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2026-02-26 03:53:24 +0100 <Clint> it's 9.6.6 with some patches, ftr
2026-02-26 03:49:08 +0100 <ethan1> if it becomes a huge problem
2026-02-26 03:48:44 +0100 <ethan1> i'll just run the ghcup install script when i can, then
2026-02-26 03:48:11 +0100 <ethan1> yeah debian lol
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2026-02-26 03:47:45 +0100 <geekosaur> maerwald: debian
2026-02-26 03:47:37 +0100 <geekosaur> it's probably okay but there are some bugs on some platforms: https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/9.6.7/docs/users_guide/9.6.7-notes.html#compiler and succeeding sections
2026-02-26 03:46:24 +0100 <haskellbridge> <maerwald> why do you have 9.6.6
2026-02-26 03:42:59 +0100ChaiTRex(~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex
2026-02-26 03:42:56 +0100 <ethan1> specifically, i've got 9.6.6
2026-02-26 03:42:25 +0100 <geekosaur> there is certainly no reason to run very recent versions unless you want to experiment; ghc moves quickly because it's' both a research compiler and a production compiler
2026-02-26 03:41:23 +0100 <geekosaur> in general you want the latest minor version of any ghc (with haskell version numbers, the major number is the first two components)
2026-02-26 03:40:46 +0100 <geekosaur> 9.6.7 is fine, older minor versions can be problematic
2026-02-26 03:39:06 +0100ChaiTRex(~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2026-02-26 03:38:15 +0100 <ethan1> how bad are the bugs?
2026-02-26 03:38:07 +0100 <ethan1> i have v9.6
2026-02-26 03:37:53 +0100 <geekosaur> and if your ghc is older than 9.4 it will also have potentially severe known bugs
2026-02-26 03:37:02 +0100 <geekosaur> (in particular cabal 3.10.3 is fairly old at this point and has known bugs)
2026-02-26 03:36:37 +0100 <geekosaur> ghcup gets you recommended versions of things
2026-02-26 03:36:36 +0100 <ethan1> geekosaur: that's fine then, i'll update if i need to
2026-02-26 03:36:22 +0100 <ethan1> and it turns out i don't have cabal, so i installed cabal 3.10.3
2026-02-26 03:36:11 +0100 <geekosaur> it'll work, it'll just get you older versions of things
2026-02-26 03:35:38 +0100 <ethan1> i was thinking i'd stick to that setup for most of it, and then i'd tweak it later if needed
2026-02-26 03:35:19 +0100 <ethan1> i want to get through the course and/or book
2026-02-26 03:35:04 +0100 <ethan1> things seem to work fine
2026-02-26 03:34:59 +0100 <ethan1> what i did was install debian's version of stack, and used that to install ghci
2026-02-26 03:34:41 +0100ChaiTRex(~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex
2026-02-26 03:32:05 +0100 <geekosaur> it's an installer, not a builder
2026-02-26 03:31:55 +0100 <geekosaur> ghcup installs both cabal and stack
2026-02-26 03:28:35 +0100 <haskellbridge> <maerwald> cabal should be enough
2026-02-26 03:28:10 +0100 <haskellbridge> <maerwald> good
2026-02-26 03:28:10 +0100 <ethan1> i could be wrong
2026-02-26 03:28:08 +0100 <ethan1> well i'm running v 9.6.6 so i think i've got modern cabal?
2026-02-26 03:27:49 +0100 <ethan1> i was looking at https://learnyouahaskell.github.io/introduction.html#about-this-tutorial and they recommend ghcup
2026-02-26 03:27:18 +0100 <geekosaur> that's not a problem, but modern cabal is much saner than very early versions 20ish years ago and you should probably learn it as well