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| 2026-04-22 18:43:47 +0000 | kupi | (uid212005@id-212005.hampstead.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) |
| 2026-04-22 18:41:25 +0000 | <monochrom> | Personally I just fight bottom mistakes with test cases. This is more powerful in Haskell than in many other languages. Due to parametricity, if a sufficiently polymorphic function terminates for one test, then it terminates for a large generality. |
| 2026-04-22 18:38:44 +0000 | <gentauro> | must try again I guess |
| 2026-04-22 18:38:38 +0000 | <gentauro> | I tried to use it, couldn't make it build (nightly though) |
| 2026-04-22 18:36:32 +0000 | <monochrom> | But I have a feeling that Liquid Haskell is even less widely used than Lean. |
| 2026-04-22 18:36:03 +0000 | <monochrom> | I guess yes. |
| 2026-04-22 18:35:39 +0000 | <gentauro> | monochrom: can you ban `bottom` with Liquid Haskell comments? |
| 2026-04-22 18:34:34 +0000 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) gehmehgeh |
| 2026-04-22 18:30:03 +0000 | ski | . o O ( "Higher-Order Recursion Abstraction: How to Make Ackermann, Knuth and Conway Look Like a Bunch of Primitives, Figuratively Speaking" by Baltasar Trancón y Widemann in 2018-09-17 at <https://arxiv.org/abs/1602.05010> ) |
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| 2026-04-22 18:25:09 +0000 | Digit | (~user@user/digit) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2026-04-22 18:20:46 +0000 | target_i | (~target_i@user/target-i/x-6023099) target_i |
| 2026-04-22 18:02:35 +0000 | <monochrom> | (When I took a compiler course and submitted its toy compiler project) |
| 2026-04-22 18:01:22 +0000 | <monochrom> | When I took a compiler course, I submitted as a test case the Ackermann function! (The prof gave bonus marks for supporting recursion.) |
| 2026-04-22 17:56:07 +0000 | ft | (~ft@p508db287.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ft |
| 2026-04-22 17:54:23 +0000 | <monochrom> | Yeah my thesis supervisor is like "termination is uninformative" because of that. |
| 2026-04-22 17:53:51 +0000 | <int-e> | monochrom: if it can implement the Ackermann function, is it really terminating ;) |
| 2026-04-22 17:52:49 +0000 | <monochrom> | (unless the talker actually advocates going all out for those two) |
| 2026-04-22 17:52:06 +0000 | <monochrom> | For now, IMO banning bottoms is just a lot of high-horse unpragmatic talk. |
| 2026-04-22 17:51:32 +0000 | <monochrom> | To be sure, I would be happy if someone found a third way much more ergonomic than those two. |
| 2026-04-22 17:50:50 +0000 | <monochrom> | (Belated) If one wants to ban bottoms, the only two currently widely deployed ways are System F (eg Dhall) and dependent type theory (eg Agda, Lean). |
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| 2026-04-22 16:45:57 +0000 | confusedalex_ | confusedalex |
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| 2026-04-22 16:40:45 +0000 | <gentauro> | EvanR: that sound like something Elon Musk would do … |
| 2026-04-22 16:38:26 +0000 | EvanR | (~EvanR@user/evanr) EvanR |
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| 2026-04-22 16:38:02 +0000 | vgtw | (~vgtw@user/vgtw) vgtw |
| 2026-04-22 16:35:18 +0000 | <EvanR> | has anyone ever heard of a FRP + cybernetics blog post or article or something |
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