2026-04-30 15:59:14 +0000 <tomsmeding> janus: dunno about cringe; shapr gave me op in #haskell-offtopic a long time ago and I did the same. :P
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2026-04-30 15:45:13 +0000 <janus> but it's a good lesson in that kindedness is exported, which i hadn't considered
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2026-04-30 15:44:44 +0000 <janus> Leary: i should probably abandon this effort, it seems too risky for such an old codebase
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2026-04-30 15:41:14 +0000 <geekosaur> it's kinda disrecommended by libera
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2026-04-30 15:36:46 +0000 <janus> it is cringe to wear op all the time?
2026-04-30 15:36:01 +0000 <janus> i got op from shapr and now i proudly wear it. i don't think ChanServ knows about it so i wouldn't be able to get it back
2026-04-30 15:35:24 +0000 <tomsmeding> hello I've been away for a couple weeks, what's with all the @? Are there spammers?
2026-04-30 15:34:18 +0000 <Leary> I would determine that on a case-by-case basis; ultimately it's a matter of whether they types in question have any good reason to be (or not be) polykinded.
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2026-04-30 15:31:35 +0000 <janus> but would it not be better to make the servant export not-polykinded , and keep compatibility with revdeps?
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2026-04-30 15:30:54 +0000 <Leary> Which is fine, but the revdep now needs `Typeable` on the kind.
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2026-04-30 15:30:10 +0000 <Leary> Yeah; at a guess, something that wasn't polykinded now is.
2026-04-30 15:29:51 +0000 <c_wraith> Not with that specifically, but stuff like PolyKinds can do that
2026-04-30 15:29:37 +0000 <janus> s/dependencies/revdeps/
2026-04-30 15:29:24 +0000 <janus> is that something people have encountered?
2026-04-30 15:28:55 +0000 <janus> i just didn't expect the code to compile, and then the dependencies to break!