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| 2025-12-26 16:55:59 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-12-26 16:50:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-12-26 16:35:09 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-26 16:34:24 +0100 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) Sgeo |
| 2025-12-26 16:31:28 +0100 | <[exa]> | yeah, it's ... unpleasantly rigorous |
| 2025-12-26 16:28:23 +0100 | wootehfoot | (~wootehfoo@user/wootehfoot) wootehfoot |
| 2025-12-26 16:23:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-12-26 16:21:54 +0100 | <Franciman> | hi ncf ! |
| 2025-12-26 16:20:07 +0100 | <Franciman> | they mention this phenomenon in the mailing list that is referred to in the stackoverflow thread |
| 2025-12-26 16:19:32 +0100 | <ncf> | (well, i think there's only one (lawful) monad instance you can write) |
| 2025-12-26 16:19:21 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-26 16:18:33 +0100 | <[exa]> | thanks :) |
| 2025-12-26 16:18:24 +0100 | <[exa]> | ok fair enough |
| 2025-12-26 16:18:20 +0100 | <[exa]> | Franciman ncf oh so it's mainly to force the instance into existence while aligning with how the applicative works |
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| 2025-12-26 15:18:21 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-12-26 15:05:37 +0100 | <ncf> | (i don't know why Complex needs a Monad instance, but here you go) |
| 2025-12-26 15:05:22 +0100 | spew | (~spew@user/spew) spew |
| 2025-12-26 15:05:02 +0100 | <ncf> | [exa]: it's the Pair monad, aka Reader Bool |
| 2025-12-26 15:02:32 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-26 15:00:43 +0100 | <Franciman> | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47181078/meaning-and-usage-of-complex-number-functor-and-monad |
| 2025-12-26 15:00:41 +0100 | <Franciman> | this is more interesting |
| 2025-12-26 15:00:16 +0100 | <Franciman> | here they say they don't like it, and it seems it's more for general pairing than actual complex structure |
| 2025-12-26 15:00:01 +0100 | <Franciman> | [exa]: https://vitez.me/complex-monad |
| 2025-12-26 14:57:46 +0100 | <Franciman> | ok one example is given theta, build e^{i*theta} = sin(theta) + i cos(theta) |
| 2025-12-26 14:56:36 +0100 | <Franciman> | given a real, you want to build a complex |
| 2025-12-26 14:56:08 +0100 | <Franciman> | what example has type x -> Complex x ? |
| 2025-12-26 14:55:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-12-26 14:55:06 +0100 | <Franciman> | f :: x -> Complex x, but you only extract real part |
| 2025-12-26 14:52:17 +0100 | <Franciman> | ah no |
| 2025-12-26 14:51:46 +0100 | <Franciman> | seems like monad for (a, a) |